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RandySF

(59,106 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 03:23 AM Oct 2015

Not everything is a conspiracy

Not everyone is lurking in the shadows trying to steal the primary away. Protection of copyrighted material is not a subjugation of democracy. People who support other candidates are not automatically sell-outs, coporatists, hedge-fund managers or part of the 1%. Last I checked, we have the right to choose whom to support without being subjugated to examinations for "Stockholm Syndrome". We are not secret Republicans. There is a world out there with sunlight and fresh air. If you're angry, go take a walk/jog, hit a punching bag or whatever you want to do so long as you occasionally turn off the TV and computer and focus on things that give you peace of mind. Trust me, you'll live a little longer.

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Not everything is a conspiracy (Original Post) RandySF Oct 2015 OP
Good advice. nt SunSeeker Oct 2015 #1
Not everyone. Just the DNC. highprincipleswork Oct 2015 #2
What's funny is there are Hillary supporters who believe the polls are the REAL conspiracy.... Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #3
Those polls aren't a conspiracy. They're just meaningless forms of amusement. pnwmom Oct 2015 #5
IOW: Hillary supporters were outnumbered by the minority. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #6
There is no doubt that Bernie has most of the most fervent online supporters. pnwmom Oct 2015 #9
Yeah, you can tell by Hillary's massive crowds at rallies who the people are supporting.. frylock Oct 2015 #33
well yess of course and I'll make confession azurnoir Oct 2015 #8
I've been meaning to apologize. I'm only up to 890 votes, but I'll make it up on the next poll. GoneFishin Oct 2015 #14
lol nt restorefreedom Oct 2015 #22
They aren't a conspiracy. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #21
People CAN argue with that. The political cartoonists are already making a mockery of it. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #27
I guess people can argue against anything. Kind of deserves to be mocked if coming from adults. nt. NCTraveler Oct 2015 #29
People also argue for creationism mythology Oct 2015 #31
Like I said elsewhere, I'll remember that the next time she wins one. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #32
The online polls are not a conspiracy, just something not to be taken seriously. RandySF Oct 2015 #24
I'll remember that next time one comes out with her in the lead. Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #28
That's not going to happen. Ever. frylock Oct 2015 #34
Do you think Bush won the 2000 election fair and square? jfern Oct 2015 #4
THAT was theft. RandySF Oct 2015 #25
well thanks fpr that sage advice and of course there's no conspiracy azurnoir Oct 2015 #7
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they aren't after you. Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #10
your OP is part of the DNC's conspiracy to shut 'progressives' down. WE KNOW THE TRUTH!! wyldwolf Oct 2015 #11
Follow the PAC money roaminronin Oct 2015 #12
There is a lot of mindless frontrunnerism going on, though. reformist2 Oct 2015 #13
Fair or not, she is a lot bigger target for the Republicans and she has a lot more baggage. Fox has GoneFishin Oct 2015 #15
Fox doesn't have a monopoly on poisoning people against Hillary cosmicone Oct 2015 #18
Yea, bernie people are sure afraid to speak their minds. leftofcool Oct 2015 #16
I'm talking about Hillary supporters, most of whom aren't that all that fond of her. reformist2 Oct 2015 #20
Yeah, it was just horrible how people disagreed with them. frylock Oct 2015 #36
Damnit ... just when I was about to be convinced cosmicone Oct 2015 #17
By Jove, roaminronin Oct 2015 #19
LOL! leftofcool Oct 2015 #23
you're using the wrong foil hill2016 Oct 2015 #37
Yes, but when you have a thin skin whilst spending days on end attacking others KittyWampus Oct 2015 #26
I tend to think conspiracies are very rare Zing Zing Zingbah Oct 2015 #30
Either it's utterly amazing that a socialist Jew is garnering so much support, or it's a conspiracy Dem2 Oct 2015 #35
I think it's becoming clear that the nomination is slipping away from Sanders taught_me_patience Oct 2015 #38
 

Spitfire of ATJ

(32,723 posts)
3. What's funny is there are Hillary supporters who believe the polls are the REAL conspiracy....
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 04:47 AM
Oct 2015

That's why they call them "click polls" in a derogatory way.

They're claiming Bernie supporters voted multiple times in those polls to give a false impression.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
5. Those polls aren't a conspiracy. They're just meaningless forms of amusement.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:27 AM
Oct 2015

And some people can and do vote in them multiple times, and only the most driven partisans participate in them at all.

pnwmom

(108,990 posts)
9. There is no doubt that Bernie has most of the most fervent online supporters.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:48 AM
Oct 2015

That doesn't mean his supporters outnumber hers IRL.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
33. Yeah, you can tell by Hillary's massive crowds at rallies who the people are supporting..
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:07 PM
Oct 2015

Superstar Latino, Julian Castro, helped bring in a whopping 2000 people to Clinton's big rally in San Antonio.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
8. well yess of course and I'll make confession
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:37 AM
Oct 2015

we Bernie supporters got together at our super top secret meeting place and each and everyone of us voted at minimum 1,000 times in each and every online poll

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
14. I've been meaning to apologize. I'm only up to 890 votes, but I'll make it up on the next poll.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:20 AM
Oct 2015

Sorry to all my fellow super secret online Bernie poll conspirators.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
21. They aren't a conspiracy.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 07:22 AM
Oct 2015

They are statistically insignificant. No one can argue against that. The click thing isn't a conspiracy either. It is a fact with many of the online polls. Do you know what a conspiracy is? You haven't presented one here as you claim.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
31. People also argue for creationism
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:25 AM
Oct 2015

Not all arguments are valid intellectually. Arguing that a non-scientific poll is accurate is one example.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
34. That's not going to happen. Ever.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:13 PM
Oct 2015

The only polls that Hillary wins are conducted over land lines by people who don't know how to screen calls. Or maybe they're just lonely, and crave any human contact.

azurnoir

(45,850 posts)
7. well thanks fpr that sage advice and of course there's no conspiracy
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:35 AM
Oct 2015

not where your candidate is involved

wyldwolf

(43,869 posts)
11. your OP is part of the DNC's conspiracy to shut 'progressives' down. WE KNOW THE TRUTH!!
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:11 AM
Oct 2015

How much did Debbie PAY YOU????!!!

reformist2

(9,841 posts)
13. There is a lot of mindless frontrunnerism going on, though.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:19 AM
Oct 2015

Too many people who are afraid to actually speak their minds, for fear of ruining our chances next year. The main job of Hilary's campaign is to keep you doubting that Bernie - or anyone else really - would have a chance in the general (when in fact, there's every indication he would fare *better* than Hillary.)

GoneFishin

(5,217 posts)
15. Fair or not, she is a lot bigger target for the Republicans and she has a lot more baggage. Fox has
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:26 AM
Oct 2015

been trashing her and poisoning wrinkly old white guys against her for decades. It is not right or fair, but it destroys the "Hillary will be stronger in the general election" meme.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
16. Yea, bernie people are sure afraid to speak their minds.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:30 AM
Oct 2015

Just ask John Lewis, or Jane Goodall, or Howard Dean.

 

cosmicone

(11,014 posts)
17. Damnit ... just when I was about to be convinced
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:44 AM
Oct 2015

that there were following interdigitating conspiracies at play:

1. DWS conspired to keep the debates low in number.
2. DWS conspired to keep it far far away in Nevada making it impossible for people on the East coast to watch
3. CNN conspired to give Hillary the middle podium
4. Anderson Cooper was soft on Hillary and tough on Bernie due to a prearrangement with Clinton Campaign
5. All media outlets ignored their highly scientific online polls and a vast majority of them declared Hillary the winner
6. CNN hid its online poll so people couldn't find it
7. CNN ignored its focus group of an astronomically large 4 people.
8. CNN deprived BernieTV of the rebroadcast rights thus thwarting Bernie's surge (even though anyone can watch the debate free on CNN's site)

I was getting warm to this whole idea of conspiracy and reaching for Reynold's wrap and then you come along with your OP.

roaminronin

(49 posts)
19. By Jove,
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:56 AM
Oct 2015

You're right! No grift or media blackouts at all. Nothing to see here folks. Just total democracy in action. Move along.

 

KittyWampus

(55,894 posts)
26. Yes, but when you have a thin skin whilst spending days on end attacking others
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:47 AM
Oct 2015

conspiracy theories are a way to try and paper over the glaring hypocrisy.

Zing Zing Zingbah

(6,496 posts)
30. I tend to think conspiracies are very rare
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 11:21 AM
Oct 2015

It requires so much coordination between so many people to pull them off. I just don't think most people care enough to put in the crazy effort it would take to pull off a conspiracy. Just doesn't seem very likely.

Dem2

(8,168 posts)
35. Either it's utterly amazing that a socialist Jew is garnering so much support, or it's a conspiracy
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:13 PM
Oct 2015

that he's being held back by invisible forces.

It can't be both things. I agree.

 

taught_me_patience

(5,477 posts)
38. I think it's becoming clear that the nomination is slipping away from Sanders
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:36 PM
Oct 2015

(not that he had much chance anyway) and many supporters are grasping at straws to keep hope alive.

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