Recognize any names?

[SoapBox]

[MohRokTah]

1. MONSANTO EVIL!!!!!

[Scootaloo]

2. Seriously, Moh?

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. Why are you laughing? n/t

[Segami]

5. Sure must be funny!

[Art_from_Ark]

11. For some reason, I thought of Bugs Bunny when I read that other post

[Fuddnik]

14. Cognitive dissonance can cause nitrous oxide symptoms in its latter stages.

[Capn Sunshine]

17. Well for one thing "counsel" is spelled wrong

which indicates the whole thing is a construct of someone with an agenda; Hillary has never worked for Monsanto and despite knowing lobbyists who did work for Monsanto, hard to avoid in DC, has no direct ties to those guys. https://www.metabunk.org/partially-debunked-list-of-monsanto-employees-in-government.t3664/

[sabrina 1]

6. Yes, voted the Most Evil Corporation in the World. Their GMOs just got banned from the 14th

European country, Poland. They are on the run, at last, everywhere governments put their people before the Corporations who fund them.

Monsanto Named 2013's 'Most Evil Corporation' In New Poll

That list explains why even though over 90% of the PEOPLE in this DEMOCRACY want their food LABELED, our Corporate funded Congress ignores them in favor of the Most Evil Corporation in the World.

[SammyWinstonJack]

28. Yeah, hilarious, isn't it?

[MohRokTah]

64. Yes, it is.

That people ascribe evil to any corporation is hilarious.

[TheKentuckian]

65. Being utterly amoral and stridently self serving often come off that way to those not privy

to the internal dialog that would provide the ability to tell such from evil.

That or since it spends the same they just don't care about motivations for evil outcomes.

[aidbo]

3. And that's Only a fraction of the legalized bribery our system is steeped in.

Last edited Tue Oct 27, 2015, 12:52 AM - Edit history (1)

Edit to add that I didn't realize Hillary was in the pic, and debunked to boot.

Oh well, doesn't negate the point.

[Duppers]

21. Hillary's connections to Monsanto

http://www.opednews.com/populum/pagem.php?f=Monsanto-and-Hillary-Clint-by-Linn-Cohen-Cole-090209-290.html

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2014/07/03/hillary-clinton-goes-bat-gmos-biotech-conference

Google shows many links.

[sufrommich]

7. Debunked:

https://www.metabunk.org/partially-debunked-list-of-monsanto-employees-in-government.t3664/





Hillary Clinton Needs no introduction, no connection with Monsanto. (https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=2008, http://littlesis.org/person/13191/Hillary_Clinton)

[Agschmid]

8. They won't care, it doesnt fit the narrative.

All meme's have become truth, no one bothers to fact check anything.

[sufrommich]

10. It reminds of the forwarded emails usually only

conservatives fall for.

[Fawke Em]

58. You do know that Meta Bunk loves neoliberals, right?

They HATE Muslims. I do know that of a fact and I don't need a link.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

12. NOT debunked. The author of your blog has a tough time

...with sentence structure, grammar, and spelling. Moreover, a couple of searches revealed he's full of shit. Try not to use inhalant freaks as your authoritative source material.

[sufrommich]

13. So you're claiming that Hillary worked for the "Monsanto Council"

and that this piece of information has never made it to any actual media outlets?

[Agschmid]

18. No it *actually* really is de-bunked.

[rpannier]

37. I just had to see Thomas' name on it

I'm almost certain that sitting USSC Justices cannot sit on boards of private companies or act as their counsel.

[azurnoir]

44. title-Partially Debunked: List of Monsanto Employees in Government Discussion in 'Conspiracy Theorie

and ends with

If ones involvement whit Monsanto in the past was a valid argument for not having the person in a political office, then so should it be for any person in politics with a prior workplace.

[azurnoir]

48. just cause

[Spitfire of ATJ]

53. LOL!!! That's not "Debunked"....

From your link (emphasis and grammar policing mine):

None of these people worked at monsanto at the same time as working in the government. Furthermore I don't think any former job at any company prior to once (sic) position as a political figure is of any interested (sic). Unless the person cannot separate his or hers (sic) political engagement from his or hers (sic) prior business, of course.

Nobody is claiming these people work both jobs at the same time.

MAJOR strawman.

[sufrommich]

63. The claim was that Hillary Clinton worked for Monsanto.

as stated,she didn't,that's debunked.The fact that some did means nothing.

[Agschmid]

75. No it actually is debunked.

Hillary did NOT work at Monsanto.

[Agschmid]

9. Hey look, we've done this before!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10022946671

[Fuddnik]

15. Walmart board was more than enough for me.

[Agschmid]

16. Please remind us what she did while she was on the board there?

[Capn Sunshine]

20. As a Director, Clinton Moved Wal-Mart Board, but Only So Far

“Did Hillary like all of Wal-Mart practices? No,” said Garry Mauro, a longtime friend and supporter of the Clintons who sat on the Wal-Mart Environmental Advisory Board with Mrs. Clinton in the late 1980s and worked with her on George McGovern’s 1972 presidential campaign.

“But,” Mr. Mauro added, “was Wal-Mart a better company, with better practices, because Hillary was on the board? Yes.

Taken from a NYT article.

[Agschmid]

23. Yup...

And if you want another take (working at Walmart that is) read about this woman, a great leader in Boston.

http://radioboston.wbur.org/2015/08/27/margaret-mckenna

[RobertEarl]

33. Walmart

The largest gun and ammo dealer in the US, maybe the world.

Yet she also wants to grab guns from legal owners? WTF?!?!?!?

[Agschmid]

34. Are you guys now running with "Clinton is a gun grabber" is that a thing now?

Did I miss the news cycle?

[RobertEarl]

39. Sure

And it means she will lose the general election.

Bernie's position to keep guns away from people who will cause mass murders is a much more acceptable to the public position.

I notice you guys are ignoring that and using smears to divert attention.

The republican would never be able to hang 'gun grabber' on Bernie. And they sure won't object to Hillary voting to invade Iraq.

Isn't that Iraq war vote something you guys are still trying to hide? Well, it cost her in 2008, and it's still a thing. Hiding it won't work.

[Agschmid]

42. I'm a bit out of the loop on the gun issue in the primary to be honest.

My opinion on guns is NOT the majority here so I don't really share it all that often.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

26. She looked out for all those $7.50/hr employees on public assistance...

selling Cheap$hitFromChina. That's our Hillary... champion of the working man and woman!

[MADem]

55. Well, that's a shitload of Not True, right there!

She was offered the seat on the board because Sam "Made in America" Walton's WIFE wanted a woman on the board.

At the time she was with them, Mister Sam was still running the joint, and WalMart was all about selling US-made products.

Soooooo....back to the drawing board with you, then! At least TRY to be slightly factual--it would help your credibility.

[WorseBeforeBetter]

84. Shareholders and Waltons's wife wanted a woman, but Hillary wasn't Sam's first choice.

Some exec from Nordstrom was. Hillary served from 1986-1992. Walton stepped down as CEO in 1988 -- still involved on the board but technically not running the joint.

While Sam Walton was alive, Walmart had a "Buy American" campaign, but it was exposed shortly after he died that signs saying "Buy American" were on bins of Asian made products. Yet by 2005, about 60% of Walmart's merchandise was imported, compared to 6% in 1984, although others estimated the percentage was 40% from the beginning.[136][137] In 2004, Walmart spent $18 billion on Chinese products alone, and if it were an individual economy, the company would rank as China's eighth largest trading partner, ahead of Russia, Australia, and Canada.[138] One group estimates that the growing U.S. trade deficit with China, heavily influenced by Walmart imports, is estimated to have moved over 1.5 million jobs that might otherwise be in America to China between 1989 and 2003.[139] According to the American Federation of Labor and Congress of Industrial Organizations (AFL-CIO), "Walmart is the single largest importer of foreign-produced goods in the United States", their biggest trading partner is China, and their trade with China alone constitutes approximately 10% of the total U.S. trade deficit with China as of 2004.[140]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_of_Walmart#Imports_and_globalization

Wal-Mart is virulently anti-union and Hillary didn't make waves. As I said, champion of the working man and woman, that's our Hillary!

Huh, she isn't touting her Wal-Mart stint in her campaign bio. Wonder why?

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/about/bio/

backatcha, MADem,

[MADem]

88. Not sure what you think is so funny--so she wasn't Sam's first choice? BFD.

And she worked for him during his Buy American lifetime--which, if you bothered to research, was that he STATED that he would not buy foreign IF US goods were available.

Not sure if you expect the board of directors to stock those bins you're going on about? Do a full audit of where everything came from in the few meetings they went to each year? Do you understand how limited the role of a member of a board is? How rarely they even meet?

She's said--long ago--that she parted ways with WALMART and she disagreed with the impediments the corporation put up with regard to union organizing, as well as their bad record on promoting women. She refused a campaign donation from them. What, you want her to keep saying it, over and over again? Do you want Bernie Sanders to keep repeating that he doesn't have the same attitudes about women that he wrote about in that stupid little essay that he wrote, too? How many times do people have to say something before it sinks in?



You haven't tossed anything back at me.

If you think you have, and it makes you feel good, you're easily pleased.

[Live and Learn]

56. Please remind me why she was there at all? Is your contention that she was a failure? nt

[bbgrunt]

19. k and r

[Agschmid]

22. Except this is false...

Do you usually kick and rec false internet memes?

[Duppers]

24. HoLeeSheet!

[delrem]

25. Wow.

How can the USA dig itself out?
Consider, the first response to this informational OP was mockery, laughter, from a Hillary Clinton supporter.
And Hillary Clinton is leading in the opinion polls, inducing more mocking laughter: "you can't win without big money and HRC has big money" kind of laughter.
And that's the way it is.

How do you even talk to these people, for whom information doesn't matter?

[Agschmid]

30. The OP is NOT factual.

Who again does information not matter for?

[delrem]

52. Actually, I googled off the names one by one, for "monsanto",

and except for David Beler and Hillary Clinton it checks out as accurate.
I couldn't get much info on David Beler.
Although I most certainly did find plenty of pro-GMO associations for Hillary Clinton, there's nothing about "monsanto councel" and no such connection beyond the rather rarefied connect via Rose Law firm.

So -

I'm a bit taken aback by how deeply this one company has embedded itself in the US gov't. I don't think it's funny, ludicrous, at all. And I'll give you your point in defense of Hillary. One has to be EXACT in all details, on that score.

[RiverLover]

69. I think its truly concerning as well. And we're talking about more than just our food supply.

http://ecowatch.com/2015/10/26/cotton-glyphosate-cancer/

[Agschmid]

74. Thanks.

[TheKentuckian]

72. Your first sentence is the problem. The 1st rule of getting out of deep holes is

to stop digging but we always want to keep digging and tend to end up with bigger and deeper holes.

The Clinton candidacy's support in the face of the particular problems and challenges we face as a nation and a world is indicative of this.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

27. Quid pro quo? Perish the thought. Monsanto is paying politicians out sheer altruism.

[Agschmid]

29. Except this is NOT factual.

[LuvLoogie]

35. The Revolution is highly invested in Hillary's Flaws--

imagined or otherwise.

[Agschmid]

38. Sure seems like.

[olddots]

31. another day another

Reason to vote for Bernie....

[Agschmid]

32. OP is false, just FYI.

[RiverLover]

71. No it isn't, just FYI.

[Agschmid]

76. Yes it actually it.

Hillary did NOT work at Monsanto.

To say otherwise is just false, no way around it.

[oasis]

36. Debunked.

[NanceGreggs]

40. And yet ...

... it will be quoted as "fact" anyway.

[Agschmid]

41. Yup.

It literally was debunked in 2013 too, here on DU.

[oasis]

45. A small cadre of desperadoes will never sway voters with this weak bs.

I can't wait until 3/2. Super Tuesday plus one.

Party in the DU Hillary Group.

[Agschmid]

47. Heck we can even have the party in GDP.

But... let's not get too excited.

We've got ALOT of work to do still.

[oasis]

51. True so true. (eom)

[Fawke Em]

62. You party. America weeps.

And not because of this OP.

[NanceGreggs]

43. Where did this originate?

I'm just curious as to why, if you thought this was legitimate piece of "news" (and I'm assuming that you did), you didn't provide the original source in the OP.

[Agschmid]

46. The image is a tweet, so someone tweeted it. But the meme can be traced back to at least 2013...

on Facebook.

[NanceGreggs]

49. So someone posted this ...

... as an OP, without there being a legitimate source to back it up, and without bothering to at least Google to see if there was any evidence at all behind the info?

That's pretty - uh - well, I'll say no more. I'm sure you know where I'm going.

[Agschmid]

50. Apparently if it's tweeted, it must be true.

Maybe the OP will edit in the morning?

It's quite late.

[NanceGreggs]

54. Sorry, I keep forgetting that about tweetery.

And maybe the OP will edit in the morning.

I am just still astounded that someone would post an unsourced tweet as though it were legit information, and do so without any investigation into its legitimacy whatsoever.

[quickesst]

78. haha...

It's like the internet. You can't tweet anything on Twitter unless it's true!

[MADem]

57. In the bowels of the small mind of a desperate and angry individual, no doubt.

But hey, if it's ripped from Twitter, it must be true!!!!

[NCTraveler]

61. Wingers often float things like this online....

Hoping LIV's will disiminate it.

[newfie11]

59. There's what's wrong with America

If the general public doesn't wake up soon this country and possibly the world is screwed!

[Agschmid]

73. Except that the OP is false.

[jberryhill]

81. What's wrong with America is that people believe every piece of shit they see on the internet

[NCTraveler]

60. K&R

This needs to stay up top for the rest of the primary. If it's found on the Internet, it's worthy of discussion. I think some people believe Google is a news organization providing you with facts.

[NCTraveler]

66. I hear Twitter is a fact checking organization.

Lol. This shit is too funny. After this brilliant post, the most recognizable name around here moving forward will be the one at the very top of the op.

[NurseJackie]

67. Nope. This didn't change my mind.

I'm still supporting Hillary. Got anything else?

[Armstead]

68. The Board member is urban legend BUT....

Clinton and her inner circle have many ties to Monsanto, and they are very cozy. Clinton pushed GMOS as SoS, and in otehr venues.

GMO's is a legitimate subject for debate -- opinions vary. But Clinton needs to own her support for it.

And, more importantly, her ties to a Big Monopolistic Chemical and Ag Monster like Monsanto indicate her worldview and allegiances.

She is totally comfortable with a corporation that is trying to fuck over small farmers and gaining total control (only a slight exaggeration) of many aspects of life and commerce. t is an example of the kind of corporations that we should be whittling down to reasonable size, instead of enabling their empire-building schemes.

[RiverLover]

70. Its safer in Europe where Monsanto hasn't bought off as many politicians & university profs.

EU Nations Ban GMOs

In addition to the glyphosate backlash, Monsanto has had to deal with several EU countries who have said no to the company's GM crops. A new European Union law signed in March allows individual member countries to be excluded from any GM cultivation approval request. European opposition to GMOs has been strong: Unlike in the Americas and Asia, where GMO crops are widely grown, only Monsanto's pest-resistant MON810, a GMO maize, is grown in Europe. Several nations have taken advantage of the new exclusion law: Scotland, Germany, Latvia, Greece, France and recently, Northern Ireland, have all invoked it.

http://www.alternet.org/environment/monsanto-suffers-several-2015-setbacks

A Harvard Kennedy School professor wrote a widely disseminated policy paper last year in support of genetically modified organisms at the behest of seed giant Monsanto, without disclosing his connection, e-mails show.

Monsanto not only suggested the topic to professor Calestous Juma. It went so far as to provide a summary of what the paper could say and a suggested headline. The company then connected the professor with a marketing company to pump it out over the Internet as part of Monsanto’s strategy to win over the public and lawmakers, according to e-mails obtained through a public records request.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2015/10/01/harvard-professor-failed-disclose-monsanto-connection-paper-touting-gmos/lLJipJQmI5WKS6RAgQbnrN/story.html

[portlander23]

77. I don't think this list is correct

I don't think Mrs. Clinton was employed by Monsanto, so I would retract this.

Partially Debunked: List of Monsanto Employees in Government

Hillary Clinton Needs no introduction, no connection with Monsanto. (https://www.opensecrets.org/politicians/summary.php?cid=N00000019&cycle=2008, http://littlesis.org/person/13191/Hillary_Clinton)

If you want to make a serious critique however, I think there are things that could be said:

Hillary vs. Bernie on Frankenfood

How is Hillary personally involved in supporting big agriculture? The Clinton Global Initiative (CGI), which gathers leaders to solve the world's problems, promotes Monsanto, the maker of RoundUp® and RoundUp Ready® seeds. Hugh Grant, Monsanto's Chairman and CEO spoke at the Clinton Global Initiative conference in September, 2014. Ms. Clinton's top campaign advisor, Jerry Crawford, was a lobbyist for Monsanto for years and is now the political pro for her Super PAC, "Ready for Hillary." Clinton spoke in favor of the government's Feed the Future (FtF) program, a USAID funded, corporate-partnered program that brings RoundUp Ready® technology to the most vulnerable populations of the world. Monsanto and Dow Chemical support Hillary and Bill's 'Clinton Foundation' with generous donations.

Last year, at a San Diego biotech conference, Hillary coached her audience in messaging. "Genetically modified sounds Frankensteinish. Drought-resistant sounds like something you'd want. Be more careful so you don't raise that red flag immediately."

It's also highly unlikely for Hillary Clinton to stand up against her benefactors, saying she favors a review of RoundUp, 2,4-D, and the even more toxic poisons used by farmers worldwide when she has friends in the industry telling her that they will "feed the world" someday with their agricultural methods.

[NCTraveler]

79. Pretty shitty that the spreading of a blatant lie against a progressive gets this many recc's.

It's like I have logged on to FR. Truly.

[Agschmid]

80. Last night it had 33.

It's now up to 57 even though the entire thread is about how the meme is false.

I have a feeling they aren't just "ironic" rec's...

People actually believe this to be true, that's the only reason I can fathom. The problem with that is that it's a meme from at least 2013, and it's demonstratively false.

[NanceGreggs]

85. And it is now ...

... up to 67 RECs - despite, as you've said, the entire thread being about how it's false.

And people talk about how gullible FOX-News watchers are ...

[lovemydog]

86. My first thought was

'what's the source.'

Sorry I haven't read this full thread. Has the original post been debunked?

[OilemFirchen]

82. Notwithstanding the OP's lack of veracity...

if posters here knew of my clients, I'd be sent to Purity Prison for life.

[burrowowl]

87. K&R

[treestar]

89. Finally an Identity for some of the oligarchs!

Damn them all!

[Zorra]

90. WOW! I'm definitely leaving the country if either a republican or

Hillary Clinton is elected POTUS.