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Related: About this forumPolitifact: Clinton changed on torture TRUE
Clinton changed on torture
By Angie Drobnic Holan on Friday, February 1st, 2008 at 12:00 a.m.
Barack Obama made his most direct case for the Democratic nomination at a speech on Jan. 30, 2008, in Denver. He criticized fellow Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's candidacy, arguing that he represents a more dramatic distinction with John McCain, the apparent Republican frontrunner after winning Florida's primary.
In making his argument, Obama attacked Clinton for voting with Republicans on national security issues, among other things.
After naming a number of areas where he said Clinton and McCain had the same positions, Obama attacked Clinton for diverging from McCain on the issue of torture. Clinton "actually differed with him by arguing for exceptions for torture before changing positions when the politics of the moment changed," Obama said.
It sounds a little convoluted, so here's the step-by-step.
In October 2006, Clinton spoke about exceptions to a no-torture policy when speaking to the New York Daily News. Clinton mentioned a "ticking time bomb" scenario in which a captured terrorist has knowledge of an imminent terror attack and interrogators want to use torture....
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/feb/01/barack-obama/clinton-changed-on-torture/
Hillary Clinton "actually differed with (John McCain) by arguing for exceptions for torture before changing positions."
Barack Obama on Wednesday, January 30th, 2008 in Denver
By Angie Drobnic Holan on Friday, February 1st, 2008 at 12:00 a.m.
Barack Obama made his most direct case for the Democratic nomination at a speech on Jan. 30, 2008, in Denver. He criticized fellow Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's candidacy, arguing that he represents a more dramatic distinction with John McCain, the apparent Republican frontrunner after winning Florida's primary.
In making his argument, Obama attacked Clinton for voting with Republicans on national security issues, among other things.
After naming a number of areas where he said Clinton and McCain had the same positions, Obama attacked Clinton for diverging from McCain on the issue of torture. Clinton "actually differed with him by arguing for exceptions for torture before changing positions when the politics of the moment changed," Obama said.
It sounds a little convoluted, so here's the step-by-step.
In October 2006, Clinton spoke about exceptions to a no-torture policy when speaking to the New York Daily News. Clinton mentioned a "ticking time bomb" scenario in which a captured terrorist has knowledge of an imminent terror attack and interrogators want to use torture....
http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2008/feb/01/barack-obama/clinton-changed-on-torture/
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Politifact: Clinton changed on torture TRUE (Original Post)
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Oct 2015
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in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)1. Bookmarked! K&R! n/t
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)4. And this was of course before the president called critics of torture "sanctimonious"
Does dc corrupt people, or do corrupt people go to dc?
I feel like with Sanders I won't have to defend him for suddenly declaring that torture is OK.