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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:30 PM Oct 2015

Sanders' Not-So-Katy Perry Concert During Iowa Campaign Swing

Last edited Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:22 PM - Edit history (1)

Cute title for an article. But it really says so much. Look at the picture.

Just Bernie, an empty stage, and two I assume musicians.

Sanders' Not-So-Katy Perry Concert During Iowa Campaign Swing

Not a word on any news TV that I saw, nothing. That's the way it has been, the way it will be. It speaks to the supposed inevitability of the opponent. That's the way politics is.

The crowd was about 2400, not bad at all. No picture, but at least a mention.



Democratic presidential candidate, Sen. Bernie Sanders, I-Vt., speaks during a concert hosted by his campaign, Oct. 23, 2015, in Davenport, Iowa.

The night ended with the real rockstar the crowd had waited for -- Bernie Sanders himself. The Vermont Senator came onstage and asked the standing fans, “How would you like to make history?

“Because that’s what we’re going to do… We’re going to have a grassroots movement that takes on and defeats the political and economic establishment of this country,” he said.


That's a possibility, and I think a really strong possibility. Not going to be easy. Some of the largest political rallies in this country and ignored by all but a few local media.

I am supporting Bernie strongly. I watch all the polls posted here several times a day, and I realize that from now on polls will say whatever the pollsters want them to say except in a few instances. I am ignoring them because I think we are in uncharted territory. I think it skews polls because no one really has a handle on anything for 2016 yet.

Saw a post today that analyzes both parties and the chances of the candidates.

It's Time To Admit: Nobody Knows Anything About The 2016 Campaign

The old "rules" of presidential politics no longer seem to apply.

Democrats, too

It’s not just on the Republican side where the old rules of politics appear to be just that: old.

.....Meanwhile, a 74-year-old socialist from Vermont with the personal touch of a hedgehog stepped in to fill the void, regularly drawing the biggest crowds of the campaign and building a lead in the nation’s first primary state of New Hampshire, where Clinton’s strength only months earlier had appeared close to untouchable.

Summertime dalliances with anti-establishment candidates are nothing new in presidential campaigns. But now, with New Hampshire's fall foliage at its peak, it has become clear that Sen. Bernie Sanders has staying power. Of the 680,000 donors to his campaign, only 270 have contributed the maximum amount, giving his campaign a veritable ATM machine upon which to draw funds.

....The trend lines of this election are clear: In the social media age -- a time in which authenticity appears to be the most prized commodity in a presidential candidate -- institutions like political parties and media arbiters of conventional wisdom matter far less than they once did.

After so many supposed experts have been so wrong about so many facets of the race, there's just about one certainty left: It's safe to ignore anyone who purports to having a firm grasp on what’s going to happen next.


Amen to that.

Bernie's word war on the media and the corporate influence on politics are not going to be tolerated easily by those Powers That Be.

I'm in it for the long run, and I do not know what will happen. I was a Deaniac in 2004, and whatever the heck they call us Bernie supporters now....I am one of them, too.

I think there is no way to poll all the new folks coming into politics because Bernie Sanders is speaking out yet aware of what usually happens to candidates who don't toe the party line.

It's taking a chance time for me. I have already been stunned by allegations that Bernie and his supporters are racist....that didn't happen in 2004. A little in 2008, but not so pronounced that one suspected it to be organized.

There's a lot more to come before the primaries end. If the ridicule and racism is going to be a part of it, most of us are ready for that as well.

I intend to remember this paragraph from the 2nd link:

After so many supposed experts have been so wrong about so many facets of the race, there's just about one certainty left: It's safe to ignore anyone who purports to having a firm grasp on what’s going to happen next.
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Sanders' Not-So-Katy Perry Concert During Iowa Campaign Swing (Original Post) madfloridian Oct 2015 OP
You're a day late. MohRokTah Oct 2015 #1
Shoo. Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #2
........... madfloridian Oct 2015 #3
As a Hillary Clinton supporter and therefore an exemplar to the world ... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #8
It appears to me that the LiberalElite Oct 2015 #10
I requested that Moh Rok Tah leave this thread alone. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #13
As a Sandernista, I thank you for that,and sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #11
Thank you. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #14
Ignore is our good friend. roody Oct 2015 #25
This however is now pinebox Oct 2015 #12
That hat and "boutonnière" were very clever: George II Oct 2015 #23
Hillary or Democracy ProgressiveJarhead Oct 2015 #26
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #29
Not even close to original. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #32
The Bernie Blackout. SoapBox Oct 2015 #4
"a 74-year-old socialist from Vermont with the personal touch of a hedgehog" madfloridian Oct 2015 #5
My Grandaughter has a hedgehog. Such a gentle loving little guy with tons of personality Autumn Oct 2015 #20
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #27
You said "A Tard Would". Could you explain, please? madfloridian Oct 2015 #28
Sorry ProgressiveJarhead Oct 2015 #31
A derogatory term for the developmentally disabled. NuclearDem Oct 2015 #33
Time for someone to leave. Nt F4lconF16 Oct 2015 #37
Never mind explaining. madfloridian Oct 2015 #30
Please delete your post. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #47
As to what Bernie supporters are called OffWithTheirHeads Oct 2015 #6
There you go...that'll do just fine. madfloridian Oct 2015 #7
Thank goodness for social media! pacalo Oct 2015 #9
Amen to that. madfloridian Oct 2015 #15
Without social media, Bernie would be disappeared. madfloridian Oct 2015 #64
A post in the Bernie forum...marching to the JJ Dinner. Great pics. madfloridian Oct 2015 #16
All we have to do to see that this is different is ask ourselves jwirr Oct 2015 #17
Exactly, a long time. madfloridian Oct 2015 #18
Let the revolution begin. Agschmid Oct 2015 #19
You know what? There are lots of pictures keyed to ridicule either candidate. madfloridian Oct 2015 #21
Oh we don't? Agschmid Oct 2015 #22
So there will be nothing snarky about Bernie Sanders in the Hillary Clinton group? That Guy 888 Oct 2015 #24
O hai thx now I have another thread to rec. Kalidurga Oct 2015 #38
No problem. Agschmid Oct 2015 #40
Yes, I can read Kalidurga Oct 2015 #41
What a hypocrite. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #39
197 recs now. Agschmid Oct 2015 #42
Good, I hope it gets 300 just to piss you off. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #43
Says some random person on an internet discussion board. Agschmid Oct 2015 #44
At least I'm not pretending to be better than everyone else while wallowing in the muck. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #45
I'm not any better than anyone on here. And I certainly don't pretend to be. Agschmid Oct 2015 #46
Yes you do, you're known for your sneering lectures to Bernie supporters about their behaviour. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #48
My "sneering lectures"... Agschmid Oct 2015 #49
Why? beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #50
Ok. Agschmid Oct 2015 #51
Can you re-evaluate the link moabfan Oct 2015 #57
It was a Hillary supporter who went over the line and called someone an "ass"... Agschmid Oct 2015 #58
Thank you for the context of the OP moabfan Oct 2015 #59
No problem. Agschmid Oct 2015 #60
That thread got a DU rec. Thank you. moabfan Oct 2015 #56
So this is the real Agschmid. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #34
It's seems just about right for the level of discourse lately. Agschmid Oct 2015 #35
I once respected you. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #36
Amazing how totally you hijacked this thread. Absolutely amazing. madfloridian Oct 2015 #52
Wasn't really my intention. Agschmid Oct 2015 #53
I'm sorry for my part in that, mf. beam me up scottie Oct 2015 #54
It's our fault, MF Scootaloo Oct 2015 #63
Nosebleed seats tend to look like that. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #62
Great pics. madfloridian Oct 2015 #65
Wow, I am reading new threads now condemning creative supporters, AND madfloridian Oct 2015 #55
Bernie's words tonight about the TPP...so true. madfloridian Oct 2015 #61

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
8. As a Hillary Clinton supporter and therefore an exemplar to the world ...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:45 PM
Oct 2015

As a Hillary Clinton supporter and therefore an exemplar to the world I would humbly request that you please leave the celebratory threads of other candidates alone.

Every candidate is entitled to his or her day.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
10. It appears to me that the
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:52 PM
Oct 2015

Hillary Clinton supporter was doing exactly what you're telling Sanders supporters not to do. Every candidate is entitled to his or her day.

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
14. Thank you.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:03 PM
Oct 2015



Folks start a thread to celebrate their candidate. I don't see the utility of coming in and interrupting it and making folks upset.

Response to MohRokTah (Reply #1)

SoapBox

(18,791 posts)
4. The Bernie Blackout.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:39 PM
Oct 2015

But it will be ever so interesting how much coverage that Feel the Bern plane flying over Willie, while was speaking outside the J-J Dinner...it'll probably be all boo-hoo, for interrupting him.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
5. "a 74-year-old socialist from Vermont with the personal touch of a hedgehog"
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:43 PM
Oct 2015

I love that description.

Autumn

(45,113 posts)
20. My Grandaughter has a hedgehog. Such a gentle loving little guy with tons of personality
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:17 PM
Oct 2015

He is so much fun. It pleases me to no end that they used that term to describe Bernie. I love that description too.

Response to madfloridian (Reply #5)

pacalo

(24,721 posts)
9. Thank goodness for social media!
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:45 PM
Oct 2015

If I depended solely on the MSM to formulate my opinion, I wouldn't have given Bernie any thought.

And considering what all I've learned since 2001 on the internet, I know not to pay attention to what the media is prodding us to think. Their big interests are at stake.

Thanks, madfloridian! You always put a lot of effort into your posts.


jwirr

(39,215 posts)
17. All we have to do to see that this is different is ask ourselves
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:11 PM
Oct 2015

how long it has been since we actually talked issues in a presidential campaign. Bernie has set the tone for this.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
21. You know what? There are lots of pictures keyed to ridicule either candidate.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:22 PM
Oct 2015

Most of us do not use them.

 

That Guy 888

(1,214 posts)
24. So there will be nothing snarky about Bernie Sanders in the Hillary Clinton group?
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 09:53 PM
Oct 2015

The link you provided is to a post in the Bernie Sanders group not General Discussions: Primary. In order to avoid flame wars, I closed myself off from the Hillary group, you might consider trashing the Bernie Sanders group as per http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1013&pid=4733 (Tips for Surviving Primary Season on Democratic Underground)

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
39. What a hypocrite.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:04 PM
Oct 2015

You have no right to ever complain about another Bernie supporter starting tonight.

Congratulations on joining the mob of sneerers.



beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
45. At least I'm not pretending to be better than everyone else while wallowing in the muck.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:10 PM
Oct 2015

How's the view?

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
46. I'm not any better than anyone on here. And I certainly don't pretend to be.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:12 PM
Oct 2015

It's primary season, buckle up.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
48. Yes you do, you're known for your sneering lectures to Bernie supporters about their behaviour.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:14 PM
Oct 2015

It's your thang and now that your cover's blown at least you can stop pretending.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
58. It was a Hillary supporter who went over the line and called someone an "ass"...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:43 PM
Oct 2015

I called them on it and they self deleted.

Agschmid

(28,749 posts)
60. No problem.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:50 PM
Oct 2015

I'm not as terrible as some make me out to be. But I sure as hell am not perfect either.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
34. So this is the real Agschmid.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:48 PM
Oct 2015

Good to see you finally revealing your true colours.

Stay classy and keep taking the low road.


 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
63. It's our fault, MF
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:53 AM
Oct 2015

You know how the saying goes, nature abhors a vacuum? well, there's not much more vacuous than posts like the one agschmid came up with, so there's this, like... urge to fill that vast, empty void.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
62. Nosebleed seats tend to look like that.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 04:47 AM
Oct 2015

Here's what it usually looks like down at the 1 atmosphere level:

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madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
55. Wow, I am reading new threads now condemning creative supporters, AND
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 11:32 PM
Oct 2015

muddying up the term "revolution" because it is not sedate and geared enough to establishment politics.

Well, guess what. When the entire "establishment" is going all out for one candidate, and the media overall is as well....then any kind of campaign must by nature be a "revolution".

It's starting to sound like 2003-04 all over again.

madfloridian

(88,117 posts)
61. Bernie's words tonight about the TPP...so true.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 02:17 AM
Oct 2015
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/10/25/us/politics/in-iowa-bill-clinton-denounces-hit-strategy.html?_r=0

He also took aim at the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the free trade pact among Pacific nations that Mrs. Clinton recently came out against after calling it “the gold standard” of trade agreements while she was secretary of state.

“It is not now, nor has it ever been, the gold standard of trade agreements,” Mr. Sanders said. “I did not support it yesterday. I do not support it today. And I will not support it tomorrow.”
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