I am voting for Bernie solely because he is a man.

[ybbor]

An old, white man at that! Does that make me sexist?

This whole comment is sarcasm including the title!

I didn't think I needed to state that, but it seems everyone is a literalist here.

I would knock on doors for Sen. Warren if she were running!

I don't give a damn about a candidate's gender! It is their platforms I vote for.

Just wanted to post a thread to counter the at least three, two by the same person, regarding Hillary garnering support solely because of her gender.

Happy Sunday!

This place is becoming a bad joke.

[luvspeas]

1. That's fine and dandy...

You can do whatever you want to do...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

2. If you remove old it could have been a Romney ad.

eom

[daleanime]

5. Bernie builds car elevator...

because he's just like Mitt.


Thanks I needed that, I has in danger of the TBBDOTB seriously. Hope it hasn't ruined your lovely day.

[daleanime]

7. True Blue Blood Democratic Opposition To Bernie.....

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. True Blue Blood?

True Blue Blood? Do they have blue bloods in Belarus and southern Italy?

My dad quit school in the ninth grade, moved out his parent's sixth floor walk up apartment to become a stevedore. My mom was in Rapid Advance, graduated from high school at fifteen years old, got a job as a book keeper to support her widowed mom and brother.

My dad died when I was fourteen and left my mom and I with a seven square foot shot gun shack and a lot of debt.


I was almost rich once but lost everything in the Great Recession. Now, money would just be another encumbrance. When you ain't got nothing, you got nothing to lose.

[SusanCalvin]

51. .

http://m.

[djean111]

3. That's cool. If, however, you exhorted other men to vote for Bernie because Bernie is a man,

and only a man can understand the problems that men face, or said that not voting for Bernie is merely sexism against old white men, then there is pushback.

[ybbor]

8. True

And I love your comments in all those other threads! You have so much patience, I could only lurk reading the circles of "logic" going on in them.

[djean111]

31. Thanks. But I fear logic is actually unwanted. In fact, I know that! n/t

[dsc]

4. 46 female Senators in the history of the Republic

20 of those still serving, 34 still alive, and people are around who were alive when the first one was seated but yeah just the same.

[Ed Suspicious]

9. In what way is that relevant to the choice of who we place in the Whitehouse as a result of

this election?

[dsc]

10. For me, and many others, the symbolism would matter

I also think that women can bring both different points of view and different skills to the table. I notice you have no problem whatsoever with the OP voting for Bernie due to being a man, only my post.

[Ed Suspicious]

11. I thought the other post was a sarcastic jab at the idea of voting for a president based on their

gender. I did not take it seriously in any way.

[ybbor]

13. It was/is

Thank you for getting sarcasm!

[ybbor]

12. The OP was a joke!

It is so far from how I feel. I actually edited to make it more clear that I was joking after your comment.

I am voting for Bernie because Sen. Warren isn't running. I would vote for her but it would have nothing to do with her gender. Gender should not play any role in a choice for a position for anything.

I am sorry you did not understand my sarcasm.

[artislife]

16. My 2 female senators have lost me

And I voted for them every time. They voted for the TPP. Enough of this bs. Man or woman, you must be on the side of the planet and all her inhabitants.

[yuiyoshida]

29. I'm with you

[LiberalArkie]

27. Only if they are secure with who they are. There have been a lot of leaders who knew

that doing something was wrong but they felt like they had to prove that they were not wimps. I think that applies to just about every president we have had since Jimmy Carter.

[SusanCalvin]

28. What a great observation.

Probably because they took the wrong lesson from Carter's loss. It wasn't because he told the unpalatable truth, it was because Reagan stole the election.

[LiberalArkie]

32. I have worked for just a couple of women who were very secure in who they were and had a

great time. But I have worked for quite a few (who I believe were not) who treated everyone like they were a child and had to bossed around all the time. My guess is they thought they had to be more than what they though a man was. (Whatever in the hell that means). ;>


Touchy subject -- - Please don't ban me

[SusanCalvin]

33. Me ban you? And it would matter in the big scheme of things anyway?

You give me too much credit.

Oh, I know EXACTLY what kind of boss you are talking about. Male or female. Got one right now.

Gotta tell you my Mom's terms for "doesn't matter in the big scheme of things" -

No one will know in a hundred years.

No one will notice on a galloping horse.

I have to tell myself that a lot right now......

[LiberalArkie]

35. And I love your avatar, she or Anne Richards are the 2 I would have loved to

the first woman president. How much fun would that have been?

[SusanCalvin]

37. Oh myyyyyyyy!

They would have cleaned house!

[LiberalArkie]

38. And the nightly news would have been so much fun.

[ColesCountyDem]

46. Interesting username.

[jfern]

50. The first female Senator was a white suprematcist and the last Senator who had owned slaves

[sadoldgirl]

14. Of course, that makes you sexist!

I want a disabled transexual native American Veteran
to run! I hope that includes gender, minority and
military.(sarc)

Well, I have to do yard work now, if you call that
happy. "Bad joke" is a good understatement!

[ybbor]

19. I'd vote for them(? Not sure of the pronoun to use)

I am going out to rake leaves and get the yard ready for the winter myself. It is at least beautiful out here!

[Evergreen Emerald]

15. That certainly has been the past critera for consideration. Affirmative action

has attempted to address one of the issues. We have attempted to change that for generations...and still the amount of women in Congress is minimal. Old, White, Male has been the standard. It is time to change it.

Clinton has a unique perspective as a woman and as a progressive democrat, a lawyer, and mother, a grandmother, and a fighter.

Her gender is a plus for me.

[artislife]

17. uh...

Clinton has a unique perspective as a woman and as a progressive democrat, a lawyer, and mother, a grandmother, and a fighter.

Progressive= no-Centrist
Democrat= technically yes
lawyer= whoop dee do
mother/grandmother= as a childless woman I am not for elevating a woman solely on the fact that she got knocked up and kept the child
fighter= the best adjective to so many supporters. But what has she fought? Middle East peope, Honderan, North African and republicans.
Heavily armed for all but the republican she was fighting against her own missteps and their taking advantage of it.

So ---she isn't that impressive to me.

[Evergreen Emerald]

20. Nice pleasant conversation, rather than snark.

oh wait.

[artislife]

21. I wasn't being snarky, I was being truthful. nt

[Evergreen Emerald]

23. Ok

"Progressive= no-Centrist" -- Actually, no one is all one side (look at Sanders and gun control). Clinton is progressive and has fought hard for progressive issues her whole life. I agree that some of her positions are centrist. And, so are mine.

"Democrat= technically yes"--she is a Democrat. If you are attempting (but not in a snarky way) to suggest that she is Republican, than you need to bone up on the differences. Your ideas are dangerous for the country. And...she is much more of a Democrat than Sanders...just ask the Democratic party.

"lawyer= whoop dee do" (not snark?) She was one of the few women in law school at that time, and has been breaking barriers ever since. Her contributions as a lawyer are unmatched.

"mother/grandmother= as a childless woman I am not for elevating a woman solely on the fact that she got knocked up and kept the child." That is an ugly statement. However, ignoring that for a moment: because she is a mother, she has a unique perspective that many white, old, males do not have...that are relevant today. She worked her ass off to protect children and provide them with health care and early learning. She understands the needs of working mothers.

"fighter= the best adjective to so many supporters. But what has she fought? Middle East peope, Honderan, North African and republicans.
Heavily armed for all but the republican she was fighting against her own missteps and their taking advantage of it." If you do not know what she has been fighting for, you have not been paying attention. It is as if you have made up your mind to de-humanize her and therefore nothing can penetrate that wall. "Misteps" the republican party, flanked by the media have attacked her for decades. She has come out, tattered at times, but always picks herself off to fight again. I believe that much of the de-humanization of her is from those who grew up observing the constant attacks, and they just became part of the lexicon.

[ybbor]

18. So you are admitting that her gender is a major factor for your vote?

I will not be voting for her for the same reasons I wouldn't vote for Jim Webb or Lincoln Chaffee. I would vote for Martin O'Malley over the former SOS because I do not believe she is progressive, nor does she call herself one anymore.

The fact that she is female has nothing to do with my choice in the same way the reason I am voting for Bernie is based on his platform, not his gender.

[Evergreen Emerald]

25. You are entitled to your opinion

In my opinion, O'Malley does not have nearly the qualifications or experience that Clinton has. He is second best. And, it appears that he is forgiven for many of the same stances, that some on DU denigrate Hillary for. Are men treated differently for prior actions?

And, for some reason, I can't put my finger on why, but he creeps me out.

[eridani]

48. Was that why she voted for the Iraq war?

The chaos in the Middle East has been really shitty for the women there.

[boston bean]

22. We've only had that choice since the inception of this country. nt

[NurseJackie]

24. He makes me feel uncomfortable.

Ill-fitting suits. Stiff and forced smile. Finger-wagging angry demeanor. Frumpy shirt. Unkempt hair. Stooped and slouched. Shuffle walking. Nothing about him seems natural, relaxed or genuine. World leaders will see him as a grumpy old coot and would be ridiculed and not taken seriously.

Ugh!

[SusanCalvin]

30. I loves me some grumpy old coots!

When I grow up, I want to be a grumpy old coot. Oh, wait - I think I may have achieved my ambition.

[VanillaRhapsody]

26. Plenty of Republicans feel the same way

They would elect him over her for that very reason....

[MisterP]

34. this would have more of a point if there weren't Clinton supporters running around saying

they don't care WHAT policies she'll push, she has salpinges

[riversedge]

39. You are making up things.

[SusanCalvin]

42. I literally do not remember

The last time I learned a new vocabulary word!

Interesting how it applies to both fallopian tubes and ear canals.

Oops, not the part you hear with, the part you sometimes have to pop.

Oh Lord, that didn't sound good. The eustachian tubes. What you chew gum for on airplanes.

[MisterP]

45. and here I thought people chewed gum on planes for 5 hours to get my BP past 180!

[SoapBox]

36. Yup!

"I don't give a damn about a candidate's gender! It is their platforms I vote for."

I fully agree.

[SusanCalvin]

41. Provided you have confidence they will stand on their platforms. nt

[Todays_Illusion]

49. lol, thanks I just have to add that if he transgenders, I would still vote for him. /s

[treestar]

52. Only the Democrats would run a woman or minority for POTUS

so it never really comes up to the test.

Democrats wouldn't vote on that basis, that's up to Republicans. Which is why Fiorina and Carson can run, but they will never win. Republicans are the only ones who would vote for another based on that, but they will make sure their nominee is a white man in the end.

[lovemydog]

53. LOL!

+1 for a good sense of humor.