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RBInMaine

(13,570 posts)
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:41 PM Oct 2015

Hillary Clinton is a brilliant super-qualified PROGRESSIVE candidate who will most likely win.

She is brilliant. She is progressive. She is HIGHLY qualified. She will most likely be the nominee.

Both Sanders and Clinton had a good debate night. Both are to be congratulated. The SCIENTIFIC polling shows Hillary Clinton WON and by a LOT. Not to say Sanders didn't do well. Again, he did. But on the whole she won the debate with a SPOT ON performance.

Bernie Sanders is a good man who won't win because a self-declared socialist CAN NOT WIN the general election. It defies ANY understanding of this nation's political culture to think otherwise. Denmark is a nice place, but we sure as all hell ain't Denmark.

I like Bernie. I give him huge credit. I applaud his candidacy. But he can't win and won't win the nomination let alone the general election because his ideology is simply is TOO far to the left.

Hillary is progressive, is WAY ahead in the primary race polls nationally, and is back even or now ahead in New Hampshire. The stakes are high. The REPUBLICANS are the target. Just imagine a nut like Trump in the White House, or ANY of those CLOWNS.

Hillary will win the nomination. She can beat ANY of the Republican CLOWNS. And Bernie would be great as Secretary of Labor or HUD.

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Hillary Clinton is a brilliant super-qualified PROGRESSIVE candidate who will most likely win. (Original Post) RBInMaine Oct 2015 OP
then you have nothing to worry about ibegurpard Oct 2015 #1
. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #2
Keep telling yourself that..... daleanime Oct 2015 #3
No Clinton is a Progressive... TheProgressive Oct 2015 #4
Yep. SusanCalvin Oct 2015 #7
+1 MissDeeds Oct 2015 #21
Amen....I will vote for her in the general but I am under no delusion about her being a Progressive. yourout Oct 2015 #36
Which step is bargaining? aidbo Oct 2015 #5
She is a centrist in progressive clothing Rosa Luxemburg Oct 2015 #6
Hillary a progressive? You must be trippin...put down the shrooms. InAbLuEsTaTe Oct 2015 #8
Mmmmm hmmmm NervousGuy Oct 2015 #9
Hillary is a progressive in the same way Bristol Palin is a virgin. Scuba Oct 2015 #10
A progressive? You should tell Hillary Broward Oct 2015 #11
"because his ideology is simply is TOO far to the left." - You can't be fucking serious. Scootaloo Oct 2015 #12
This OP must be a conservative. Broward Oct 2015 #13
Wait a minute! How can Bernie be too far to the left when Hillary winter is coming Oct 2015 #17
They're trying to have it both ways, as usual jfern Oct 2015 #26
Shes a "progressive" hifiguy Oct 2015 #14
Don't tell us tblue Oct 2015 #15
Well, shit. This woman disagrees. AtomicKitten Oct 2015 #16
Thanks I was going to quote her but you did this first :-) bkkyosemite Oct 2015 #31
CNN: "Clinton 'pleads guilty' to being a moderate" aikoaiko Oct 2015 #18
heh. from the same poster who assured us that LePage wouldn't get 4 more years magical thyme Oct 2015 #19
Hillary is about as progressive as Jeb. Same ticket. leveymg Oct 2015 #20
But look at these big crowds!... onehandle Oct 2015 #22
I guess Harold Ford is a Progressive too. JRLeft Oct 2015 #23
Can you send me some of sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #24
Bernie Sanders MFM008 Oct 2015 #25
Just to keep you informed: sadoldgirl Oct 2015 #28
If in your heart you support her because she's a woman, not because she's the best candidate... highprincipleswork Oct 2015 #37
Post removed Post removed Oct 2015 #27
Riddle Me This - How Can A Right-Leaning Democrat Be Called Progressive cantbeserious Oct 2015 #29
Because like all good Republicans they excel at Frank Luntzian wordsmithery. They expropriate what Ed Suspicious Oct 2015 #32
Yes - Too True - Sad That Others Are Blinded By The Obfuscating Rhetoric cantbeserious Oct 2015 #34
And she supports unicorns and rainbows! longship Oct 2015 #30
The Hillary is not even close to being a Progressive. in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #33
^^^ This ^^^ cantbeserious Oct 2015 #35
Hillary progressive - heehee 840high Oct 2015 #38
Wow No Shit, Wow I did not know that, that changes my vote I will now no longer support YabaDabaNoDinoNo Oct 2015 #39

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
1. then you have nothing to worry about
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:42 PM
Oct 2015

I suggest you chill out. Surely these constant rants aren't good for your blood pressure.

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
5. Which step is bargaining?
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:44 PM
Oct 2015
Hillary will win the nomination. She can beat ANY of the Republican CLOWNS. And Bernie would be great as Secretary of Labor or HUD.

Rosa Luxemburg

(28,627 posts)
6. She is a centrist in progressive clothing
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:44 PM
Oct 2015

yes she is fairly progressive on a few issues but she will mostly return to her centrist ways if elected.

winter is coming

(11,785 posts)
17. Wait a minute! How can Bernie be too far to the left when Hillary
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:06 PM
Oct 2015

takes a back seat to no one when it comes to being a progressive? When just last week, the talking point was that their platforms are essentially the same?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
14. Shes a "progressive"
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 09:59 PM
Oct 2015

in exactly the same way that I am fully capable of flapping my arms and flying to the moon.

 

AtomicKitten

(46,585 posts)
16. Well, shit. This woman disagrees.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:05 PM
Oct 2015

"Ya know, I get accused of being kind of moderate and center. I plead guilty."

aikoaiko

(34,185 posts)
18. CNN: "Clinton 'pleads guilty' to being a moderate"
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:08 PM
Oct 2015

Her latest declaration is that she is center and moderate.

Columbus, Ohio (CNN)Hillary Clinton confessed Thursday to something liberals have long suspected: being a moderate Democrat.

"You know, I get accused of being kind of moderate and center," Clinton told the audience at a Women for Hillary event in Ohio. "I plead guilty."


I expect her to maintain her her position to the right of Obama.
 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
19. heh. from the same poster who assured us that LePage wouldn't get 4 more years
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:14 PM
Oct 2015

because Michaud would win. meh.

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
20. Hillary is about as progressive as Jeb. Same ticket.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:23 PM
Oct 2015

Either way Wall Street has covered its bets and we lose.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
22. But look at these big crowds!...
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:37 PM
Oct 2015

12-20,000+ person 'super-rallies.'



Oh, wait. That's Ralph Nader in 2000.

Never mind.

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sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
24. Can you send me some of
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:48 PM
Oct 2015

what you are smoking, please.?

It has sent you up into the clouds obviously.

Man, and I can buy pot in my state, but that
would never give me that kind of a trip!

MFM008

(19,823 posts)
25. Bernie Sanders
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 10:55 PM
Oct 2015

cannot win the purple states. period. If you think we can win without Virginia, Ohio, Iowa, or Colorado guess again. Frankly I dont like any of the cantidates, Im sick of OLD white guys. Biden and Sanders will be 74 at election time. Hillarys to old for my taste when there are so many young and vibrant democrats
. However, Im older and want to see a woman presdient. If Merkle can run Europe, Clinton can run the USA.

sadoldgirl

(3,431 posts)
28. Just to keep you informed:
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 11:00 PM
Oct 2015

The poor Angela is i a lot of trouble and may not make
it through the next election. You are aware, of course,
that she is not president and is totally dependent not
only on her party, but the Social Democrats as well.

Oh dear, did I dare to mention The Social Democratic
Party?! What a crime!

 

highprincipleswork

(3,111 posts)
37. If in your heart you support her because she's a woman, not because she's the best candidate...
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 12:11 AM
Oct 2015

I'd like to see a woman President too. Elizabeth Warren? In a second. Hillary, not so much. Because I know she is not going to take care of my interests anymore than I would now expect Bill Clinton to do so.

Bernie? Yes, he speaks my language on just about anything.

Can he win? Of course he can. If enough people support him. And, if you haven't noticed, his support has grown mightily since he first began. Not only that, but there's lots of available evidence that Republicans everywhere are seriously considering his candidacy in a way that I can't even imagine them doing the same for Hillary.

Second step, get better known. That's why more debates.

Why we would try to shut down debates, give away free publicity, give away the chance to test our candidates, for everyone to know more precisely where they stand? No, the only reason fewer debates make sense if it you'd like to protect the better known frontrunner, who happens to be Hillary.

And finally, if you are for Hillary mostly or just because she is a woman, who is actually hurting our chances to win the next election?

Response to RBInMaine (Original post)

Ed Suspicious

(8,879 posts)
32. Because like all good Republicans they excel at Frank Luntzian wordsmithery. They expropriate what
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 11:23 PM
Oct 2015

doesn't belong to them and make it their own. If we on the left called ourselves purpledeepinkyellowbloobies, they too would in the next couple years become purpledeepinkyellowbloobies.

longship

(40,416 posts)
30. And she supports unicorns and rainbows!
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 11:06 PM
Oct 2015

Unfortunately, so does Bernie.

So what does either candidate have?

My take is that we should all take in everything the candidates have to offer and make our decision based on that.

Note: I listen to positive arguments more than negative ones.

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
33. The Hillary is not even close to being a Progressive.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 11:24 PM
Oct 2015

No DLC/THIRD WAY is NOT Progressive. It's RIGHT OF CENTER.

Just because she says she's Progressive, doesn't mean she is.

Progressives do not support:
Fracking - The Hillary does
The TPP - The Hillary does
Corporations raping our country by not paying taxes - The Hillary does
Prisons for Profits - The Hillary does + takes money from them
Wall St. Greedy thieves who stole $12.8 TRILLION from tax payers - The Hillary does. Her BFFs are Wall St. Thieves

NAFTA and CAFTA - The Hillary does
Punishing Whistleblowers - The Hillary does
Glass-Stegall being repealed - The Hillary does

There's more, but that's more than enough to prove my point. The Hillary is Right if Center, not a Progressive.

 

YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)
39. Wow No Shit, Wow I did not know that, that changes my vote I will now no longer support
Sun Oct 18, 2015, 08:43 AM
Oct 2015

Bernie and support Hillary

Amazing!

One post made me change my mind.

(Insert eye roll)

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Screeds like this only enforce how scared Clinton and her supports truly are of Bernie.



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