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Purveyor

(29,876 posts)
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 05:26 PM Oct 2015

Clinton Wants Obama To Confront Putin In Syria

By Josh Rogin, Bloomberg News
Posted Oct. 18, 2015, at 10:07 a.m.

Hillary Clinton took a big step away from President Obama’s foreign policy at Tuesday night’s debate, challenging him to resist Russia’s intervention in the Syrian war. She also recast her call for a Syrian no-fly zone, saying it is needed to fight President Vladimir Putin’s aggression.

“We have to stand up to his bullying, and specifically in Syria, it is important,” Clinton said. “I think it’s important too that the United States make it very clear to Putin that it’s not acceptable for him to be in Syria creating more chaos, bombing people on behalf of Assad, and we can’t do that if we don’t take more of a leadership position, which is what I’m advocating.”

As of last week, Clinton had been open to the idea of working with Russia. On Oct. 6, Clinton discussed her support for a no-fly zone, saying “the Russians would have to be part of it, or it wouldn’t work.” On Tuesday, after Putin’s aggression, she said a no-fly zone would make sense “because I’m trying to figure out what leverage we have to get Russia to the table.”

Three administration officials told me that since the Russian bombing began, the Islamic State has expanded its territory in and around Syria’s biggest city, Aleppo, taking about eight villages from other opposition groups. “We have seen ISIL make progress based on Russian airstrikes,” Army Col. Steve Warren told reporters in a video briefing from Baghdad Monday. One senior administration official said Tuesday that Russian strikes against the Islamic State are scarce, and that the Syrian government is not striking Islamic State targets.

The Obama administration has not yet responded to Russia’s attacks on U.S.-supported rebels. Over the weekend, the U.S. dropped 50 tons of ammunition to groups fighting the Islamic State in northeastern Syria, but none to the groups that are being inundated by Syrian government forces and Russian air power near the cities of Aleppo, Idlib and Hama. But there is some evidence in recent days American allies have been increasing arms shipments to the rebels targeted by Russia.

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https://bangordailynews.com/2015/10/18/opinion/contributors/clinton-wants-obama-to-confront-putin-in-syria/

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Clinton Wants Obama To Confront Putin In Syria (Original Post) Purveyor Oct 2015 OP
Rattle that saber! nt Erich Bloodaxe BSN Oct 2015 #1
+1 AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #13
Her No-fly Zone would doubtless do the trick 99th_Monkey Oct 2015 #2
Wonderful ... TheFarS1de Oct 2015 #3
Okay then... moondust Oct 2015 #4
Hillarambo. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #5
Well, she DID endorse McCain's foreign policy over Obama's in '08 Scootaloo Oct 2015 #6
Wow,when will this Lady ever learn. Wellstone ruled Oct 2015 #7
Here is someone who belongs as far from Commander in Chief as can be arranged. TheKentuckian Oct 2015 #8
i am sure if she just tells putin restorefreedom Oct 2015 #9
Dear Mrs.Clinton silenttigersong Oct 2015 #10
She doesn't have a son. nt stevenleser Oct 2015 #14
silenttigersong clearly meant son in-law jfern Oct 2015 #19
She doesn't have a son. She has a daughter. MADem Oct 2015 #20
Brilliant! Let's get into another we can lose. And, build more monuments to the cannon fodder. Tierra_y_Libertad Oct 2015 #11
Lucrative 'gig' if you can get in on it... eom Purveyor Oct 2015 #12
I disagree with both Obama and Hillary's positions on Syria. I think Obama in particular has missed stevenleser Oct 2015 #15
Like other neocons Hillary prefers an Isis state over Assad! betterdemsonly Oct 2015 #16
This primary feels like the general election jfern Oct 2015 #18
No more warmongering! jfern Oct 2015 #17

moondust

(20,014 posts)
4. Okay then...
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 05:50 PM
Oct 2015

we'll just declare a no-fly zone and start shooting down those Russian warplanes which, incidentally, are there with the approval of the officially recognized government of Syria. What could possibly go wrong?

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
6. Well, she DID endorse McCain's foreign policy over Obama's in '08
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 05:59 PM
Oct 2015

Guess she hasn't evolved on that one.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
7. Wow,when will this Lady ever learn.
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 06:37 PM
Oct 2015

Kissing the Neo-Con ring ain't going to do it Hilllary. Your Neo-Con Bud's at State are still trying to do a failed Geo-Political Policy. Wake the Hell up. Enough of this Constant War Crap. Let Putin get his ass mired in a no win situation.

TheKentuckian

(25,029 posts)
8. Here is someone who belongs as far from Commander in Chief as can be arranged.
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 07:15 PM
Oct 2015

The "experience" isn't helping the judgment even a teensy tiny bit we know you can't fix stupid and thankfully we don't have that problem but wrong-headed and naturally belligerent and imperious don't fix much easier.

Clinton does not have even the baseline temperament or natural restraint to be trusted with the keys to the empire and it shows over and over and over again particularly when in this area she can see John McShame and David Betrayus from her ideological house.

Then at home the person who still supports the so called Patriot Act and the stupid and failed drug war while snarling about whistle blowers will be nominating the AG, judges, and powerful administrators.

BRILLIANT!

silenttigersong

(957 posts)
10. Dear Mrs.Clinton
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 08:47 PM
Oct 2015

Please encourage your son to join the military,instead of managing hedge funds.Right now you are sounding like a Chickenhawk.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
20. She doesn't have a son. She has a daughter.
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 03:13 AM
Oct 2015

Her daughter is a new mother--not the best time for her to join the services.

You do realize we're in the midst of a HUGE drawdown? Uniformed personnel are leaving service at a swift clip.

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
15. I disagree with both Obama and Hillary's positions on Syria. I think Obama in particular has missed
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 10:45 PM
Oct 2015

an opportunity.

If Putin wants this one so much, I think we should let Putin own it. Let him own a messy civil war (which he doesn't seem to be able to help the Syrians win battles in so far) and let him own the fight against ISIS.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
18. This primary feels like the general election
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 01:31 AM
Oct 2015

If George W Bush was trying to do this, most people on this site would be outraged.

jfern

(5,204 posts)
17. No more warmongering!
Mon Oct 19, 2015, 01:23 AM
Oct 2015

Confronting Putin is an idea only idiotic warmongers support. Is she really advocating shooting down Russian planes? That's Dr. Stangelove level of craziness.

Really, we are not needed there. Our $2 trillion Iraq war has destroyed our credibility in the area.

Aside from possibly helping the Kurds a little, we shouldn't be doing a damn thing in Syria. I mean why would we want to take sides in a 3-way war between Putin, Al Qaeda, and ISIS?

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