2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumNot everything is a conspiracy
Not everyone is lurking in the shadows trying to steal the primary away. Protection of copyrighted material is not a subjugation of democracy. People who support other candidates are not automatically sell-outs, coporatists, hedge-fund managers or part of the 1%. Last I checked, we have the right to choose whom to support without being subjugated to examinations for "Stockholm Syndrome". We are not secret Republicans. There is a world out there with sunlight and fresh air. If you're angry, go take a walk/jog, hit a punching bag or whatever you want to do so long as you occasionally turn off the TV and computer and focus on things that give you peace of mind. Trust me, you'll live a little longer.
SunSeeker
(51,646 posts)highprincipleswork
(3,111 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)That's why they call them "click polls" in a derogatory way.
They're claiming Bernie supporters voted multiple times in those polls to give a false impression.
pnwmom
(108,990 posts)And some people can and do vote in them multiple times, and only the most driven partisans participate in them at all.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)pnwmom
(108,990 posts)That doesn't mean his supporters outnumber hers IRL.
frylock
(34,825 posts)Superstar Latino, Julian Castro, helped bring in a whopping 2000 people to Clinton's big rally in San Antonio.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)we Bernie supporters got together at our super top secret meeting place and each and everyone of us voted at minimum 1,000 times in each and every online poll
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)Sorry to all my fellow super secret online Bernie poll conspirators.
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)They are statistically insignificant. No one can argue against that. The click thing isn't a conspiracy either. It is a fact with many of the online polls. Do you know what a conspiracy is? You haven't presented one here as you claim.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)Not all arguments are valid intellectually. Arguing that a non-scientific poll is accurate is one example.
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)RandySF
(59,106 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)The only polls that Hillary wins are conducted over land lines by people who don't know how to screen calls. Or maybe they're just lonely, and crave any human contact.
jfern
(5,204 posts)RandySF
(59,106 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)not where your candidate is involved
Major Hogwash
(17,656 posts)"Trust me", he says.
wyldwolf
(43,869 posts)How much did Debbie PAY YOU????!!!
roaminronin
(49 posts)And you will find your conspiracy in the pursuit of Return on Investment. Full stop.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)Too many people who are afraid to actually speak their minds, for fear of ruining our chances next year. The main job of Hilary's campaign is to keep you doubting that Bernie - or anyone else really - would have a chance in the general (when in fact, there's every indication he would fare *better* than Hillary.)
GoneFishin
(5,217 posts)been trashing her and poisoning wrinkly old white guys against her for decades. It is not right or fair, but it destroys the "Hillary will be stronger in the general election" meme.
cosmicone
(11,014 posts)DU is not too far behind.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)Just ask John Lewis, or Jane Goodall, or Howard Dean.
reformist2
(9,841 posts)frylock
(34,825 posts)cosmicone
(11,014 posts)that there were following interdigitating conspiracies at play:
1. DWS conspired to keep the debates low in number.
2. DWS conspired to keep it far far away in Nevada making it impossible for people on the East coast to watch
3. CNN conspired to give Hillary the middle podium
4. Anderson Cooper was soft on Hillary and tough on Bernie due to a prearrangement with Clinton Campaign
5. All media outlets ignored their highly scientific online polls and a vast majority of them declared Hillary the winner
6. CNN hid its online poll so people couldn't find it
7. CNN ignored its focus group of an astronomically large 4 people.
8. CNN deprived BernieTV of the rebroadcast rights thus thwarting Bernie's surge (even though anyone can watch the debate free on CNN's site)
I was getting warm to this whole idea of conspiracy and reaching for Reynold's wrap and then you come along with your OP.
roaminronin
(49 posts)You're right! No grift or media blackouts at all. Nothing to see here folks. Just total democracy in action. Move along.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)hill2016
(1,772 posts)It needs to be real tin foil not aluminum foil.
KittyWampus
(55,894 posts)conspiracy theories are a way to try and paper over the glaring hypocrisy.
Zing Zing Zingbah
(6,496 posts)It requires so much coordination between so many people to pull them off. I just don't think most people care enough to put in the crazy effort it would take to pull off a conspiracy. Just doesn't seem very likely.
Dem2
(8,168 posts)that he's being held back by invisible forces.
It can't be both things. I agree.
taught_me_patience
(5,477 posts)(not that he had much chance anyway) and many supporters are grasping at straws to keep hope alive.