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antigop

(12,778 posts)
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:17 AM Oct 2015

Insurrection Erupts at the Democratic National Committee

http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-16/insurrection-erupts-at-the-democratic-national-committee

Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz's autocratic ways in limiting the number of primary debates, insiders say, alienated many of her colleagues. And the problem may get worse.

Before things went awry, Hawaii Democratic congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard had been planning to be in Las Vegas for her party’s first presidential debate. Gabbard is one of five vice chairs of the Democratic National Committee; of course she would be there. But instead of talking up her party’s prospects on the Strip earlier this week, Gabbard was in Honolulu. Her presence in Sin City was strictly virtual, and anything but boosterish: She spent debate day giving cable-news interviews via satellite, claiming that, as retribution for loudly calling for more Democratic debates than the DNC currently envisions, she was deemed unwelcome in Vegas by the committee’s chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultz—whom Gabbard suggested is an enemy of free speech, as well as a liar.

For most debate viewers and Democratic voters, the Gabbard flap, if it registered at all, was little more than a sideshow. But among Democratic officials and strategists, the dust-up was an embarrassing public spectacle—a boiling-over of long-simmering frustrations and resentments within the party hierarchy at a highly inopportune moment.

Of two dozen Democratic insiders with whom I spoke this week, including several DNC vice chairs, not one defended Wasserman Schultz’s treatment of Gabbard. Most called it ridiculous, outrageous, or worse. Many argued, further, that the debate plan enacted by the chairwoman is badly flawed—an assessment shared by many party activists, left-bent supporters of Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley, and those candidates themselves, all of whom see it as a naked effort to aid and comfort Hillary Clinton. And they maintained that the plan was a clear reflection of Wasserman Schultz’s management style, which many of them see as endangering Democratic prospects in 2016 and beyond.
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Insurrection Erupts at the Democratic National Committee (Original Post) antigop Oct 2015 OP
She should have been gone ibegurpard Oct 2015 #1
but that'd mean admitting that their perfect plan was at fault, not the voter-swine MisterP Oct 2015 #6
The fact that she's still there makes no sense. SleeplessinSoCal Oct 2015 #22
This is the type of shit that will get Trump elected. JRLeft Oct 2015 #2
Yes, our ability to look in the mirror is lacking ... slipslidingaway Oct 2015 #11
Rec'd. And related thread Catherina Oct 2015 #3
They seem intent on repeating the 1968 DNC jfern Oct 2015 #4
yup 1968 was the beginning of the end . olddots Oct 2015 #10
i seriously don't know what it will take restorefreedom Oct 2015 #5
gee I wonder what democratic president wants her in the job? hmmm nt msongs Oct 2015 #7
about fucking time! marym625 Oct 2015 #8
Its a real hoot since the biggest complainers are not contributing to the DNC... Historic NY Oct 2015 #9
and how does a liar at the helm help the Democratic party? marym625 Oct 2015 #12
They doing everything to make sure people stay home, next November. JRLeft Oct 2015 #13
yep. marym625 Oct 2015 #14
Exactly, yet their job is too increase the number of democratic voters. Live and Learn Oct 2015 #24
Nothing says democracy like crushing dissent. DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2015 #32
Schultz desperately needs to be primaried after she's fired from the DNC. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #15
She supposedly has a primary opponant. HooptieWagon Oct 2015 #20
She sure as hell zentrum Oct 2015 #16
Limiting debates is zentrum Oct 2015 #17
Right on! More GOP Debates translates to more exposure and ability to spin their message! nt TheBlackAdder Oct 2015 #19
I've worked with people who are like her, deutsey Oct 2015 #26
I wouldn't mind if, instead of more debates, the DNC released the candidates from the exclusivity aidbo Oct 2015 #18
Democrats invest talent, work, and ingenuity into figuring how to turn our advantages into failure. NBachers Oct 2015 #21
Yep...they have a frustrating habit of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory deutsey Oct 2015 #27
We should cut DSW some slack mr goodbeer Oct 2015 #23
Remember how hard it was to get them to appoint Howard Dean? Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2015 #25
The main goal of the Oligarchy controlled DNC leadership is to keep a progressive out even rhett o rick Oct 2015 #28
True. She already betrayed three Democrats Lorien Oct 2015 #30
DWS threw Dems under the bus with the medical marijuana bill Lorien Oct 2015 #29
DWS is unstable. Greed and toxic eyeliner can do that to people. glinda Oct 2015 #31

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,131 posts)
22. The fact that she's still there makes no sense.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:04 AM
Oct 2015

She's hurting Hillary with her autocratic ways. Who holds most sway to stop the bleeding and coordinate an effort to oust her before 2016? It's vital.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
11. Yes, our ability to look in the mirror is lacking ...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:33 AM
Oct 2015

we just gave the Repubs a few months of 'free' media attention.





 

olddots

(10,237 posts)
10. yup 1968 was the beginning of the end .
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:32 AM
Oct 2015

In the long run we are all just market segments more than political parties .

restorefreedom

(12,655 posts)
5. i seriously don't know what it will take
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:24 AM
Oct 2015

to get her replaced.

i suspect if clinton gets the nom through trickery, and then we lose the wh and seats in congress. it would be too late then, but the oligarchs do well with the gop in charge, so no biggie

its probably their b plan.

then they will replace her for show.

too late for the 99% though.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
8. about fucking time!
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:27 AM
Oct 2015

It registered with most democrats. I find it unbelievable ANYONE that calls themselves a Democrat has defended this bullshit.

It's not just the few numbers of debates (remember when each debate had a focused issue so as to delve deeper into each subject than the few seconds each candidate now has) or the ridiculously, stupid schedule, it's the banning of any candidate that dares to debate outside the DNC.

She is a determinant to the party and the number of democrats that stayed home last election proves that.

Historic NY

(37,452 posts)
9. Its a real hoot since the biggest complainers are not contributing to the DNC...
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:30 AM
Oct 2015

for the debates. Many BS sites tell people not to give them any money.... I think the party can deal with a few less vice chairs just fine.

marym625

(17,997 posts)
12. and how does a liar at the helm help the Democratic party?
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:34 AM
Oct 2015

Nice to know you prefer a liar to more debates and honesty

Live and Learn

(12,769 posts)
24. Exactly, yet their job is too increase the number of democratic voters.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 02:13 AM
Oct 2015

In the business world they'd be fired.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
32. Nothing says democracy like crushing dissent.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:30 AM
Oct 2015

I hereby bestow upon you the John Bolton Fuck Consensus Award. It's like a leg lamp, but not as attractive. Still, it's a major award.

Uncle Joe

(58,389 posts)
15. Schultz desperately needs to be primaried after she's fired from the DNC.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 12:48 AM
Oct 2015

She's been a total disgrace to democratic principles.

Thanks for the thread, antigop.

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
20. She supposedly has a primary opponant.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:43 AM
Oct 2015

He might be worse...sounds like a looney toon.
Her district is heavily Democratic, I think she probably cut a deal with her Republican Cuban friends in neighboring districts to divvy up safe seats for themselves. The only opportunity to get completely rid of her is the redistricting case that's now in the judges hands. I don't think her district will be radically redrawn though. If she just loses her DNC chairmanship, that will effectively de-fang her and make her largely irrelevant. Probably dry up a good bit of her funding too.

zentrum

(9,865 posts)
17. Limiting debates is
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:08 AM
Oct 2015

…..not just about limiting Bernie's exposure. It hurts the entire party because the country as a whole doesn't get exposed to the Democratic message.

The Repubs get headlines and free quotes every time they have a debate. We've been hearing their "message" for months.

The average MSM consumer (the average nonpolitical voter) hears our message only after months of hearing the Repub frame for it.

She is the worst leader, and a terrible tactician. I'm really surprised the Party allows this state of affairs.

DEBATES ARE FREE ADVERTISING DEBBIE!

She is a terrible liability.

deutsey

(20,166 posts)
26. I've worked with people who are like her,
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 05:50 AM
Oct 2015

mostly in corporate jobs I've had. Total control freaks.

 

aidbo

(2,328 posts)
18. I wouldn't mind if, instead of more debates, the DNC released the candidates from the exclusivity
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:14 AM
Oct 2015

Provision

NBachers

(17,133 posts)
21. Democrats invest talent, work, and ingenuity into figuring how to turn our advantages into failure.
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 01:54 AM
Oct 2015

D-Wass has been sabotaging the Democratic Party long enough. Time for her to go- now.

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
28. The main goal of the Oligarchy controlled DNC leadership is to keep a progressive out even
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 06:55 PM
Oct 2015

if it means getting a Republicon elected.

Lorien

(31,935 posts)
29. DWS threw Dems under the bus with the medical marijuana bill
Fri Oct 16, 2015, 08:47 PM
Oct 2015

here in Florida. Thousands of Floridians would be getting needed treatment today if her fragile ego hadn't been bruised by the lawyer who funded the bill. He called DWS "A bully": http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/rep-debbie-wasserman-schultz-denies-office-offered-to-reverse-medical-pot/2218467

glinda

(14,807 posts)
31. DWS is unstable. Greed and toxic eyeliner can do that to people.
Sat Oct 17, 2015, 12:20 AM
Oct 2015

She is hurting the Party. She must go asap.

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