2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumFirst on CNN: Clinton meets with Trayvon Martin's family
Chicago (CNN)Hillary Clinton met Monday with a collection of parents whose African-American children have died in shootings at a local Chicago cafe, discussing their loss and outlining her criminal justice reform and gun control plans.
The gathering included members of Trayvon Martin's family and Jordan Davis' family, as well as the mothers of Michael Brown and Tamir Rice.
Martin was the 17-year old who was killed in 2012 by former neighborhood watch captain George Zimmerman. Zimmerman's acquittal sparked protests across the country. Davis was a 17-year-old African-American high school student killed in a 2014 shooting that started with a complaint about loud music. Brown was the 18-year-old African-American killed in 2014 by a white police officer in Ferguson, Missouri. And Rice was the 12-year-old African-American killed by police in Cleveland, Ohio.
Also in attendance was Maria Hamilton, the mother of Dontre Hamilton, a mentally ill man who died after being shot more than a dozen times in Milwaukee in 2014.
http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/02/politics/hillary-clinton-trayvon-martin-chicago/index.html
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)I know some folks love to play in the gutter but Mama and Papa DSB warned me against playing there.
Thank you in advance.
m-lekktor
(3,675 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Please don't project your character onto me.
Thank you in advance.
enough
(13,262 posts)I think it's wonderful that HRC is meeting with these parents. I hope she continues to do it, and I think it will have a positive effect. But "not politicize?" You have to be kidding. Why do you think this is happening now?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Because with the rash of blacks being killed by the police and misguided vigilantes the issue is coming to the fore.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)To the "my guy met with Sandra Bland's family" folks ... is there a difference between being in the same restaurant and being approached by Bland's aunt and introduced to Bland's mother, the same as this forum?
840high
(17,196 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)I am sad but not surprised that some people turned this into a partisan exercise.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)The real question is, how come YOU don't know about it?
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Bernie tweeted about it. Or retweeted, can't remember which, it was a month ago.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)nt
Autumn
(45,120 posts)Nice try though.
http://www.bustle.com/articles/117535-sandra-blands-mother-says-its-what-bernie-sanders-didnt-do-after-they-met-that-earned-her
He did not impose upon Ms. Geneva to ask for a picture of his own. He did not use the moment as an opportunity to promote his campaign. He took no record, he made no statement. He did not try to turn it into a publicity stunt. He simply made space for a sacred moment, and then let it pass without trying to gain anything from it. For that, I respect him. For that, I am grateful. That choice may not have made him a very good politician, but it made him a better man.
Not only did Sanders make no mention of this meeting in the public sphere, but he also used one of the biggest national platforms to finally answer the demand he and Martin O'Malley received months ago at Netroots Nation: He said Bland's name, and in doing so humanized a movement in which he is still working to find his footing. As DeRay Mckesson wrote following his meetings with Sanders and fellow Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton, Sanders certainly does have a lot of work ahead of him, but he has a "strong initial platform" that reflects his genuine anger about the broken criminal justice system. And, as Colin McEnroe wrote for Salon following the debate, it is perhaps this anger that reflects Sanders' authenticity and makes him appeal to voters.
840high
(17,196 posts)Response to JaneyVee (Reply #5)
jfern This message was self-deleted by its author.
Autumn
(45,120 posts)but he did say her name at the debate. I wonder what would have been said had Bernie notified the media. Nah no need to wonder.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)And it shows she's worried about losing the AA vote.
JaneyVee
(19,877 posts)Needs more Cornel West!
NanceGreggs
(27,817 posts)BS's poll numbers have soared since associating with West - haven't you noticed?
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)eom
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)She likely ends this race in New Hampshire...Don't fret, the idependent senator from Vermont likely has a successful college and book tour ahead of him...
BTW, I lived about three miles from where Trayvon was murdered and knew some of the actors. It is beyond shameful that you and some of your associates are trying to make political hay out of it.
-Matthew 17:6
riversedge
(70,275 posts)leave it at that please.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)When has it ever happened? I should post an op asking.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)Read the transcript yourself: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2015/10/13/the-oct-13-democratic-debate-who-said-what-and-what-it-means/
Cha
(297,503 posts)Different question."
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Different question.
berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)in the campaign: She said ALL LIVES MATTER. Which if you knew anything about the issue, you'd know that was completely racially insensitive.
http://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/06/24/417112956/hillary-clintons-three-word-gaffe-all-lives-matter
bravenak
(34,648 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)linguistic twister can make it otherwise.
She was asked no different question and gave no answer that included those words. Period. Clinton is pandering for the black vote because now she feels like she could lose it. And she will.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)berni_mccoy
(23,018 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Go look on twitchy. They was mad she got a different question.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)"Black lives matter" during the debate.
God she sucks.
Give up on this on, they clearly have an agenda.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)obstinate, repetitive claim.. that "she didn't say it".
riversedge
(70,275 posts)stupid trying to get a poster to say something that never existed.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)You are at bat, either hit the home run and take it all the way... Or strikeout.
You pick.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Agschmid
(28,749 posts)None of our candidates are racist or sexist or homophobic... Anyone making another implication IMO is out of line.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)eom
riversedge
(70,275 posts)claim is stupid and nonsense.
Wotas
(26 posts)retrowire
(10,345 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)yeoman6987
(14,449 posts)It is amazing the good she does. I am honored to know she is the next president of the United States of America. We are such a fortunate country.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)He was an evil man who murdered his own citizens. There are stories so horrific they are unbearable. I wonder, if you have every said something similar regarding a very evil person? If you say no, I will not believe you. You are being dishonest here using this statement against her.
I have had similar beliefs about Hitler, Malcovich, Ted Bundy, child rapists...
I am surprised by people who are not interested in the issues, but rather personal attacks that are virtually created by twisting yourself into a pretzel and giving away any self respect to create them.
delrem
(9,688 posts)Don't tell me that the PNAC wars are for compassionate reasons.
When the war and economic policies are identical I prefer the honesty of Republicans to Democratic lies.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)"Early one morning, we were taken to a closed hall," one former member recalled. "We were to witness the murder of 17 students. We were not allowed to scream. We were made to cheer and shout. To act as though we were delighted by this display. Inside I was crying. They shot them all, one by one."
"The women would first be raped by the dictator then passed on, like used objects, to one of his sons and eventually to high-ranking officials for more abuse," said Benghazi-based psychologist Seham Sergewa, who interviewed victims for the International Criminal Court.
Boys were also forced to serve in Gadhafi's harem. "He was terribly sexually deviant," recalled former chief of protocol Nuri Al Mismari. "Young boys and so on. He had his own boys. They used to be called the 'services group'."
read more: http://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/1.570727
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)I missed it, and I would gladly Rec it.
Response to jfern (Reply #2)
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ronnykmarshall
(35,356 posts)gwheezie
(3,580 posts)And see what was done.
randys1
(16,286 posts)as witnessed here at DU.
Brought kicking and screaming to the realization that racism is rampant, that institutional racism still provides for white privilege etc
bravenak
(34,648 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)The reptilian brain is sadly on full display in this thread.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)eom
bravenak
(34,648 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)eom
bravenak
(34,648 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Maybe they don't care any more...
All I can say is I am privileged to have friends like you, Number 23, 1SBM, and GenXer... It looks like we were meant to become friends...
If it weren't for y'all I don't know if I would continue posting.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)This influx of independent voters will be gone by March and then we can be comfortable agin.
lunamagica
(9,967 posts)riversedge
(70,275 posts)Rose Siding
(32,623 posts)It was good of them to meet with her. Trayvon's mother said, "It was a very powerful meeting, it was powerful"
Hillary just tweeted:
Grateful to spend time today with mothers who have lost a child to violence and turned their grief into a national call to action. -H
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/661333253115236352
riversedge
(70,275 posts)Hillary Clinton ?@HillaryClinton 2h2 hours ago
Grateful to spend time today with mothers who have lost a child to violence and turned their grief into a national call to action. -H
wendylaroux
(2,925 posts)that is remarkable!!
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)wendylaroux
she did
that is remarkable !!
Sad that you think giving succor to the families of murder victims is a time for sarcasm, that is remarkable, too!!
mcar
(42,368 posts)GummyBearz
(2,931 posts).
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)GummyBearz
(2,931 posts)I know it wasn't nice... I'm trying to work on that.
brooklynite
(94,686 posts)Now that she's moved into traditional campaigning (as she announced her plan would be) she regularly holds public forums around the country. I've posted a number here. I could also point you to where you can find her schedule. You could also go the events page at HILLARYCLINTON.COM.
But then, what would you have to complain about?
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)People trying to shit on this thread should do some self examination.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Starry Messenger
(32,342 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Their son was hunted down in the streets by a man with a license to kill blacks. They have the ear of the damn near unchallenged front runner of the only party that really gives a shit, and it's bad? His life, and death, will continue to influence us if we are who we claim to be. His death has given many the strength in will to take their activism to the next level.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)Sadly, many of the denizens of this board are in the Anger stage. I want to be here for them as they work through all the Stages and end up at Acceptance, but it is not going to be without difficulty.
Cha
(297,503 posts)Mahalo DSB
MineralMan
(146,324 posts)It's time for leaders to take this seriously, all politics aside. I see nothing here to criticize, and do not understand the criticism. Have we sunk so low that we forget? If so, shame on us. Thanks, Hillary. Good job.
Initech
(100,097 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)-Luke 12:3
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Township75
(3,535 posts)And people like George are in for a surprise when the safety they have enjoyed is gone when a new sheriff comes to town.
DrBulldog
(841 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)MrWendel
(1,881 posts)Your poll driven desperation is showing.
riversedge
(70,275 posts)Cha
(297,503 posts)his parents get the comfort of talking about it to Hillary.. and all BS' fans can think of is poor Bernie.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)I can't believe I could have been walking around in Target and Zimmerman could have been in there strapped.
bravenak
(34,648 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)He was very, very....intense...
But even he changed his opinion on Zimmerman...
bravenak
(34,648 posts)I watched him on Nanct Grace. He was oily.
Cha
(297,503 posts)bravenak
(34,648 posts)Dude does not fart sunbeams! Jesus.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,711 posts)EOM
bravenak
(34,648 posts)Walk away
(9,494 posts)the African American community and risk alienating his republican leaning supporters. He needs every vote he can get and his supporters are proud that he has support from them.
It's understandable that he wants to keep his head down on this issue. It's commendable that Hillary is willing to publically support the African American Community in front of the entire country.