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You gotta love the look of the latest HuffPost/Pollster chart.. (Original Post) DCBob Oct 2015 OP
YUP. loving it...Thanks riversedge Oct 2015 #1
I suspect the line going up has not stopped. DCBob Oct 2015 #2
Also, Bernie's support is holding strong. All I see is that Hill won back some people she had lost. reformist2 Oct 2015 #22
Yeah.. "holding strong" at 25% isnt going to get him anywhere.. DCBob Oct 2015 #27
Like the trend lines. Bernie appears to flatten out. FloridaBlues Oct 2015 #56
Banksters Winning Again Yallow Oct 2015 #3
I think the positive effect is more from Hillary's strong debate performance.. DCBob Oct 2015 #5
Bankrupt? Really Bob? Yallow Oct 2015 #60
Im afraid his extreme economic policies could disrupt this nation's economy. DCBob Oct 2015 #61
90% Of Us Are Still In The Recession Yallow Oct 2015 #73
It's far from over. Bernie has truth, the good will of the people, and integrity. Android3.14 Oct 2015 #4
We wont lose the general if all Democrats rally around the nominee. DCBob Oct 2015 #7
That is an outstanding question, Bob. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #8
Yes we will lose the GE if Hillary is the nominee Android3.14 Oct 2015 #9
So.. from that I take it you wont rally around the Democratic nominee.. DCBob Oct 2015 #10
Yes. Nothingcleverjustray Oct 2015 #15
Are you also the Android person?? DCBob Oct 2015 #17
Oh Bubby, your post is so pathetic Android3.14 Oct 2015 #18
What's the Bubby shit?? DCBob Oct 2015 #20
"Get lost" ? Android3.14 Oct 2015 #23
Go harass someone else... Im done with you. DCBob Oct 2015 #25
Bob, we HRC supporters are exemplars to the world. In that vein I humbly request you edit your post. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #29
yes, you are of course correct but.. DCBob Oct 2015 #34
When folks are upset and lash out it's often best to think why and consequently leave them alone. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #43
Acceptance of a loss in the GE or business as usual? Android3.14 Oct 2015 #46
Spoken like a true bully Android3.14 Oct 2015 #40
Respectfully, you must be the product of a rarefied milieu if you think Bob's a bully. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #44
I have never been called a bully before.. DCBob Oct 2015 #48
Bob The Bully... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #49
Android3.14.. I think you need to upgrade to newer version.. DCBob Oct 2015 #45
Android3.14, I'm a huge Bernie fan, but I'll be darned if I say home and let the GOP take over...... secondwind Oct 2015 #11
You won't. But you will not convince the independents who are on fire for Bernie to switch Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #14
Don't be naive Android3.14 Oct 2015 #16
"she is an awful choice" compared to what?? Trump, Bush, Rubio, Carson?? DCBob Oct 2015 #19
Comparison means you do not understand davemac Oct 2015 #33
That is one bizarre post. DCBob Oct 2015 #42
Fully developed anger stage. okasha Oct 2015 #58
It will be like two Republican candidates running against each other if INdemo Oct 2015 #26
Not if there are any Supreme Court nominations (n/t) thesquanderer Oct 2015 #36
What does he or she care? DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #67
Absurd. DCBob Oct 2015 #37
I will not. Chan790 Oct 2015 #28
This comes to mind.. DCBob Oct 2015 #31
A green square reading "visit QuotesCover.com" means nothing to me, Bob. n/t Chan790 Oct 2015 #32
That's what I'd be doing if I voted for Hillary. Chan790 Oct 2015 #47
There is no logic in that of course. DCBob Oct 2015 #51
Looks great! workinclasszero Oct 2015 #6
Swinging That Cudgel Yet Again cantbeserious Oct 2015 #12
Effective.. no? DCBob Oct 2015 #13
Basically the same as where HRC was over BO at this point in the cycle. ReallyIAmAnOptimist Oct 2015 #21
Well.. DCBob Oct 2015 #24
March 1st 2016...game over workinclasszero Oct 2015 #35
I doubt it too. DCBob Oct 2015 #41
This is what I don't understand workinclasszero Oct 2015 #50
Bernie is no Obama workinclasszero Oct 2015 #30
Bernie is better and Hillary is still Hillary. Dawgs Oct 2015 #38
Hillary will destroy whatever demagogue clown the teahaddists workinclasszero Oct 2015 #39
Bernie Sanders will bring out the progressives INdemo Oct 2015 #52
BS workinclasszero Oct 2015 #53
I would be curious to see how many Hillary supporters voted for Romney INdemo Oct 2015 #54
Id be curious to know how HRC voted in 2000 reddread Oct 2015 #57
I know 83% of them voted for Obama in 2008 DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #68
But with many other people in the race treestar Oct 2015 #55
Is this before or after Thursday night because.... Walk away Oct 2015 #59
Corporate media has been a 24/7 Hillary commercial since the debate ended. mhatrw Oct 2015 #62
If she didnt do well just the opposite would have happened. DCBob Oct 2015 #64
Hillary's Strong~ Thank you, DC Bob! Cha Oct 2015 #63
Numbers are a tool of the oligarchy workinclasszero Oct 2015 #65
Hillary was always going to gain a bunch when Biden decided not to run jfern Oct 2015 #66
Her numbers started to improve late September.. DCBob Oct 2015 #69
That's when Biden started heading down jfern Oct 2015 #70
You said her gains came from Biden deciding not to run DCBob Oct 2015 #71
Biden was dropping on Huffington average before he decided not to run jfern Oct 2015 #72

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
2. I suspect the line going up has not stopped.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 08:37 AM
Oct 2015

We have yet to see many polls post Benghazi hearing.

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
22. Also, Bernie's support is holding strong. All I see is that Hill won back some people she had lost.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:01 AM
Oct 2015

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
27. Yeah.. "holding strong" at 25% isnt going to get him anywhere..
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:10 AM
Oct 2015

except as a footnote in the history books.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
5. I think the positive effect is more from Hillary's strong debate performance..
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:12 AM
Oct 2015

and that the fake email scandal finally dying.

Banksters may fear Sanders more than Hillary perhaps because a Sanders administration might cause this nation to go bankrupt.

 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
60. Bankrupt? Really Bob?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 03:33 PM
Oct 2015

By making billionaires pay some taxes like us working stiffs?

What I notice, is when "folks" can't debate Bernie's (100% correct) policies, they make stuff up.

I watch all kinds of Republicans making wild claims about Bernie. All lies. 80% tax rate etc.

And you saying Bernie will bankrupt our 19 trillion dollar in debt nation with a shrinking middle class, is just stupid.

The top tax rate was much higher a few years back, and America built the best infrastructure, and education system the world had ever seen.

Taxes got cut, debt exploded, and America is now crumbling, and our bridges are literally falling into rivers.

Bernie plans on fixing some of the stuff, mainly who pays to make America great again.

Hillary, not so much.....

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
61. Im afraid his extreme economic policies could disrupt this nation's economy.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:31 PM
Oct 2015

Our economy is still fragile and any radical change could send us back into a recession.

 

Yallow

(1,926 posts)
73. 90% Of Us Are Still In The Recession
Mon Oct 26, 2015, 01:45 AM
Oct 2015

You mean the top .01% won't be able to reap their normal "returns" while the rest of us lose ground more, and more, and more.

I am 100% sure Bernie's policies if implemented will benefit far more people than the current trickle up crap we have had shoved down our throats since Reagan poisoned our economy.

I understand your concerns.

The filthy rich may revolt if they can double their wealth ever year!

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
4. It's far from over. Bernie has truth, the good will of the people, and integrity.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:12 AM
Oct 2015

I'd hate to see the Democrats lose the GE because of Hillary.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
9. Yes we will lose the GE if Hillary is the nominee
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:19 AM
Oct 2015

The math is obvious.

Weak Democratic support, animosity towards Hillary from the majority of independents, plus large voter turnout from the Republican haters equals a loss.

Those who push loyalty oaths, especially at the cost of Democratic values, are the reason this country has such an ignorant and pliable populace. Keep up the good work, Bubby.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
18. Oh Bubby, your post is so pathetic
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:52 AM
Oct 2015

The only thing you can think to do is try to strong arm a loyalty oath.

Aren't you the patriot.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
29. Bob, we HRC supporters are exemplars to the world. In that vein I humbly request you edit your post.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:13 AM
Oct 2015

A lot of the denizens of this board are working their way through Elisabeth Kubler Ross' "Five Stages Of Grief" and are only in the first stage which is "Anger and Denial" . This is manifested in them questioning the credibility of scientific polls and lashing out at other members of this board indiscriminately. We should be there to comfort them and help them work through all the stages, the final stage which is "Acceptance"

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
43. When folks are upset and lash out it's often best to think why and consequently leave them alone.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:27 AM
Oct 2015

Some times they are just having a rough go of it.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
46. Acceptance of a loss in the GE or business as usual?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:32 AM
Oct 2015

It's not a matter of acceptance. It's the hopeful viewpoint that ethics, intelligence and courage will win out on willful ignorance and carry us forward with a positive vision for the future of our country..

Whoops - deleted the Kubler Ross reference.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
49. Bob The Bully...
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:36 AM
Oct 2015

You merely asked him if he would vote for the eventual nominee. If there was a threat, explicit or implicit, it was so small as to be imperceptible, and in any case it was unenforceable.


DCBob

(24,689 posts)
45. Android3.14.. I think you need to upgrade to newer version..
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:30 AM
Oct 2015

You seem out of date and prone to errors.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
11. Android3.14, I'm a huge Bernie fan, but I'll be darned if I say home and let the GOP take over......
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:34 AM
Oct 2015

If ALL Democrats come out in '16, we will regain the WH and even the Senate.

I'm not against Hillary per se, I just liked Bernie more... I still think she is an incredible candidate, and is far superior to the crazy that the GOP is offering. I will gladly pull the lever for Hillary Rodham Clinton....

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
14. You won't. But you will not convince the independents who are on fire for Bernie to switch
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:43 AM
Oct 2015

allegiances to Hillary. They are largely coming out because the see an alternative to Hillary. I'll bet money on it.

 

Android3.14

(5,402 posts)
16. Don't be naive
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 09:50 AM
Oct 2015

I could swear up and down that I will vote for her, but it won't matter. She has failed the general populace over and over, from her vote for the Iraq War, repeated support for the PATRIOT Act, obvious lack of virtue when it comes to her being in bed with Wall Street.

Intelligent, ethical and informed voters see she is an awful choice, and when you combine that with the over-the-top haters, that makes an equation for losing.

What's sickening is that she has intelligent informed strategists who know this, and she will sacrifice the country in her relentless drive for power.

 

davemac

(28 posts)
33. Comparison means you do not understand
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:17 AM
Oct 2015

Clinton, Trump, Bush, Rubio and Carson all have one major thing in common....they are working for the Corporatists and Oligarchs. If you don't believe me, go check out who is funding their super-pacs. Yes, they may catch you on social issues but the BIG ISSUE...CORPORATISM.....the thing which began with the election of Ronald Reagan - and has continued ever since with the election of Corporatists Presidents to this day. Yes, Bill Clinton is a Corporatists. In fact, he was the one who won the day for the Oligarchs. Up until his election, the Oligarchs only owned the Republicans. Bill gave them the Democratic Party. From this time on, electing a President has been a fun game for the Oligarchs. Here, pick which puppet you like, I have one on my right hand and one on my left hand. Sadly, Obama was the biggest scam. Hand-picked by Jamie Rubin, he fooled Americans into believing he was for change. They gave him Obamacare - as long as single payer was off the table - and big Pharma won big. And hey, did one Bankster go to jail? QED. Hilary Clinton has her super pack and only accepts her position on the left hand of the Oligarchs. In terms of full disclosure, Anderson Cooper should have opened the Democratic Presidential debate with a full disclosure statement that CNN is owned by Times Warner and that Times Warner was in the top 7 of Hilary's contributors to her super pac.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
26. It will be like two Republican candidates running against each other if
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:08 AM
Oct 2015

Hillary wins the nomination. So either way Republicans win.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
67. What does he or she care?
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 06:04 PM
Oct 2015

She gets to hide behind her heterosexual white male or female privilege while the GOP wages war on blacks, browns, the poor, the working class, and glbtq people.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
28. I will not.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:11 AM
Oct 2015

I honestly believe Hillary is more evil than Trump or Carson. She's the Vidkun Quisling of the Democratic party.

At least I can count on Republicans to shank Progressive values in the gut, not the back. Hillary, I've come to expect to backstab progressives every chance she gets and at the least opportune times. To me, Hillary is a stealth Republican and her supporters are the parade-goers from the fable of The Emperor's New Clothes shouting about her magnificence.

I will never support her. (I take that back...I'll vote for Hillary if she renounces the Third Way, Wall Street, "big banking" and Bill's legacy as President; swears off PAC money; and changes her name to Bernadette Sanders to reflect her new political identity as a Democratic-Socialist.)

I'll (probably) be voting my conscience and writing in Bernie if Hillary is the nominee.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
47. That's what I'd be doing if I voted for Hillary.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:33 AM
Oct 2015

I have truly no use for her. At all. She's totally politically-null. A non-factor. She'll never get my vote or my support. I even withhold it from people she's employed, endorsed or who I perceive as being too close to the Clintons.

This is the face of my truest enemy:


The only thing I'd ever support Hillary doing is retiring.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
51. There is no logic in that of course.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:38 AM
Oct 2015

The GOP will destroy the things most dear to people who call themselves Democrats.

I suspect you are a small minority of those who are actual Democrats and I also suspect you will change your mind once we get close to actually voting next November. Few real Democrats could ignore the potential horrific damage a fully GOP controlled government could do.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
24. Well..
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:07 AM
Oct 2015

as has been said here many times before.. Bernie is no Obama... far from it.

Once Bernie shows he can connect with African American voters then he might have shot.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
35. March 1st 2016...game over
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:18 AM
Oct 2015

Do you think Bernie will make any inroads at all with the base democratic voters by then?

I doubt it with the way they are running their campaign as evidenced by the ridiculous stuff on this board anyway.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
41. I doubt it too.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:25 AM
Oct 2015

Bernie still seems to be focusing his main efforts in his comfort zone.. northern white liberal states. Unless something dramatic changes he is toast once we get past NH.

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
50. This is what I don't understand
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:37 AM
Oct 2015

Its like they do not care a bit that they are going nowhere with PoC which are the base of the democratic party. They keep hammering away at 90% plus white states with small populations while writing off large population, racially diverse states loaded with delegates.

WTH?

It makes no sense and everyday they concentrate on these two little non-representative states, their chances of actually winning decrease!

Its

 

Dawgs

(14,755 posts)
38. Bernie is better and Hillary is still Hillary.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:21 AM
Oct 2015

Not sure it will matter though. Democrats are determined to lose the presidency this time.

INdemo

(6,994 posts)
52. Bernie Sanders will bring out the progressives
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:43 AM
Oct 2015

and defeat any candidate the Republican offers...yes by a landslide

Then Banks,Wall St, will be shreding documents and beginning their cove-ups

 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
53. BS
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 10:47 AM
Oct 2015

Good luck getting them off their asses, under 30's hardly ever show up at elections.

Internet clickbait polls are their game lol

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,716 posts)
68. I know 83% of them voted for Obama in 2008
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 06:11 PM
Oct 2015

Willard Romney received 7% of the Democratic vote in 2012:

http://www.ropercenter.uconn.edu/polls/us-elections/how-groups-voted/how-groups-voted-2012/

so it couldn't be very many.


Does that satisfy your curiosity?


Thank you in advance.

Walk away

(9,494 posts)
59. Is this before or after Thursday night because....
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:58 PM
Oct 2015

... things are going to start changing for even better for Hillary this coming week. She really only has to stay where she is right now and she wins the nomination handily.

The repukes will throw more mud but at this point, only their base really cares or believes. Bernie and his friends have stopped calling for more debates (gee I wonder why) and she can concentrate on small town halls and getting a jump on fund raising for the general.

Poor Bernie, who wasn't going to attack her, has started to attack her. If he keeps it up it won't go well for him. He should ask Trey Gowdy what it feels like to try to smack Hillary around. She is great under pressure and her opponents usually just shout loudly and lose... badly.



mhatrw

(10,786 posts)
62. Corporate media has been a 24/7 Hillary commercial since the debate ended.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:52 PM
Oct 2015

Hillary so dreamily "Presidential". Look at what a competent public speaker Hillary is! Hillary gave such command performances!

Hillary deserves to sweep the Emmys!

The issues? What are those? You mean those little meaningless things that Clinton recently sort of decided to agree with Sanders on? What do those have to do with anything?

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
64. If she didnt do well just the opposite would have happened.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 05:54 PM
Oct 2015

It would have been 24/7 "Hillary the great is finished!"

jfern

(5,204 posts)
70. That's when Biden started heading down
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 06:23 PM
Oct 2015

Geez, just turn on Biden on the graph and you'll see all of her gains came from him.

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