Ridicule of Bernie supporters growing after debate...The Atlantic this time. So childishly done.

[madfloridian]

A few paragraphs just do not do this snide piece justice. In fact I doubt any number of paragraphs could make this palatable or intelligent.

Here Comes the Berniebro

The Berniebro is very irate when CNN takes its online poll results down. The Berniebro posts about that, too.

The Berniebro, now that you think about it, seems to spend a lot of time on Facebook? You wonder how that graduate degree and/or startup is going.

......The Berniebro is not every Bernie Sanders supporter. Sanders’s support skews young, but not particularly male. The Berniebro is male, though. Very male.

The Berniebro is someone you may only have encountered if you’re somewhat similar to him: white; well-educated; middle-class (or, delicately, “upper middle-class”); and aware of NPR podcasts and jangly bearded bands.

...The Berniebro is tired of reporters not letting this stupid email scandal go.

....The Berniebro, though steadfastly a Berniebro now, will not always be such. You can sense this. Soon, maybe already, the Berniebro will become a Schoolboardbro. Or a Municipalparkingbro. Or, heaven help us, a Localhistoricaldistrictzoningrestrictionsbro.

There is no purpose behind this piece apparently other than anger at us because it's hard to find ugly stuff about Bernie.

I especially like this paragraph from the comments section:

The media's problem here is that they can't do a character assassination on someone so principled, scandal-free, and consistent. So instead they have to take their pickaxe to Sanders's supporters to make people averse to wanting to be associated with these just absolutely contemptible human beings who dare to vote their conscience rather than as the media tells them to.

So it's just politics as usual: divide and conquer. The media is really sour that it doesn't hold the keys to the crown's case, and that we're not being obedient little worker ants like all the pre-internet generations had to be.

If I were the author of that article I would not take much pride in it.

It is helping to make the divisions in the primary worse for no reason at all.

Robinson Meyer is an associate editor at The Atlantic. I would expect more from someone in that position.

[sarge43]

1. The Atlantic started circling the drain in 2000

when it pictured Al Gore as a vampire on its cover. The accompanied article tried to make a case that he was a ruthless politician. Appears it hasn't changed tactics.

[madfloridian]

2. This article is so snide and childish.

This is what our journalists are becoming.

[reformist2]

47. It damages the reputataion of the Atlantic more than anything. It's astonishingly puerile for them.

[Hortensis]

185. You know "Berniebros" aren't typical ardent Bernie supporters on DU, right?

Look near the end - Berniebros will take new passions on school boards, city councils, etc. They're overwhelmingly male, educated, well enough off. In other words, they're guys this Atlantic writer actually meets in his own life. Notably, Berniebros are portrayed as intensely, and perhaps rather obnoxiously, serious, but not angry and combative.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

62. If the media keep this up, they're gonna regret it.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[sgtbenobo]

114. Some people will do just about anything....

.... for $54,092 a year.

http://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Atlantic-Media-Company-Associate-Editor-Salaries-E39567_D_KO23,39.htm

[rosesaylavee]

151. I looked this person on LinkedIn

He's 2 years out of school - got this job apparently right out of the box. Perhaps he needed some time in the real world before he became employed so he would understand some of the economic policies Sanders has supported for the last few decades.

He's a punk.

[Duval]

165. Right! I had forgotten that, sarge43. Thanks.

[mucifer]

3. They have been tackling some great issues lately ie race and the prison industrial complex.

[madfloridian]

16. They sunk pretty low with this one.

[uhnope]

201. Bernie supporters should show that they can take a joke, take a little ribbing

the outrage at this article shows there's some truth to it

[madfloridian]

202. Our nation's media is a joke. Sick media makes a nation sick.

The author pathetically tried for snark or satire or something. He's lousy at it, and it was insulting.

The media has been on the attack against Hillary for years. Why does that not concern you.

[uhnope]

204. ah jeez. the sky is falling! the sky is falling!

Does it occur to you that one bit of political humor that you didn't find funny does not mean then end of journalism?

Take a chill pill. They will go at Sanders more and more as he gets more and more to be a contender. It's a healthy part of our process, this vetting.

[madfloridian]

215. Your own personal form...

of ridicule. You made your point. Backing off.

[lumberjack_jeff]

4. I don't think "pride" was the authors purpose.

Think paycheck.

[madfloridian]

113. Good point.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

5. My favorite comment, which says what needs to be said

about this stupid, offensive article (far below The Atlantic's usual high standards):

The media's problem here is that they can't do a character assassination on someone so principled, scandal-free, and consistent. So instead they have to take their pickaxe to Sanders's supporters to make people averse to wanting to be associated with these just absolutely contemptible human beings who dare to vote their conscience rather than as the media tells them to.

So it's just politics as usual: divide and conquer. The media is really sour that it doesn't hold the keys to the crown's case, and that we're not being obedient little worker ants like all the pre-internet generations had to be.

Exactly right. It's hard to find much of anything to attack Sanders personally over, so they pile on a perceived stereotype of his supporters.

[99th_Monkey]

9. +1000000!! nt

[TDale313]

25. Absolutely nailed it.

Disgusting how low some who are terrified of a threat to the status quo will go in smearing Bernie and his supporters.

[CoffeeCat]

175. This is part of the elite's Bernie attack...

There are quite s few articles (Slate has published two) positioning Sanders supporters as hipster brats. Now, this from the Atlantic.

This is an attempt to turn off Democrats from supporting Sanders. First, they launch the "Clinton is inevitable" meme. Then comes the, "He can't win a general election" messaging.

Clinton used both tactics against Obama.

Now, Clinton is going after his supporters. Clinton is hoping to make it socially unacceptable to support Zbernie.

This 50-year old mom from the suburbs finds this laughable.

[840high]

30. ...^ that

[cprise]

35. Its easy to do when Clinton's supporters would rather be invisible

and play solitaire instead of being engaged and visible.

Its also very "fair" to attack us, because we keep attacking Clinton's rich donors. LOL

[c588415]

221. Iam a proud to say that I'm a Clinton supporter who believes she will win it all.

Sanders is a class-act, with a lot of good proposals to better our economy. However, he is a little shaky on foreign policy.

[Plucketeer]

38. Indeed!

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This is a new wrinkle to this game that they've never had to contend with before. Imagine the ruckus if Jesus showed up and threw his halo in the ring! My oh my - what would these dweebs write???

[JDPriestly]

72. So true!

[cantbeserious]

40. Spot On - Absolutely Correct

eom

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

63. What's the saying?: If you're taking flak, you're over ther target...something like that.

Bernie & Elizabeth 2016!!!

[mountain grammy]

65. Well said.

I'm disappointed in the Atlantic, who has some fine writers and have taken on some important issues.

How sad they would stoop this low.

[Scuba]

145. /\_/\_This right here_/\_/\

[Sheepshank]

208. Aahhhh, taking one for the gipper

Somehow doesn't fit.

[rynestonecowboy]

224. Exactly!!!!

I'm so sick of hearing the line against Bernie: "I like Bernie Sanders but I can't stand his supporters"

The comment is so dead on, they have been trying so hard to manufacture something on Bernie but have failed and when they have they end up sounding ridiculous. Like this man or not, he is as honest and as straight shooting as they get.

[m-lekktor]

6. Amanda Marcotte called us "the hipster left" in Salon.

The sneering Hillary brigade is getting nasty! I am starting to view them in the same light as I do republicans unfortunately.

[madfloridian]

10. Amanda M. has been off my reading list for a while. From an earlier website.

[m-lekktor]

162. I notice she was a target of the internet mysogynists, the "MRA's", not too long ago.

I wasn't all that familiar with her for some reason until recently and did some research after seeing her name pop up on several very nasty anti-Bernie supporter opinion piece.

[mountain grammy]

68. Yeah, because I'm such a "hipster."

Hippy, maybe, but no hipster..

[elehhhhna]

133. Slate runs a bullshit article telling its readers they're wrong and stupid

About Bernie everyday now.


Then asks for money. Lol.

[m-lekktor]

159. Salon as well it seems! Slate and Salon. nt

[Sheepshank]

209. So they are under the bus?

[m-lekktor]

210. not for me, no. i don't think like that and hate that term. nt

[Sheepshank]

212. Ok...Im beginning to lose track.

I agree there is a better term that could be employed. I just don't know of any off hand that succinctly describes disavowing a person, persons or organization after positively referencing them or even positively quoting them.

Btw...I thought the article in the op to be quite stupid.

[Puglover]

156. The thing that is interesting to me

is that the posters whom are pulling this kind of garbage on DU are posters that I have NEVER had any time for. Since I came here in 2003. Long before "The Bern".

To a poster. No surprises at all.

[m-lekktor]

160. Another apparent long timer here posted something similar. nt

[JackInGreen]

7. I...don't want to show this to the fam

Several women would want to tear this dudes head off.

[appalachiablue]

78. You are a very wise and sensible person. Rubbish, just look at the 'editor's' photo

and bio. He covers technology, not politics which might explain some of the lameness. And going by his photo he's no one to judge a bro or anyone else.

The Atlantic threw this together clearly.

[KoKo]

164. ....! Yep...

I checked out his bio and other articles too...

He threw that one out there just to get attention...He needs to stick to tech stuff which he might know something about and not go near politics.

[appalachiablue]

166. Agree, this associate editor who covers tech was probably thrown the assignment and it shows.

'Berniebro' doesn't even sound right and he's all over the map trying to define it. Let it slide, except the piece if many read it does reflect poorly on The Atlantic.

[Fumesucker]

8. The entire establishment is in the tank for any establishment candidate

It's not a grand conspiracy, it's individuals pursuing their own agendas that just happen to coincide into a nearly seamless fabric.

It's all about the worldview of the people in the media, their perspective is of people who have been successful in the established order of things and anything that would upset the established order is seen as a threat to their livelihood. It's something that is for the most part happening well below conscious thought, a visceral reaction to an economic and social threat.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

17. See, what you said just proves you're a Berniebro!

All that talk about the establishment and the media being against Bernie - pfft! Only an elite over-educated hipster Berniebro could imagine such things!

of course...

[tblue37]

121. BTW, isn't contempt for education the right wing's schtick? Shouldn't a writer for a mag like

The Atlantic be less contemptuous of education?

[Doctor_J]

23. yep. all the big shots are IRATE that Sanders threw a wrench into the gears of the bandwagon

Since Bernie himself is unassailable, childish and completely bogus insults are hurled at those who dare support him instead of the chosen one.

[Baitball Blogger]

11. Sounds like someone wrote it for their Freshman Composition class.

[madfloridian]

12. Doesn't it?

Pretty poor writing.

[ronnykmarshall]

98. A crayon stuck up

a chickens ass could write better. But it might upset the chicken.

[PowerToThePeople]

46. And how would you know?

Are you educated or something, Berniebro?

[Baitball Blogger]

61. Seriously, it sounds like someone is trying too hard to sound cool.

You know the rule of being cool. If you have to try, you're going to miss.

[Major Hogwash]

143. "Am I a hipster doofus, Jerry?"

From Seinfeld, when Kramer was upset about what Elaine had said about him.

[seaglass]

13. It was mostly a stupid article, I think (?) he was trying to be funny. But this was a good point:

"The Berniebro asserts that this country needs highly principled, pie-in-the-sky progressive policies, regardless of how likely they are to become legislation. The Berniebro supports free college for all and a $15 minimum wage.

The Berniebro says we really do have to recognize the realistic policy landscape around guns. We have to think pragmatically. What will rural voters actually support?"

That's the same point that resonated with me during the debate.

[madfloridian]

22. Well, he's worse than I am at being funny.

I never write satire because I'm lousy at it. I can't tell good jokes, and I'm way too serious in my writing.

But at least I know that about myself, someone needs to tell him he's just written a very lousy article.

[seaglass]

27. He's probably getting more hits from your post than anywhere else. It really was a poorly written

article. n/t

[Uncle Joe]

14. Apparently being well educated is now a vice?

Thanks for the thread, madfloridian.

[madfloridian]

15. They did the same thing to Dean supporters in 2004. Called us elite...

posted that most had college degrees, on and on. Only the Pew Poll made it sound like a bad disease or something.

[Uncle Joe]

18. It kind of bucks the message of "A mind is a terrible thing to waste" apparently

the author feels otherwise.

[Peregrine Took]

152. "Latte drinking, Saab driving, Birkenstocks wearing..."

Yikes. Talk about stereotyping.

[Cheese Sandwich]

19. OK I get it. Don't be a Bernie-bro because those people are just weird and annoying

Lame. Poor excuse for "journalism" or whatever it is supposed to be.

How does garbage like this get published.

[senz]

118. Exactly. "It's not cool to be a Bernie supporter."

Marginalize Bernie supporters so that few will want to join them.

The article completely ignores all the fresh, happy, normal faces at Bernie's rallies.

[pa28]

20. The Atlantic is usually a source of thoughtful writing.

I'm used to seeing this kind of content in Salon and that's exactly why I stopped reading. Too bad.

[madfloridian]

116. I always thought of it that way.

This article stunned me.

[aidbo]

21. That article is so cynical and jaded, it's sad.

Bernie Sanders is trying to raise the public consciousness.

Trying to get the public (and yes, the youth! Why not?) engaged in politics.
He wants people discussing issues and voting and thinking!
And people are responding!

But it bothers the author when they log on to their Facebook and they see posts by Berniebro (talk about first world problems) so Berniebro needs to be taken down a peg. They need to be shamed into just letting it go already. (He's got no chance, so just move on to something else)

Oh and the author was good at it too. By the end of the article, I almost hated the Berniebro, and I've never even met one.

Petty and mean spirited.

[madfloridian]

26. Yes, petty and mean-spirited.

[winter is coming]

24. An associate editor? Sounds more like an intern. n/t

[ibegurpard]

28. Is he a member of the DU Hillary crew?

They aren't very good at snark either.

[jalan48]

29. I thought that Koch/NPR had sold out years ago to Wall St. Big Iraq War cheerleaders they were.

[madfloridian]

31. Check out the really nice pic the Atlantic put up with this pathetic piece of writing.

[Cali_Democrat]

36. Did he paint that picture of Bernie himself? nt

[aidbo]

88. And you call Sanders supporters haters.

[senz]

124. +1

Some folks truly radiate it.

[BeanMusical]

173. +2

[MisterP]

101. 14 male, 8 female (counting stylish topknots as female, manbuns look different)

[WorseBeforeBetter]

117. And the only one who looks *remotely* hipster-ish...

is the black guy at the far left.

[MisterP]

120. like I said, no manbuns detected

no half-beards, no RATTED manbuns ...

[Ash_F]

104. White male in the center but pretty diverse group around him. /nt

[blackspade]

144. Look at all the 'bros' in that picture....

Writing is apparently not this author's strong suit....

[plus5mace]

32. The psyops campaign to dismantle the left is interesting.

The establishment Democratic Party is intentionally trying to alienate it's own voters rather than risk losing control. There is a coordinated message campaign to demonize Sanders voters that has been repeated endlessly for months now. For one reason or another, Sander's supporters are personally terrible people who should be shunned. Do they really expect us to remain Democrats after this, or do they just not care?

[GoneFishin]

37. They want a corporatist in the WH, preferably a Democrat, in a pinch a Republican will do. But

definitely not a true progressive, AKA "dirty hippies" according to Rahm Emanuel.

[senz]

128. Very thoughtful comment.

Would make an interesting OP. Welcome to DU, plus5mace.

[madfloridian]

146. ......

[madfloridian]

199. Good thought. Trying to alienate its own voters rather than lose control to the left.

You said:

The establishment Democratic Party is intentionally trying to alienate it's own voters rather than risk losing control.

Food for thought. They did the same in 2004.

[ladyVet]

217. They've had our votes for so long, I don't think they believe we won't keep giving it up.

Thing is, with Bernie Sanders, the left finally has someone to believe in. Bernie is the real deal, not a flip-flopping corporatist.

This election, we're not going to sit down and shut up. We're not going to eat our peas and let them be Republican Lite.

If Bernie doesn't get the nomination, then we should all write his name in on the ballots. Nothing anyone says is going to change my mind. It's Bernie or nobody for me.

I'm a Berner, and proud of it. Insult me all you want, makes no difference. No more choosing the lesser of two evils. It's time for us to stand up -- in our Birkenstocks or worn out Keds -- and vote for the people who will put this country on the correct course.

[Cali_Democrat]

33. LOL!

[Babel_17]

34. I question the rationale for that piece

As the expression goes, "it will be on his permanent record".

[MrMickeysMom]

39. Just reading the comment section...

It reminds me of sane people responding to fist pounding 2 year olds. The lucid remarks mentioned here are the sane ones.

And the article... Cripes! I never was much a reader of that magazine anyway, and now I wouldn't pick up a copy of it if you paid me.

Swirling down the drain cannot be lifted up by such poorly written crap.

[retrowire]

41. Berniebro?

lmao really?

Is this guy a college kid? I'm 27 and have more maturity in my middle finger than that. Wow.

I think bros are more prone to worshipping trumps misogynistic, ego trip ways.

[madfloridian]

50. He's does seem immature, doesn't he?

[Oilwellian]

154. It's right up there with Emoprog

[winter is coming]

42. Just another clumsy attempt to paint Bernie supporters as a niche group.

Somebody's getting desperate.

[jfern]

43. Has any candidate's supporters ever been attacked this much?

Attacking all of your opponents supporters is just begging to lose the general election if the voters are stupid enough to nominate your candidate.

[jwirr]

169. Exactly. The more stuff they pull the more I do not want to

be a Democrat anymore.

[gregcrawford]

44. What this should tell us...

... is how deep the insidious corruption of dynastic politics really is. Let's hope we can strip it bare, expose it, and gut it from groin to gizzard once and for all.

[wyldwolf]

45. given the way they act on DU, it was just a matter of time

[ibegurpard]

48. I agree

That DU Hillary supporters are patronizing, arrogant, and childish.

[jfern]

55. What I learned from Hillary supporters this week

Make shit up
Make shit up
Make shit up

[wyldwolf]

57. Denial ain't just a river in Egypt. National magazines are catching on...

[jfern]

59. You mean the corporate media is making up lies about liberals?

These scorched earth attacks against those who dare oppose Hillary are disgusting.

[wyldwolf]

64. Yeah, that's it (snicker)

[madfloridian]

85. You have gotten much worse about party outsiders since 2004, ww.

That's a shame.

[wyldwolf]

86. party outsiders have gotten so much more outside the party

... like, not being a Democrat at all (Sanders.)

[madfloridian]

89. Anyway, thanks for the rec of the OP.

[wyldwolf]

90. you're welcome! This should definitely be on the 'greatest' page.

[madfloridian]

91. Yes, I think so, too.

[tritsofme]

161. You don't seem to have a problem spreading 10 year old lies

About Hillary and Kyl-Lieberman...I've seen it in more than one place over the last few days alone.

[jfern]

182. Kyl-Lieberman was a terrible bill, and you know it

[tritsofme]

189. Ok, so why do you feel the need to spread lies about it?

Kyl-Lieberman was a sense of the Senate resolution, it is a lie to say it authorized war against Iran.

[jfern]

190. It declared the Iranian military a terrorist organization

And so therefore war could be considered as already authorized because of the war on terror. At the very least it was designed to increase the probability of war with Iran.

[tritsofme]

191. The Senate's unilateral declarations have zero force of law.

As I said, it is the legal equivalent of the Senate passing a resolution congratulating the National Spelling Bee champion.

It was the sense of the Senate, and nothing else. It is a lie to try to assign any legal value, or to claim it authorizes war.

[jfern]

192. It obviously meant something

Are you going to claim the Iraq war resolution didn't mean anything either?

[tritsofme]

193. No, the 2002 AUMF authorized the president to use force in Iraq.

This is disputed by no one.

The AUMF is a public law, and is fundementally different from Kyl-Lieberman, which was a unilateral sense of the Senate resolution.

You should accept this reality and stop spreading a ten year old lie.

[jfern]

195. Well, Kyl-Lieberman was still a very hawkish vote

It's clearly a vote with hawks on one side and more reasonable on the other, and part of an overall pattern of Hillary always choosing the hawk side.

[tritsofme]

196. Thank you, this is fair criticism.

No need to spread lies to make the point.

[Fawke Em]

92. What I learned from Hillary supporters

1. Ignore that there were other measurable stats during and immediately after the debates.
2. Trust the corporate media when they suck up to my candidate.
3. Fuck science. After the media gets through telling everyone what they think even when they don't watch the debates, only THEN is the poll "scientific" in my mind.

[wyldwolf]

94. "only THEN is the poll 'scientific' in my mind." You forgot to add:

"I'm not a scientist but..."

[ronnykmarshall]

95. Oh please....

Take a look at ANY pro-Hillary thread and see how fast the Bernie supporters trash it. I don't care what it's about. The Bernie folks get the Bern Signal and trash it.

Don't give me that bullshit like ALL Bernie supporters walk on water.

[OnyxCollie]

163. This is the Hillary Clinton group.

[IMG][/IMG]

Automated Message: You have been blocked from a group

You have been blocked from posting in the Hillary Clinton group by Little Star. If you believe this is an error, you may contact Little Star for more information.

[ronnykmarshall]

167. So you were blocked from the group?

What's your point?

I wouldn't go into a group dedicated to Bernie and attack him. In fact I would never attack Bernie period.

Did you go in there and start shit?

[OnyxCollie]

171. Start shit?

If a post about how the secret State Department cables that Chelsea Manning released (and is currently serving 35 years in jail for) show that the Clinton State Department pressured the Haitian government to keep slave wages for the benefit of apparel manufacturers who were donors to the Clinton Foundation, and how those same manufacturers, working with the Clinton Foundation, stole the wages of the Haitian workers, then a fact-averse idolizer of Mrs. Inevitability might consider that an "attack."

[BeanMusical]

176. This is their Bernie-hating board:

[ronnykmarshall]

183. Wow that's mature.

Grow up

[BeanMusical]

186. Thank you for your constructive criticism.

You post about a crayon stuck up a chickens' ass wasn't bad either

[ronnykmarshall]

188. I got sort of from Will and Grace ....

Karen and Rosorio were fighting:

Rosario: Listen lady when I get together will the other maids and we "Who works for craziest bitch?" I always win.

Karen: Well I could stick feather duster up a baboons ASS and it would do a better job!

[Marty McGraw]

211. ( ._.)

[madfloridian]

49. Maybe that's why "they" are posting elsewhere.

http://hillaryclintonsupporters.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=12

[wyldwolf]

53. like here?

https://berniesandersforum.com/

[jfern]

56. No one sounds insane there

[wyldwolf]

58. Berniebros. LOL.

[jfern]

60. You are a prime example of why Hillary supporters are the real assholes

[wyldwolf]

67. I hope your keyboard survives your temper tantrum.

The Berniebro doesn’t really have a good answer when you ask why the Democratic Party, which has spent six years explaining how its market-based health care policies aren’t socialist, would ever find national success nominating an actual democratic socialist.

[jfern]

69. Maybe because he has better favorable ratings than your candidate?

And running a scorched earth campaign of attacking all of Bernie's supporters certainly isn't going to help Hillary in the general.

[wyldwolf]

70. oh dear! Here's ANOTHER article about Bernie supporters...

Bernie Sanders’s biggest problem is his fan base

The first Democratic debate, which aired on Oct. 13, was a relatively civilized affair. The candidates were generally congenial, stuck to discussing policy, and even made a conscious point of avoiding personal attacks.

The ensuing commentary, however, has been decidedly less civilized. As with most televised presidential debates, deciding who “won” is always an incredibly important discussion that begins almost immediately after the candidates stop speaking. In this case, the media appear to be in overall agreement: Tuesday night went to former secretary of state Hillary Rodham Clinton, with senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont following closely behind.

Despite the fact that these are obviously subjective assessments, Bernie Sanders’s most vocal supporters—mainly educated, politically leftist white men—have lost their collective minds over what they see as an media-led plot to bring Bernie down.

So much more...

[jfern]

71. That has zero to do with my reply

You're just stirring shit.

[wyldwolf]

73. your reply had zero to do with anything

[senz]

129. Pretty cranky tonight.

Must be past somebody's bedtime.

[TM99]

137. Yes, indeed, cranky enough

to earn themselves a well-deserved time out!

[madfloridian]

80. Oh my, Quartz doesn't care for Bernie or his supporters at all.

He doesn't fit their view of the changing global economy I guess.

Quartz is a digitally native news outlet, born in 2012, for business people in the new global economy. We publish bracingly creative and intelligent journalism with a broad worldview, built primarily for the devices closest at hand: tablets and mobile phones.

Like Wired in the 1990s and The Economist in the 1840s, Quartz embodies the era in which it is being created. The financial crisis that recently engulfed much of the world wasn’t just a cyclical decline or a correction or even a bubble bursting. It was a breaking point. And its shockwaves exposed a fundamentally changed economic order with new leaders and ways of doing business.

Our coverage of this new global economy is rooted in a set of defining obsessions: core topics and knotty questions of seismic importance to business professionals. These are the issues that energize our newsroom, and we invite you to obsess about them along with us. You can always reach us by emailing

I can see why Bernie wouldn't be a favorite there.

http://qz.com/about/welcome-to-quartz

[taught_me_patience]

99. Bernie Persecution syndrome

delusional.

[madfloridian]

74. I don't think I would compare the two of them.

[wyldwolf]

76. of course you wouldn't. Hey, remember what Josh Marshal said about Deaniacs in 2004?

"There is an awfully distressing tendency among a minority of Dean supporters to serve up no end of lacerating comments about other candidates and then to react with a sort of stunned and outraged shock when anyone criticizes their guy. It's the flip side of seeing the race in such heroic, if not messianic dimensions. The primary is actually not concluded yet. And, pace John Calvin, I assume the outcome is not predetermined. So it is still permitted to criticize Mr. Dean and not be an enemy of democracy."

It's fits Sandernistas even better.

[madfloridian]

82. Yes, Josh did ridicule Dean supporters. Many did.

The NEW version of the Democratic party doesn't like Bernie or us....and I don't give a damn about that.

But in 2004 as Bill Clinton said...I fell in love then fell in line.

I've changed since then.

[NervousGuy]

103. Last activity August 24th. So noted. Hint: Sanders supporters doesn't need an echo chamber.

[ctsnowman]

139. Can you show

me the threads where they complain about DU?

TIA

[BeanMusical]

181. First time I hear about this site so I've read many threads at random in all the categories.

Couldn't find a single post viciously trashing Hillary or her supporters so it's really not the same type of board as hillaryclintonsupporters.com where the vast majority of the posts are incredibly nasty toward Bernie and his supporters, mostly the ones here on DU. Equating those two sites is ridiculous at best.

[taught_me_patience]

97. If you're a Democrat and vote anybody but Sanders, you're a coward

Sander's supporters on DU have jumped the shark.

[senz]

131. Aw, you say the nicest things.

[cpompilo]

51. Funny, I couldn't find the word "Commentary" anywhere in the article. So, for this "journalist"

I guess opinion is news. Fitting for Fuk News and the second such opinion hit piece against the Sanders campaign I've seen this week from The Atlantic not labeled as commentary, masquerading as reporting.

[Howler]

54. Wow! Rofl!

Success! They are running scared now. What's the famous quote "first they ignore you,then they laugh at you,then they fight,then you win" or something like that.

[Warpy]

66. Not me, the Atlantic took a hard right in the early 80s

and that's when I dropped my subscription. I'm not at all surprised they've run a Pox News level article like this one.

I'm a little surprised that it's as hamfistedly bad as it is.

[madfloridian]

111. "hamfistedly bad"

[KingCharlemagne]

170. I was around when it happened. I suppose they did so

To try to maintain their circulation numbers during The Age of Reagan. Let my sub lapse then and haven't looked back. Harper's with Lewis Lapham's columns was infinitely better, imo.

[Warpy]

214. Yeah, I kept my sub for a year longer than I should have

but they made it easy for me by dropping the cryptic crossword in the back. After that, there was no justification to keep it.

[PosterChild]

75. But so. Even so....

The Berniebro doesn’t really have a good answer when you ask why the Democratic Party, which has spent six years explaining how its market-based health care policies aren’t socialist, would ever find national success nominating an actual democratic socialist.

One does wonder about that.

[wyldwolf]

102. details! Easily solved with...

[PosterChild]

149. Whoh ! You got me there ! eom

[MFM008]

77. Sanders

will never win, especially in the purple states.
If you think we can win without them your wrong. People hes going to be 75 years old at election.
Joe Biden will be 74. Hillarys a bit younger but where the hell are your young energetic people?
Look at Bill Clinton and Barack Obama, both in their 40s when elected.
I will vote for WHO ever the nominee is but....... CRAP.

[madfloridian]

83. Are you disrespecting the elderly?

[eridani]

138. Sanders will do far better than Clinton in purple states

He is attracting alienated voters. Turnout has been shittier and shittier on off years, and low turnout always hurts us more than Repubs. No teabagger would ever vote for Clinton, but Sanders will be able to peel some of them away--the ones who decide that they hate banksters more than immigrants. Sanders was leading the Republican slate in NH, in fact.

[Thespian2]

79. A person wrote this screed?

I thought it was a production of a thousand cockroaches walking on keyboard keys...

[Art_from_Ark]

155. LOL!

[Ed Suspicious]

81. We are Berniebro. We are legion.

Hillary supporter who mentions Bernie supporter in a negative light is dead to me. The ignore list is about to swell.

[wyldwolf]

84. So when a Sanders supporter tells more tales of conversations at the bar or in the grocery store...

... we can say 'cool story, berniebro!'

LOL.

[BeanMusical]

187. Hum, sorry but that's pretty lame.

[MisterP]

87. far-left toxic masculinity! eeeeeeEEEEEE

Last edited Sun Oct 18, 2015, 03:31 AM - Edit history (2)

maybe they'll keep track of his biceps over the years?
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10027234207

at least now whenever someone mentions "fragile masculinity" we know they're gonna immediately start talking about how Clinton's the only "female candidate," and that insisting on any mere fact is only further exposing one's said fragility

[madfloridian]

93. LOVE this from the newer comments....

The "Berniebro" recognizes that Hillary just spent 6 years straight being targeted by that same "GOP-controlled House of Representatives". You don't need a "Berniebro" to know how that GOP-controlled House of Representatives will "interact" with a President Hillary.

But I'm sure they'll stop if Hillary tells them to "cut it out".

[ronnykmarshall]

96. Which goes to prove

that the internet blogs and so called writers these days are nothing but a bunch of wanna be reporters.

This article isn't worth printing it out and picking my dogs poop with.

[madfloridian]

100. ......

[sabrina 1]

105. The 'attack Bernie SUPPORTERS' routine, is a TACTIC. It's been going on for a while now.

Clearly it came from some expensive Corporate Funded Think Tank, most likely the Third Way itself who absolutely HATE actual Democrats as can be seen in the op two of its founders published in the WSJ when they went after Elizabeth Warren and got so much backlash they won't talk about it anymore.

But you could see the disdain, the sense of entitlement when they disdainfully expressed their horror at Warren DARING to speak out on Wall St corruption etc.

Wagging their finger at her they admonished her with 'this has gone far enough' as if she were a child.

Her response was 'oh please'.

But you can be sure there are meetings and money being spent to try to stop what is happening because they CAN'T CONTROL IT.

They went TOO FAR with their greed and power grabbing and now there is this huge backlash towards them. And they are losing control.

So some genius came up with the 'let's attack his supporters' because they can't attack HIM on the issues.

It's only going to backfire on their chosen candidate. People don't like that kind of nastiness.

And the more it fails, the angrier they get. A lot of money is spent on these tactics. Let them waste it, I love to see Corp money going to waste.

[madfloridian]

106. Yep, they went to far to the right, the backlash is much bigger than they expected.

And since they don't want to include the sweaty masses, their only weapon is ridicule.

[olddots]

107. imagine trying to keep a magazine afloat in 2015

The Atlantic has forgotten who it's freinds are .

[sabrina 1]

109. The only way to keep a magazine afloat these days is to talk about real ISSUES. Not about the

supporters of candidates.

But that tells you it IS an organized tactic. That's what they do. They pay some Think Tank or 'security contractor' like HB Gary eg, to come up some 'tactical meme to go after the 'enemy' with.

Then they use their media to plant it, see Brock trying to plant his filth about Bernie in the media only to be exposed. But that showed how it's done.

Then they send out their bots all over the internet, I see them on Social Media eg, same thing you see here, so you know it's coordinated.

Most people just block them. Hillary supporters must be the most blocked/ignored on the Internet.

[madfloridian]

108. I'm a proud BernieBro or whatever they want to call us.

It's really so obvious it's funny.

[edgineered]

110. We need a daily Weathervane Report -

Today's winds are from the Berniebro direction at gale force and are expected to howl throughout the weekend.

**For those of you with a Weathervane Station on your property, be aware that spin is usually suspended during Kaffee Klatch or War Room events.

[AgingAmerican]

115. That's pathetic

They can't attack Sanders, so they attack his supporters. And in such a childish and very public manor.

It's just pathetic.

[senz]

134. Yes it is.

(Trying to imagine a childish and very public manor...)

[madfloridian]

119. There's just something wrong when a nation holds the educated up to ridicule.

Doesn't matter if it's Berniebros or whatever.

Attacking and labeling intelligent educated people with negative terms defines a country.

[senz]

122. He closes with a particularly nasty slam.

And until Sanders drops out of the race, the Berniebro wants you to #FeeltheBern, too.

The MSM is trying to crush the Bernie Sanders campaign. They're not even hinting.

[madfloridian]

123. It will only get worse.

[senz]

126. You know what that means?

It means we're all going to have to double down and win this thing. Win it twice: first the primary, then the GE, each time against humongous wealth and minuscule ethics. A total uphill fight.

Because if we don't at least get a decent political revolution going, there will be a much worse revolution sometime down the line. They can't keep the people down. The 99% will rise up.

If they knew what's good for them, they would cooperate with Bernie.

Or, to quote a famous conservative:

A nation without the means of reform is without the means of survival.

~ Edmund Burke

[Enthusiast]

125. Bernie is stepping on the toes of big money interests. You ain't seen nothing yet!

Too fucking bad about your fucking toes, you fucking thieves.

[madfloridian]

130. So true. Made clear during debate...

Now he will pay. But we got his back.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

127. This Hillary supporter found the tone of the Atlantic article unduly dismissive.

As a Hillary supporter I feel I am called upon to be an exemplar to the world, a beacon of light in a sea of darkness, and put on this earth to raise the cheer of my fellow men and women.

[senz]

135. Well I hope you can do something with the rest of them.

Lord knows they need it.

[Zorra]

132. I feel embarrassed for the person who wrote it. yikes. nt

[grahamhgreen]

136. Name calling. Some bodies scared.

[ctsnowman]

140. I am guessing the writers

SO found greener pastures with someone who supports Bernie.

[delrem]

141. Total David Brock. Totally familiar, now. nt

[treestar]

142. You have to be able to take it

without complaining, especially if BS got the nomination. Then it would come from the right wing. I think BS campaign may not be ready for prime time if they are already feeling victimized by this stuff.

[madfloridian]

148. Ha Ha

The journalism in this country is down the drain, and you think we should accept it.

I don't accept it on behalf of either candidate.

It's childish and ignorant media that helps keep a country from making progress.

[Marty McGraw]

213. Just imagine

if we could get our old tax rate for the absurd rich back and entice business's to use tax deferrent money to re-invest in their companies and employees rather than flush all that excess toilet paper cash down the drain to their corporate media whores. It wasn't sewage before, for them in the past, but I would hope that enough eyes have been open to the scheme - especially after the Dean Scream.

For a lot of these corporations, it's just looping the cash back to another wing of their own company - nothing really spent, but ample in return.

[ibegurpard]

194. You don't just "take it."

You hit back hard and relentlessly.

[uhnope]

203. yeah, the hissy fit over this article shows there's some truth to it

you gotta be able to take a joke

[Lunabell]

147. The closer you get to the truth

the more they ridicule you.

[DamnYankeeInHouston]

150. Added to today's to do list:

Donate to Bernie.
Buy Bernie bumper stickers for my new and naked car.

I don't think I am an anything bro. I am a 60 year old, female, kindergarten teacher in the South. I have been in the vicinity of hip, but never ever cool enough to actually be hip. I consider myself to be a serious and thoughtful patriot. I can't believe the Democratic Party leaders would risk losing and electing a Republican president just to keep control of the party. I hope Ruth G. on the Supreme Court is taking her vitamins. I hope this level of ugliness helps Bernie shine even brighter. May the best man win.

[SunSeeker]

153. That was funny!

Now I understand all the references to Berniebros I have been seeing.

[tritsofme]

157. That article gave me a good chuckle. Then I read through this thread

So many Berniebros!

[Kang Colby]

158. I discussed this on DU a few weeks ago....

in reference to what I called the frat boy factor that's associated with Sanders' supporters. "Hey bro, vote for Sanders cuz free pizza for life. It will be awesome bro."

[KoKo]

200. One of the Hosts on "Sirius/XM Potus" called Bernie

a "Composter," who eats "Quinoa and Kale"... and also repeats the meme heard elsewhere in the media that Bernie reminds one of their "Grumpy Old Uncle" who says to "Get Off My Lawn."

She has repeated that over and over and complains about Bernie Supporters Tweeting her with spam to correct her.

So one does wonder if there is a dedicated effort by many in the Media to paint Bernie as some kind of Hippie from the 60's to the Low Information Voter.

[Depaysement]

168. High on the snark

Prep school twink-type looking for some followers, I suppose. I thought they all interned at the National Review.

[sulphurdunn]

172. When did it become a stigma

to be white, well educated and middle or upper middle class? Is it only if you are white, well educated and upper class like David G. Bradley who owns the Atlantic and is a Clinton contributor?

[pinebox]

174. Wow in the comments of that article

is this and boy does she ever completely nail it!

[whatchamacallit]

178. Great comment!

If Hillary supporters think they can malign Bernie supporters daily, and we'll all forget and come together for the GE, think again.

[MisterP]

180. that last point is what they're working with: they want people on the defensive

"Sandernistas are so racist and sexist--and then they DENY it!" so any rebuttal based on experience or collected facts is itself proof of "the problem"

the only way to really win is to point out the poisonous tactic

[TBF]

177. So, you're telling me the status-quo is upset?

Good. Fuck them.

[99Forever]

179. I've heard almost every one of those right here on this forum...

... from members of the Hillary Fan club.

[Califonz]

184. Now I wish I had a subscription to the Atlantic

So I could cancel it!

[Arugula Latte]

197. This is the updated "tax-hiking, government-expanding, latte-drinking, sushi-eating, Volvo-driving,

New York Times-reading, body-piercing, Hollywood-loving left-wing freak show" insult. That one was directed at Howard Dean supporters in an ad by the Club for Growth in '04.

They've got nothing, so they zero in on petty stereotyping.

[madfloridian]

198. Well said.

I guess they think they are being cute, but it sounds so ridiculous.

That ad has become famous.

[Fumesucker]

205. That was so terrible I'm LMAO

Dude had to stop and think of his lines several times...

[m-lekktor]

206. the Club for Growth probably supports the GOP

all the leftist caricature stereotyping nastiness of Bernie is coming from fellow DEMS/Hillary supporters.

[MNBrewer]

207. Essentially an "ad hominem" attack

When they have no real issues they resort to personal attacks.

[uhnope]

216. it's called VETTING, people. Grow up and get over it, there's a lot more to come

nt

[Bluenorthwest]

218. You vet the candidate, you don't mock Americans for taking an active part in politics.

That's just jaded, shitty behavior.

[uhnope]

219. sensitive little feelings are going to get hurt a lot on the road to the WH

it was just a poor attempt at humor in a magazine, poking fun of a demographic of the supporters of a candidate which is done in every major election. Heat, kitchen, victory, fainthearted, insert favorite appropriate saying here

[madfloridian]

220. This weird tweet from ANOTHER senior editor of The Atlantic. What's up with them?

https://twitter.com/DKThomp/status/654098368029937669

What's worse is it got so many retweets. The Atlantic has some unique young editors.

[MisterP]

223. he's on "book leave" from his editorship: must be nice being part of the political stratum

[Gman]

222. Actually the article is spot on and funny.

Everybody knows Samders supporters have declared themselves keepers of what is right and enforcers of said dogma.

Everybody also finds them annoying at times.

[madfloridian]

225. "keepers of what is right and enforcers of said dogma."

Somebody's gotta do it.