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reformist2

(9,841 posts)
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:21 PM Oct 2015

Is there a connection between the massive campaign dollars and the incessant cheering for Hillary?

I think one would be naïve to think that all the enthusiasm for Hillary was honest and heartfelt. In this day and age, faux supporters and slanted polls are probably more important than slick television ad campaigns. But unlike the television ads, you don't really want to broadcast the truth that a lot of the "opinions" being thrown around in the social media are actually secretly planted campaign messages. And illegal, since these messages lack any acknowledgement of funding.

Where do all today's campaign dollars *really* go? There's a Pulitzer Prize waiting for the journalist willing to turn over that giant rotten log.

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Is there a connection between the massive campaign dollars and the incessant cheering for Hillary? (Original Post) reformist2 Oct 2015 OP
Such as buying fake Facebook friends and Twitter followers? arcane1 Oct 2015 #1
Hillary just bought drinks for everyone!!! JoePhilly Oct 2015 #2
and one for herself ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #64
Lol, of COURSE there is. The only real candidate for the people is the one standing alone against sabrina 1 Oct 2015 #3
Incessant? Agschmid Oct 2015 #4
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You're lowering expectations for Sanders wyldwolf Oct 2015 #6
I can't tell what is a serious observation and sufrommich Oct 2015 #7
You guys have like anti-Hillary tic syndrome. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #8
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FOURTEEN TIMES. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #14
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If my aunt had wheels she would be a car... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #24
you make no sense. wendylaroux Oct 2015 #75
My post made absolute sense... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #84
I love Liz Warren. She's not running. Get over it. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #27
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You forgot DLC, third way LuvLoogie Oct 2015 #32
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IDGAF who you support. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #35
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Warren urged Hillary to run and thinks she is terrific. NYC Liberal Oct 2015 #44
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Not a mistake. She is a progressive Democrat who supports another progressive Democrat NYC Liberal Oct 2015 #50
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Like being a republican until 1996? ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #65
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14 times? wendylaroux Oct 2015 #73
Very Serious People. JaneyVee Oct 2015 #74
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I give you about two hours. Agschmid Oct 2015 #41
Nailed it :) Agschmid Oct 2015 #89
Hasn't the constant meme been ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #9
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Don't make yourself feel special ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #48
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you show THAT wendylaroux Oct 2015 #71
Before acceptance comes denial, anger, bargaining, depression. upaloopa Oct 2015 #16
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You are welcome. upaloopa Oct 2015 #21
Just the same six people getting madder and madder Fearless Oct 2015 #25
A Pulitzer Prize win for finding where all the campaign funds go is available quarterly on-line so Fred Sanders Oct 2015 #11
What the hell are you saying? Hillary paid Gowdy to have her appear before the Benghazi committee upaloopa Oct 2015 #13
Like all conspiracy theories ,the amount of people involved sufrommich Oct 2015 #17
Book mark that ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #26
Well, I hope you're proud of yourself ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #46
I must make amends. If only Hillary would send a little more cash my way I will upaloopa Oct 2015 #57
Call HRC's HQ ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #68
All those people who work on Wall Street paid for Howdy Gowdy I think. upaloopa Oct 2015 #83
Oh crap ... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #63
50%???? NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #77
Oops...you're supposed to say there is no enthusiasm for her! zappaman Oct 2015 #15
They've moved on ... NanceGreggs Oct 2015 #52
If it seems like that to you treestar Oct 2015 #18
Maybe a walk would help Skidmore Oct 2015 #22
I am being plied with wine and nubile young women as we speak. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #23
Wow I just sent Hillary 10 bucks workinclasszero Oct 2015 #28
why send her 10 bucks? wendylaroux Oct 2015 #69
Bragger! leftofcool Oct 2015 #42
If I was bragging I would have told about the open tab at Ruth's Chris and the junkets to Vegas DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #49
The right hates Hillary. The fringe left hates Hillary... SidDithers Oct 2015 #29
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... SidDithers Oct 2015 #38
There is a certain familiarity with your interlocutor if I may say so. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #56
You're not the only one who thinks so... SidDithers Oct 2015 #58
He seems to very comfortable here. DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #62
A shoe with some dog shit on it ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #66
It is better to make a friend than an enemy... DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #67
that all you got? wendylaroux Oct 2015 #79
Give it time... SidDithers Oct 2015 #82
He's looking at it from a Canadian POV. nt grasswire Oct 2015 #76
That about sums it up. Beacool Oct 2015 #88
I have all the respect in the world for Bernie Sanders thelordofhell Oct 2015 #30
OH ...... ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #39
No RandySF Oct 2015 #34
As DemocratSinceBirth Oct 2015 #37
Buying an election is expensive. Monetarily and ethically. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #53
is that the new talking point? ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #54
Actually an old talking point. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #59
Oh ronnykmarshall Oct 2015 #60
For a group of people that insists on not being called conspiracy nuts NuclearDem Oct 2015 #61
Amen. NurseJackie Oct 2015 #72
YA THINK???????? elehhhhna Oct 2015 #70
What posts like this demonstrate BainsBane Oct 2015 #85
As for massive dollars BainsBane Oct 2015 #86
Well they're all her volunteers...... Historic NY Oct 2015 #87

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
3. Lol, of COURSE there is. The only real candidate for the people is the one standing alone against
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:27 PM
Oct 2015

this huge MONEY MACHINE that is taking over our system.

HE is the only one with the guts to refuse their bribes.

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JaneyVee

(19,877 posts)
8. You guys have like anti-Hillary tic syndrome.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:36 PM
Oct 2015

Mouth diarrhea. Perhaps Bernie's numbers wouldn't be so subpar if ya'll spent more time explaining socialism and propping up your candidate to the American people instead of trying to tear down a woman who was voted most admired woman in the world 14x.

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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
24. If my aunt had wheels she would be a car...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:02 PM
Oct 2015

If Ron Jeremy had a normal endowment he would still be a special education teacher in New York city, lol


^^^^^^^

Now that is something you would never expect to find on a political message board.

ADMIRE THAT

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
84. My post made absolute sense...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:37 PM
Oct 2015

Please read s-l-o-w-l-y.

you make no sense Ron Jeremy?



My interlocutor said if Elizabeth Warren would have run against Hillary Clinton she would have won the nomination. I merely pointed out the inefficacy of the word "if". Ron Jeremy owes his prolific career in pornography to his his above average endowment. If he had an average endowment he would still be a special education teacher in New York City, ergo:




Jeremy attended Cardozo High School in Bayside, Queens, where former CIA director George Tenet and actor Reginald VelJohnson were his classmates.[7][8] Jeremy earned a bachelor's degree in education and theatre and a master's degree in special education from Queens College in New York.[9] He taught special-education classes in the New York City area and was a substitute teacher for regular classes.[10]


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ron_Jeremy


And in that vein, if my uncle had wings he would be a bird.



what are you watching tonite?


Television, Despite your implication or inference I am not really into Ron Jeremy's work, at least not in the last twenty five or so years.

Reading is fundamental.

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LuvLoogie

(7,014 posts)
32. You forgot DLC, third way
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:19 PM
Oct 2015

And a few other increasingly maudlin terms which have lost their impact here on DU.

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NYC Liberal

(20,136 posts)
50. Not a mistake. She is a progressive Democrat who supports another progressive Democrat
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:41 PM
Oct 2015

for president.

I support real Democrats like Hillary, not Johnny-Come-Latelies who trash the party for years until they decide they want to be president and need the $$$.

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NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
9. Hasn't the constant meme been ...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:36 PM
Oct 2015

... that there is no enthusiasm for Hillary? I've read that here countless times.

So now there is enthusiasm, but it's not "honest and heartfelt".

How many such baseless memes will be posted before people accept that more people support HRC than BS? It's really as simple as that.

It happens every primary - voters choose to support one candidate over the others.

I don't understand why this simple fact eludes some folks.

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upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
16. Before acceptance comes denial, anger, bargaining, depression.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:45 PM
Oct 2015

Some Bernie folks are in denial and some have moved to anger. I think anger is why we have such weird OP's today.

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Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
11. A Pulitzer Prize win for finding where all the campaign funds go is available quarterly on-line so
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:41 PM
Oct 2015

is not likely, but the corruption of CU is only just beginning to be evident.

What needs to be done is keeping control of the White House getting back Congress from the feces-throwers.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
13. What the hell are you saying? Hillary paid Gowdy to have her appear before the Benghazi committee
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:42 PM
Oct 2015

so she could get some incessant cheering and more donations?

Hillary paid Anderson Cooper to rig the debate so she could get some incessant cheering and donations?

Hillary paid Joe Biden to drop out so she could get some incessant cheering and donations?

Hillary paid Rachel Maddow to interview her so she could get some incessant cheering and donations?

Hillary paid for the polls that said she won the debate so she could get some incessant cheering and donations?

Hillary paid everyone in NC to vote for her in the next poll so she could get some incessant cheering and donations?

Hillary paid people in NH to vote for her in the latest poll so she could get some incessant cheering and donations?

Hillary paid the people in IA to vote for her in the latest poll so she could get some incessant cheering and donations?


Does it make sense to pay someone so you get their contribution? How much is the net contribution? Let's see Hillary pays me 25 bucks so I will give her 50 bucks netting 25 bucks.





sufrommich

(22,871 posts)
17. Like all conspiracy theories ,the amount of people involved
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:46 PM
Oct 2015

and keeping their mouths shut about it is mind boggling. Apparently Rachel Maddow is in on it too:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027286180

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
46. Well, I hope you're proud of yourself ...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:36 PM
Oct 2015

... giving away the game plan.

Obviously you didn't check off all of the boxes when you sent in your last HRC donation:


( ) Please send the check reimbursing me for my donation to the above address.

( ) I agree to fake being honest and heartfelt in my enthusiasm.




You apparently didn't read the fine print at the bottom:

( ) YES, I want the $1,000 bonus in exchange for keeping my mouth shut about how HRC is paying people to maintain her front-runner status!


Loose lips, sinking ships, and all that. Button it up, upaloopa!

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
68. Call HRC's HQ ...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:13 PM
Oct 2015

They offer all kinds of cash reimbursement options.

I understand that contacting Anderson Cooper before the debate and demanding softball questions for HRC was good for a $10-per-call reimbursement.

BS was probably paying more than that per on-line clicks - which explains why he appeared to do so well in those particular "polls".

Sadly, the funds needed to pay off Howdy Gowdy was out of my price range. Only the Big-Buck donors had the cash-on-hand needed to "convince" him to hold Thursday's hearing. But it was money well spent, and I thank those who were able to pony-up the necessary funds.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
83. All those people who work on Wall Street paid for Howdy Gowdy I think.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:28 PM
Oct 2015

By the way everyone of the people who work on Wall Street who gave money to Hillary are corporate CEO's and corporate officers. And their corporations gave the money since they are not really people.

ronnykmarshall

(35,356 posts)
63. Oh crap ...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:02 PM
Oct 2015

I forgot to do that this week.

I need to update my donation check list

What interest rate are we getting on our donations? Last quarter I got 50%.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
77. 50%????
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:22 PM
Oct 2015

You are such a schmuck!




I got 75% on my last - ahem - "donation", along with a thousand air-miles and dinner-for-two at the restaurant of my choice!

* Note on the dinner-for-two offer - they only covered three bottles of wine. We were charged for additional wine and pre-dinner cocktails, and got hit with a 50-cent "service fee" on any menu substitutions. Just so's ya know.

NanceGreggs

(27,815 posts)
52. They've moved on ...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:44 PM
Oct 2015

... from "no" enthusiasm to no "honest and heartfelt" enthusiasm, i.e. "bought-and-paid-for enthusiasm".

Those poll numbers are getting more and more difficult to explain, so a different tack has become necessary.

treestar

(82,383 posts)
18. If it seems like that to you
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 06:47 PM
Oct 2015

I would say you are overly stuck on your own opinion as being the only possible one.

SidDithers

(44,228 posts)
29. The right hates Hillary. The fringe left hates Hillary...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:06 PM
Oct 2015

and they're both pretty fucking hilarious.



Sid

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DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
67. It is better to make a friend than an enemy...
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:08 PM
Oct 2015

Maybe if we are nice to the lad he will see the error of his ways.

Beacool

(30,250 posts)
88. That about sums it up.
Sun Oct 25, 2015, 01:36 AM
Oct 2015

I come here for the laughs. This site is so anti-Hillary that it can't be taken seriously anymore.

thelordofhell

(4,569 posts)
30. I have all the respect in the world for Bernie Sanders
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:07 PM
Oct 2015

Some of his followers, however, leave me speechless sometimes. What weird part of the internet do some of these bizarre conspiracy theories come from?? I'm thinking it's the "Ron Paul" wing of the Democratic Party at work........

DemocratSinceBirth

(99,710 posts)
37. As
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:24 PM
Oct 2015

As Madame Secretary rises in the polls I expect the attacks on her and her supporters to become increasingly more untethered from reality as they grow exponentially.

We Hillary Clinton supporters are exemplars to the world and it is incumbent upon us to rise above them.
 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
53. Buying an election is expensive. Monetarily and ethically.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:44 PM
Oct 2015

The leaders in polls are usually well endowed with money and "dead broke" in ethics.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
59. Actually an old talking point.
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:56 PM
Oct 2015

And, one that arises every election when the wealthy and corporations fork over millions to buy elections. And, unethical candidates take it.

 

NuclearDem

(16,184 posts)
61. For a group of people that insists on not being called conspiracy nuts
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 07:59 PM
Oct 2015

you guys sure do insist everything is a conspiracy.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
85. What posts like this demonstrate
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:38 PM
Oct 2015

Is an impenetrable sense of entitlement that enables you to dismiss as fraudulent any view and life experience that doesn't mirror your own. Some people who have been members of this site for years support Clinton, yet you insist we are plants because we have the audacity to disagree with you. It is that attitude far too common among Sanders supporters that explains why their candidate has not been able to broaden his support base. No one responds favorably to such treatment. Quite the opposite, which is why you are losing supporters.

When I see people repeat time and time again that Sanders is the only candidate supported by real people, it shows how little respect they have for their fellow citizens, so little we aren't even people. It becomes impossible to believe such people care about equality when they show time and time again that they have nothing but contempt for anyone who differs from themselves.

This campaign has been going on for months, yet we see next to no discussion of Sanders policies on this site. Instead, the only thing people seem to care about is expressing utter contempt for their fellow citizens. And we learn it is not limited to the internet. CNN reported on the news that Sanders supporters are currently in Iowa heckling and insulting Clinton supporters. Not even the least politically astute person could possibly think that kind of behavior helps increase support for their candidate, yet they do it anyway. That toxicity will be the lasting legacy of his campaign.

You are not better than the rest of Americans, not by a long shot.

BainsBane

(53,035 posts)
86. As for massive dollars
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 08:54 PM
Oct 2015

Bernie's not doing so bad himself. He raised $26 million to Clinton's $33 million last quarter. Yet I guess you think that $7 million explains the 26 point lead Clinton averages over him.

Historic NY

(37,451 posts)
87. Well they're all her volunteers......
Sat Oct 24, 2015, 10:18 PM
Oct 2015

you know the young people that were out on the street before the sun rose. Some from college others moved out west to help. Hillary's boots on the ground.

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