When the DLC shut down, it sold its records and archives to the Clinton Foundation.

[madfloridian]

I had heard that from someone before, but I had always assumed the Third Way took their place. Here's more about it. From Politico 2011.

DLC records to Clinton Foundation

The remnants of the once-powerful Democratic Leadership Council, which closed its doors earlier this year after a period of ideological and organizational decline, are being absorbed into the Clinton Foundation, founder Al From said in an email.

From wrote this morning:

"Because many of these materials show and explain the growth and development of President Clinton's policies, passions and legacy, the William J. Clinton Foundation has purchased all of the records and materials of the DLC. The Clinton Presidential Center is an important location for telling the story not just of the Clinton administration but also of the world at the latter part of the 20th century. We believe these records are an important part of that history, and believe the Clinton Foundation is an appropriate and fitting repository.

.....The New Democrat model is as powerful today as ever. Statehouses, state legislatures, and local governments across America are led by a new generation of leaders whose political philosophies were shaped by President Clinton and the DLC. We are thankful these documents and ideas will live on, and the new generation of leaders can learn from the politics that President Clinton and the DLC forged.

Al From

I really don't know the implications, but the feeling I get is that one or the other of those think tanks think or appear to think they are in control of the party and its message.

Thinking about down-ticket races is another matter. We have lost the House and the Senate, and the GOP has worked hard to win races all the way down the line.

I started thinking about these two groups today because the Third Way, which some say took the place of the DLC has issued a warning to Hillary and party members not to fall for the populism being preached by Bernie Sanders.

Centrist Democrats, including Delaware Gov. Jack Markell, are warning fellow party members that the economic populism championed by the left wing risks “political perils,” and they’re offering an alternative.

...The report rejects progressives’ theory that the primary culprit is a system that favors the wealthy. Instead, it blames changes related to globalization and technology and the country’s lack of preparedness for a new economy.

It also rejects policies offered by Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., that would expand Social Security benefits and create a single-payer health care system, saying his policies would “divert money away from job-creating public investments – such as cancer research, bridge repair, and school construction.”

They should be careful criticizing about bridge repair and school construction. Not much has been done to bridges in need of repair, and this administration has allowed the education secretary to spend almost 4 billion with no accountability.

This kind of warning from the think tanks toward party members is not unusual at all. They sharply criticized Al Gore when he took a populist turn. They warned Bill Clinton to toe their line.

The DLC's blunt warning was delivered in November in response to the Democrats' midterm election debacle, which shrank the party's congressional membership and shook whatever remaining confidence they had in Clinton's political viability. The DLC's criticism followed some bitter remarks by its chairman, Rep. Dave McCurdy of Oklahoma, who, after losing his Senate bid, complained that his defeat was due to "a visceral anti-Clintonism" among the voters.

..."I think for President Clinton there is a pretty blunt message in this poll," DLC President Al From told reporters this week. "It's `Get with the program or you'll have to pay the consequences.'"

Will Marshall, who heads the group's Progressive Policy Institute, said the poll showed that swing voters who helped elect Clinton were sending the president and the Democrats this message: "We are disappointed in what you've done, but we haven't given up on you. You have one last chance. You govern as a New Democrat, unequivocally as a New Democrat, and you can win us back, and you can win back the vital center of the electorate. But if you don't, you're in big trouble."

They even had some words for President Obama.

Bill Clinton's win in 1992 ushered in a generation of modern, more moderate New Democrats. And when Clinton left office, several of his former staffers started up Third Way to discourage the party from reverting to its leftward ways. During the Obama era, the group issued similar warnings about the rise of Democratic populism and played consequential policy roles -- most memorably encouraging lawmakers to abandon the pursuit of a public option during the crafting of health care reform in 2010.

On the eve of a post-Obama America, Third Way's role appears more defensive or, at least, complicated by the few candidates running for the White House. Far from cheerleading Hillary Clinton's presidential candidacy, it warned her not to mimic her nearest competitor.

"They are really going to beat her up to move further and further and further (to the left) because they assume she is going to get it and they want their piece of flesh," said Daley.

The attack on Sanders, meanwhile, was one of the more overtly aggressive yet to come from within Democratic ranks.

They did not even bother to warn Howard Dean. They simply called a press conference to announce that he would not be president.

More than 50 centrist Democrats, including Virginia Gov. Mark R. Warner, met here yesterday to plot strategy for the "New Democrat" movement. To help get the ball rolling they read a memo by Al From and Bruce Reed, the chairman and president of the Democratic Leadership Council.

The memo dismissed Dean as an elitist liberal from the "McGovern-Mondale wing" of the party -- "the wing that lost 49 states in two elections, and transformed Democrats from a strong national party into a much weaker regional one."

...."We are increasingly confident that President Bush can be beaten next year, but Dean is not the man to do it," Reed and From wrote. "Most Democrats aren't elitists who think they know better than everyone else."

The DLC and now the Third Way have always preached compromise and bi-partisanship. They have even used the words "Post-Partisanship" which implies a one-party system.

From the Third Way, 2013.

Democratic base wants compromise

The New Democrat Coalition and Third Way believe we should heed the advice from Bob, Evelyn and so many moderate voters like them and use the 113th Congress to address our nation’s problems with pragmatism, balance and a willingness to compromise to get things done. That means getting our fiscal house in order by increasing revenue, but also ensuring that crucial programs like Social Security and Medicare are on a path that is affordable and sustainable for the long term. It means increasing our country’s exports, especially in Asia, where the greatest opportunity lies to sell American products, while ensuring that we protect the U.S. workers who are affected by new trade markets. It means investing in education but also making sure we’re demanding reforms in our schools to better prepare our students for the competitive 21st-century global economy. It means moving toward a clean energy economy so that we can win the energy race and dominate the $2.3 trillion clean energy market in the future. And it means dealing with our broken immigration system and updating it to bring in skilled people who can help create growth for the U.S. economy.

No, actually many are tired of compromising with people who won't compromise. It gives them a win, and we get nothing.

There are many new people of all ages supporting Bernie Sanders, though college age is a big factor. They are no longer fooled by the talking points and political talk, and they want something more.

The warnings have grown annoying. They really shouldn't own our party. Think tanks should have minimal influence.

But money talks, and big money talks even louder.

[Uncle Joe]

1. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, madfloridian.

[madfloridian]

3. You are welcome.

It's a little confusing to me who's the boss now.

[Uncle Joe]

5. This guy

[madfloridian]

6. lol

[Uncle Joe]

8. Seriously though, your OP does give me more pause to wonder

whether something could come from Joe Biden's meeting with Bernie, as Joe won't be running for elective office anymore and theoretically wouldn't be under the same pressures and if Joe in his heart of hearts is an average guy..who knows?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251743370

I guess time will tell.

[zeemike]

21. More likely than not...

Joe is meeting with Bernie to give him "he talk"..you know like Hillary met wit Warren.

But that is just my cynical mind at work...I have lost trust in many of them.

[Fawke Em]

56. I don't think Bernie would give a shit. eom

[bvar22]

82. Joe is an aerage guy IF

average guys are in the back pocket of the Credit Card Industry.

[bvar22]

83. Joe is an aerage guy IF

average guys are in the back pocket of the Credit Card Industry.

[ibegurpard]

2. I believe the Third Way "warnings"

Are simply noise created by the conservatives to make it seem like they are unhappy with Hillary and thus make her more palatable to the unruly "left." It's a basic political tactic that is pretty obvious.

[JimDandy]

10. Actually they are admonishing Hillary for calling herself a Progressive

Even Clinton's own think tank finds that label absurd on her.

That's my take and I'm spreading it around!

[rhett o rick]

85. Don't they know that her "progressiveness" is only campaign rhetoric. She is taking a lesson

from BO. Run as a progressive and rule as a conservative like your backers insist.

[Art_from_Ark]

11. Yeah, just like those goofy Benghazi hearings

that were led by a 4th string quarterback on the Republican scrimmage team.

[JimDandy]

18. Umm...

The Third Way think tank was started by Clinton staffers.

[Art_from_Ark]

22. And...?

Third Way-- conservative
Goofy Benghazi committee members-- conservative nitwits put in charge of a farcical investigation, even after it was exposed as farcical by one of their own.

The conservatives on either side wouldn't mind Hillary, because she's acceptable for matters that really concern them (economic, military). But Bernie really threatens to upset their apple carts.

[merrily]

30. They're all third way-ish. Progressive Policy Institute, Third Way, New Democrat Network, Center for

American Progress, No Labels. We have center right and right think tanks. Guess which viewpoint is unrepresented?

[JimDandy]

33. Well, bonafide progressive leftists

are not gonna need to think that one through.

[Bubzer]

75. lol

See what you did there.

[sabrina 1]

35. Actually it's just a DC insider spat between various Think Tanks, all vying for control of our party

The recent shift by Hillary to appear more progressive would definitely bother these morons from the Third Way. They HATE the 'left', they despise Elizabeth Warren and attempted to take her down in an Op Ed in the WSJ a few months ago. The backlash they got was so intense, they haven't been heard from since on the subject, at least publicly.

That these idiots think they are appointed to the role of RUNNING this country to the point where they felt they had the right to 'warn' Elizabeth Warren about 'all this populism' shows how deeply they despise our Democratic system and how they believe THEY know better than anyone else.

They have been WRONG about just everything, see their garbage about Dean. We lost didn't we, without Dean, brillian strategy morons.

Wrong about who should run for Congress, see the last two Mid Terms, they LOST us the House and Senate.

They remind me of the most obnoxious, ignorant, RICH, kids in school who in their own minds believe they are above everyone else.

The exposure of the Third Way over the past few years, explained EVERYTHING about what had gone so wrong in our party.

Re Hillary, all they were doing was trying to 'advise' their chosen candidate that moving to the Left, as she has been trying to do even if she doesn't mean it, that she should NOT.

So today we learn she comes out strongly for the Death Penalty. So I guess she did as they told her.

THIS is the problem with our party. They belong in the other party, not this one. And the sooner we build a political revolution big enough to overcome these Think Tanks and infiltrators into our party the better for this country.

[ibegurpard]

60. I agree with you about Third Way

But I dont think they are worried about Hillary at all. They know we hate them and they think that a little public dissatisfaction with her on their part may give her some legitimacy to those of us who despise where they have taken our party.

[Dustlawyer]

81. Control over OUR Party was lost to corporations in the Clinton administration.

The U.S. Chamber of Commerce realized way before that state and local races gave more bang for the buck than POTUS CAMPAIGNS. The corporations realized they could buy both Party's and control our options on who we have to vote on for candidates.

The sooner we can attack the root problem and enact Publicly Funded Elections, the sooner we can break their control. Then we can go back to real Party's controlled by the People!

[99th_Monkey]

4. K&R nt

[haikugal]

7. K&R!

Thanks madfloridian!

[WillyT]

9. HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!!

[zentrum]

12. Depressing n/t

[madfloridian]

23. Isn't it though.

They really do think we are too stupid to figure it all out.

[cprise]

34. Spinning their own policies, in fact, as progressive failure in 2014 midterms:

As Jonathan Cowan, Third Way's president, noted, Democrats hold the fewest offices in Congress, statehouses and governors' mansions since 1928.

The factors behind this, however, are deeply disputed.

In its presentation, Third Way argued that a focus on issues like a $15 minimum wage, expanding Social Security benefits and advocating for single-payer health care all create the political dynamics that make Democrats electorally vulnerable. But few Democrats have made their campaigns squarely about these three issues in past races. During the disastrous 2014 midterm elections, a number of senators called for expanding Social Security benefits. But talk of single-payer health care was nonexistent outside highly progressive (and largely dismissed) quarters. And the debate at the time was about raising the minimum wage to $10.10 an hour, not $15. Third Way itself calls for a wage floor of $10-$12, based on average hourly wages and regional cost variations.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/third-way-presidential-campaign_563237f2e4b0c66bae5b4066


The level of self-delusion (or just plain dishonesty) there is simply incredible.

[zentrum]

65. Spawn of

…….Crony Capitalism. They speak for, see through the lens of, and serve only their tribe of 1%ers. It's self-sealed and really deadly for democracy.

[blackspade]

71. No kidding.

Their policies are the things that keep the Democratic Party from crushing the GOP.
It's not an accident.

[DemocracyDirect]

102. The real powers play both sides.

Neuter the Democratic Party or let the Republicans take it.

Win win for them.

[sabrina 1]

37. They actually DO think that. They think anyone who doesn't agree with their failed policies

is stupid. They are the worst of the worst, self appointed morons, who lost us the House and Senate but then had the gall to blame the voters.

The voters as you say, have had enough and see right through them. They are in the way of progress for this country. They are regressive Conservatives, who have at least have been forced out of the shadows and into the light, which is a start. We know know what the goals have to be, starting with them.

[zentrum]

64. Well Said!

[Cleita]

67. I have to remember to use that the next time I'm told I have to vote

for Hillary because no one else can win. I need to reply to them that the corporate Democrats lost the Senate and the House so what makes them think they can ignore us hippie liberals and our candidates?

[Doctor_J]

13. from still believed in 2011 that the turd way was a success?

Jesus Christ, look what happened to the party since they took over.

[Bread and Circus]

14. I still dont know why Dean went to the Clinton camp.

[jfern]

15. There is a war being waged for the soul of the party

The cowards line up with the establishment DLC/Third Way/ Clinton wing. The brave side with Bernie or maybe O'Malley.

[madfloridian]

20. Been going on for years.

[sabrina 1]

38. Very well said. We have more cowards that we realized. This is going to be a very revealing

year. At least we will know who we must replace in our party.

[bkkyosemite]

16. Raise the cap on SS and it's solvent

and the supporters of Hillary after reading this OP....I just dunno.

[Historic NY]

17. So in other words they can be examined at the Presidential Library

which is run by the National Archives.

[madfloridian]

19. Is the library the very same as the Clinton Foundation?

I thought they were different.

[Historic NY]

27. Your OP its in it...

Clinton Presidential Center.

[madfloridian]

74. You're right. Maybe we can find all the nasty articles they wrote about anti-war Democrats..

and how most of us were just fringe Democrats. I missed the connection there, so thanks.

Every time I want to look for a saved bookmark, I find it missing. Their whole website disappeared, though I have found a few archived here and there.

[senz]

24. There's an antisemitic quote in the OP

This, presumably by a Third Way operative named Daley (not further identified in the OP), warning of efforts by the Sanders campaign to move Hillary to the left:

On the eve of a post-Obama America, Third Way's role appears more defensive or, at least, complicated by the few candidates running for the White House. Far from cheerleading Hillary Clinton's presidential candidacy, it warned her not to mimic her nearest competitor.

"They are really going to beat her up to move further and further and further (to the left) because they assume she is going to get it and they want their piece of flesh," said Daley.

He uses the phrase "piece of flesh," but the only sense that phrase can make is in reference to Shylock's "pound of flesh," Shylock being a Jewish character in what many believe to be Shakespeare's antisemitic play, The Merchant of Venice.

The quote is highly cynical, assuming anyone is going to "beat her up" to move her and then using language that implies the villain is Jewish. Bernie is Jewish.

What filth these people are.

[sabrina 1]

39. And it's a very stupid statement, since Hillary will never move to the left except verbally. I'm

surprised they don't know that already. After all, she and they are very close allies. They are either conniving and hoping that if we think she is moving to the Left it will help her win the nomination, or they are so insecure they can't be sure that Bernie's incredible powers of persuasion might actually convert her.

[stillwaiting]

48. Or, they are power brokers and they were speaking to ALL Democratic politicians.

And, those Democratic politicians had best know their place if you know what I'm saying.

These elite think tanks have access to huge financial resources. They send out warnings that elected officials are intended to receive AND OBEY I have no doubt. In our system, that may yield some fruit for Third Way wishes. Fall in line Democratic politicians. Fall in line.

[Marty McGraw]

87. They've even made

some simple nifty placards that can easily manipulate what they need to be said



& More Here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/110724159

[ieoeja]

59. They are afraid that her move to the Left will make her unelectable in the general.

They know she would embrace rightwing economic policies and moderate social justice policies if elected. They are only worried about the election.

[George II]

25. And?

[tex-wyo-dem]

41. And what?

The OP (and others I've read today) basically spell it out...the Clintons have heavily ties to the DLC/Third Way think tank that wields a lot of power in the party. They are warning Hillary to not go too far down the Progressive path. In other words, Hillary's sudden come to Progressive enlightenment, basically mimicking everything Bernie stands for, is nothing more than an act.

But already knew that.

She's as fake as a $3 bill.

[Bubzer]

77. And... its more evidence that hillary is carrying water for corporations

[SandersDem]

26. I believe

that we are on the path to more than two major political parties in the US as both party's seem to have ideological splits. I believe my children will see an election where a President is elected with just 34% of the vote.

I believe they might be called, The Progressive Democracy Party, The Third Way (They will probably just call themselves The Democratic Party), Republican Party and the Freedom Party. In all honesty, at this point I would like to see this happen and I know which of these possible parties, I would belong to.

[Sunlei]

28. good points. I've wondered why republicans like Powell haven't stepped up to form a

new republican party. Maybe they wait for the old wealthy RW like cheney, rove & kochs to die of old age first.

[JimDandy]

31. That's also the conclusion of some of us in

my tiny part of the political sphere.

[sabrina 1]

40. The younger generation is far less partisan than previous generations. They are very issues oriented

and don't feel much loyalty to either party. OWS showed that there is more unity among them. I think they are approaching politics in a more direct way, not hampered by party loyalty, and more in line with how the FFs envisioned how the system of elections shouldl be.

Registered Independents are now the larges voting bloc in the country, at approx 42% while both parties have lost membership over the past several years.

I read this is the first time this has happened in living memory.

So you could be rght.

[jeff47]

61. IMO, we're in the death knell of the Republican party.

The Republican party is rapidly wandering off to more and more extreme positions. That creates space to "vacuum up" former Republicans who think their party is too extreme.

So DLC-style Democrats are trying to move the party right to get those unhappy Republicans. They assume "who else you gonna vote for" will keep the left in the party. And that's a dumb assumption.

IMO, what's going to happen is a party will form around the "traditional" positions of Republicans (think Ike). Another party will form around the "traditional" positions of Democrats (think FDR). The Republican party will continue wandering off into insanity until it is no longer relevant.

What we do not yet know is which of those parties will have the "Democratic" label. DLC types want it to be the one that covers the Republican positions, and everyone else in the party wants it to be the one that covers Democratic positions.

During the chaos where all this is working out, Republicans can win. What is left of their party is united in its insanity, and the "civil war" within the Democratic party means we are not. That leaves plenty of room for Republican victories, which they have exploited well.

[Marty McGraw]

88. Maybe they can discover

a blast from the past..?

[PatrickforO]

29. This is really a good post, because it shows the insidious cancer

that took a New Deal and turned it into a Third Way, materially harming millions of Americans and American families in the process.

What time is it???

It's BERNIE time!!!

[avaistheone1]

32. Very informative

k&r

[madfloridian]

36. If they shut down, who got the money from the sale to the Foundation?

That's a logical question.

[SandersDem]

42. Likely, by rule the NDP

[madfloridian]

43. Okay, probably. Sounds about right.

[Dragonfli]

46. I imagine the PPI, as it was an arm of the DLC and the surviving remnant

It did not go to the party as it was never a part of the party any more than any other think tank or "private advisory council" invested in by private donors and run by a board.

For all we know a portion went to the koch brothers as they had two representatives with seats on the DLC board.

Saying the money went to the party is as silly as saying that if the club for growth sold off it's bits the money would go to the Republican party rather than some other sister org of the network of kock funded entities formed to push agendas to the Republican party.

My bet is it went straight to the PPI as the surviving remnant - if not redistributed to other orgs as determined by the board, maybe to ThirdWay, who knows with these shadowy privately funded influence brokers and policy lobbyists.

IMO the disbanding of the DLC was more of a re-branding effort than an actual dissolution of the policy widget factory of the trickle down conservative machine that was aimed at the blue side of the aisle.

It is a very good question to ask however, someone should request an answer from the purchaser as to whom or what the check was made out to, them ask them or it how it was distributed.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

44. Laugh.

"Because many of these materials show and explain the growth and development of President Clinton's policies, passions and legacy, the William J. Clinton Foundation has purchased all of the records and materials of the DLC. The Clinton Presidential Center is an important location for telling the story not just of the Clinton administration but also of the world at the latter part of the 20th century. We believe these records are an important part of that history, and believe the Clinton Foundation is an appropriate and fitting repository.

Translation: Because of the Clinton mania for secrecy, the Clinton Foundation wants first crack at making sure many emails and memos never make it into the record of what the DLC got up to.

[arcane1]

78. We must not challenge the Official Story!

Clinton saved America from all those lib'ruls who tried to bring the nation down!

[in_cog_ni_to]

45. The DLC/BLUE DOGS should never have been allowed into the Democratic Party.

They have destroyed it, just like the Teabaggers have destroyed the GOP. We saw it as it was happening! Remember all the RW votes from the RW DLC Blue Dogs? Everytime one of the Blue Dogs voted with the Repubs, they took a piece of the Democratic Party's soul. And now the party is gone.

Their arrogance makes me want to vomit.
<snip>
The memo dismissed Dean as an elitist liberal from the "McGovern-Mondale wing" of the party -- "the wing that lost 49 states in two elections, and transformed Democrats from a strong national party into a much weaker regional one."

...."We are increasingly confident that President Bush can be beaten next year, but Dean is not the man to do it," Reed and From wrote. "Most Democrats aren't elitists who think they know better than everyone else."

They need to go!

I wonder what's being hidden in all those DLC files being 'stored' (some probably destroyed) at the Clinton Foundation?
The filth certainly runs deep.

[Scuba]

47. Hate for all those Clinton-Koch connections to become public.

[think]

49. Indeed /nt

[senz]

57. The sooner the better.

[kristopher]

50. K&R

[George II]

51. Didn't this happen almost five years ago? Why is this important now?

Everyone knows that the Clintons have been in the public eye for 30+ years. Is it really necessary to dig into their backgrounds and pull out everything that people on this site may not agree with 110%?

Is the implication that Bill Clinton's Presidency wasn't good for the country after 12 years of Reagan/Bush?

[redstateblues]

54. It's the Revisionist Echo Chamber. It still amazes me

that so many here on Democratic Underground consider the Clinton and Obama Presidencies failures.

[senz]

58. Not true. Some of us are fine with President Obama.

[floriduck]

73. My answer to that is that the 90s

was a period of technology growth, born out of the creation of the Internet. Millions of jobs were created due to necessity, not as a direct result of Bill Clinton's policies. In fact, Clinton's policies helped ignite a housing boom that grew into a bubble that broke wide open in the Bush years. He pushed the idea that everyone should own a home and gave Freddie Mac and FNMA incentives to buy as many loans as possible. I know this because I was an active participant in the mortgage banking world in the 90's through 2008.

Neither Clinton nor Bush were good for the housing markets. The Wall Street gambling took place under both of their noses. At least Clinton wasn't so stupid as to take us into an unnecessary war. But Each president lied to the American people for different reasons. War versus sex.

[DemocracyDirect]

103. I felt that some of the mortgage stuff done in the 90s was good, but...

the burst of the .com bubble in March 2000 made it go bad.

A total lack of oversight let it happen.

[emulatorloo]

52. I did not know the DLC went belly up. "Third Way" website seems silly to me

They can write as much "advice" and issue "warnings" as they want; I don't care.

[madfloridian]

96. Trouble is they have the big money to "back up" their warnings to us.

And we don't.

Unfortunately.

However we do have the voting power of numbers if we use it.

[Enthusiast]

53. Kicked and recommended a whole bunch!

[FloriTexan]

55. Kicking and Recommending

[madfloridian]

62. Seems to me a massive power play has gone this week. Geared to discourage and marginalize...

any opposition. It happened suddenly and overnight polls changed in a huge way, not just gradually.

It's just my opinion.

There's something wrong if the party powers that be are trying to squash the great enthusiasm seen in the young people. Just saying...if.

I think I would find that unforgivable.

[think]

63. The Monmouth poll was blatant manipulation and it was parroted across the nation by corporate media.

That poll was so bastardized that Monmouth should be shamed for it's culpability.

It's all about framing the propaganda and repeating it enough times so it is believed.

Kind of like when 7 out of 10 Americans believed Saddam Hussein was directly involved with 9/11. Certain politicians would make a statement and the media would just repeat it until the American people bought it.

Bernie spoke out against it. Hillary played right into it. Next thing you know we are at war with country that had absolutely nothing to do with 9/11.

[Cleita]

66. I remember going through their website and thinking Republicans.

I wrote them and asked them why they are pushing classic Republican policies? Nobody ever replied. But they took over the Democratic Party and left us FDR Democrats outside the big tent. Since nature hates a vacuum, the empty space in the Republican Party was occupied by the looney and religious conservatives that once dwelled on the fringes of the political scene.

The fact that Hillary is culling all the Democrats who can afford to donate $2700 first before she goes to smaller donors is telling as to whom her base constituents are and whom she will pander to when in office.

[McKim]

68. Thanks to Mad Floridian Once Again

Thanks to Mad Floridian for posting these important facts. The source of the DLC and Third Way money needs to be broadcast widely.
My uncles from down on the farm during The Great Depression are spinning in their Democratic Party graves to hear what is going on today.

[restorefreedom]

69. more proof of the corrupt and blantant power grab

by the establishment dems and a "certain candidate"

[blackspade]

70. K&R

What a collection of odious bullshit.
Nothing that the DLC has trotted out is true. Same goes for the Third Way and 'New Democrats'....

[gregcrawford]

72. When "Money Talks," Democracy has no voice. n/t

[Phlem]

76. The skeletons in that closet

are freaking bursting at the seams. I almost don't want to know anymore, but I've got a fresh bag of popcorn.

[Betty Karlson]

79. K&R. eom

[leftofcool]

80. More fake outrage by Hillary haters

Gee, we have some documents from the DLC that can be examined at the Clinton Foundation or at the Clinton Library and which are also on file in the National Archives and everybody is upset about this? Sheesh!

[madfloridian]

84. Al sounds like it's a history of our party.

And it probably is...at least the last two decades.

I don't like their claim to such power over the rest of us.

[jwirr]

86. I was reading the last part "the Democrat base wants

compromise" and kept wondering in all the years since 1992 what have we accomplished that really works for most Democrats? Eternal war? Universal affordable healthcare? Protection for the workers displaced by globalism? Education reform? Climate change action?

From where I set and granted I am in the poor section so I am not even their base, I have only seen us going downhill. Who exactly are their base?

[BootinUp]

89. Is it possible you think too much?

Just throwin' it out there.

[FlatBaroque]

100. LOLLLLLLLLL

[UglyGreed]

90. K/R

thank you for bringing this to my attention. Center right is not left at least not in my eyes.

[NorthCarolina]

91. It was more like a name change that a shut down. eom

[madfloridian]

92. Now comes a new thingy...that I "think too much."

At least I think.

[Oilwellian]

95. Sometimes people refuse to see...

what is right before their eyes.

K&R

[KoKo]

93. Recommend Read!

[DhhD]

94. Thanks madfloridian, I have been waiting for you to come out with this OP.

The New Democrats became the Third Way, the opposite of Bernie.

[reddread]

97. it is what they are

and why they cant garner the majority of support on a Democratic website.

[madfloridian]

98. I've had enough of Jon Cowan's observations

He's been trying to privatize Social Security since 1995 at least.

Pitting generation against generation. He was a Third Way Founder.

Despite the truth about this imminent collapse of the system, Senate Democrats recently killed the balanced-budget amendment with claims that it left Social Security vulnerable to budget-balancing. And House Republicans swore in the 1994 elections that they'd never touch the program. Why this doublespeak from both parties? A simple political calculation: Older Americans vote, and Generation X doesn't.

Unfortunately for America, this lie-to-get-elected approach is disastrous for our long-term fiscal outlook and will squander any hope of repairing the system before the crisis strikes early in the next millennium.

The time has come to reinvent Social Security based on a "cut and privatize" approach that will be fair to all age groups.

From the OP link:

“To regain majorities and boost middle class prosperity, Democrats must move past populism and embrace a modern, pro-growth economic message and agenda,” said Jon Cowan, a report author and co-founder of Third Way. “It’s time for Democrats to be Democrats, not Socialists.”

http://www.delawareonline.com/story/news/2015/10/28/markell-centrist-democrats-warn-economic-populism/74764242/

[FlatBaroque]

99. Kick

[Kip Humphrey]

101. SIMPLE TRUTH: The DLC/3rd-Way/DNC have FAILED, losing the House, the Senate, and all those state

houses and governorships. F.A.I.L. Get it? They have and are continuing apace to destroy the Democratic party and see it replaced all over the country with republicons.

FAIL, FAIL, FAIL, FAIL, FAIL, FAIL!

Oh, and guess who and what you are voting for when voting for Hillary.

[djean111]

104. No - they have TRIUMPHED.

They have taken over the Democratic Party, quite handily and in plain sight.
All they had to do, really, was dangle a couple of social programs to distract us while they looted and "buy-partisaned". And any attempt to point that out is swiftly condemned as not caring about the social programs. Deflection. Oh, and they will come after the social programs after they have the financial shit safely tucked away - like the TPP and TPIP, etc.

Hillary and Bill are the standard bearers. The Third Way logo, in a way. A vote for Hillary is a vote for the Third Way.

[MisterP]

105. as long as the checks keep coming and they have the voters to blame, they don't

see any need to change until 2076