2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumInsurrection Erupts at the Democratic National Committee
http://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2015-10-16/insurrection-erupts-at-the-democratic-national-committeeBefore things went awry, Hawaii Democratic congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard had been planning to be in Las Vegas for her partys first presidential debate. Gabbard is one of five vice chairs of the Democratic National Committee; of course she would be there. But instead of talking up her partys prospects on the Strip earlier this week, Gabbard was in Honolulu. Her presence in Sin City was strictly virtual, and anything but boosterish: She spent debate day giving cable-news interviews via satellite, claiming that, as retribution for loudly calling for more Democratic debates than the DNC currently envisions, she was deemed unwelcome in Vegas by the committees chairwoman, Debbie Wasserman Schultzwhom Gabbard suggested is an enemy of free speech, as well as a liar.
For most debate viewers and Democratic voters, the Gabbard flap, if it registered at all, was little more than a sideshow. But among Democratic officials and strategists, the dust-up was an embarrassing public spectaclea boiling-over of long-simmering frustrations and resentments within the party hierarchy at a highly inopportune moment.
Of two dozen Democratic insiders with whom I spoke this week, including several DNC vice chairs, not one defended Wasserman Schultzs treatment of Gabbard. Most called it ridiculous, outrageous, or worse. Many argued, further, that the debate plan enacted by the chairwoman is badly flawedan assessment shared by many party activists, left-bent supporters of Bernie Sanders and Martin OMalley, and those candidates themselves, all of whom see it as a naked effort to aid and comfort Hillary Clinton. And they maintained that the plan was a clear reflection of Wasserman Schultzs management style, which many of them see as endangering Democratic prospects in 2016 and beyond.
ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)After the 2014 elections.
MisterP
(23,730 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,131 posts)She's hurting Hillary with her autocratic ways. Who holds most sway to stop the bleeding and coordinate an effort to oust her before 2016? It's vital.
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)we just gave the Repubs a few months of 'free' media attention.
Catherina
(35,568 posts)jfern
(5,204 posts)olddots
(10,237 posts)In the long run we are all just market segments more than political parties .
restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)to get her replaced.
i suspect if clinton gets the nom through trickery, and then we lose the wh and seats in congress. it would be too late then, but the oligarchs do well with the gop in charge, so no biggie
its probably their b plan.
then they will replace her for show.
too late for the 99% though.
msongs
(67,430 posts)marym625
(17,997 posts)It registered with most democrats. I find it unbelievable ANYONE that calls themselves a Democrat has defended this bullshit.
It's not just the few numbers of debates (remember when each debate had a focused issue so as to delve deeper into each subject than the few seconds each candidate now has) or the ridiculously, stupid schedule, it's the banning of any candidate that dares to debate outside the DNC.
She is a determinant to the party and the number of democrats that stayed home last election proves that.
Historic NY
(37,452 posts)for the debates. Many BS sites tell people not to give them any money.... I think the party can deal with a few less vice chairs just fine.
marym625
(17,997 posts)Nice to know you prefer a liar to more debates and honesty
JRLeft
(7,010 posts)Absolutely. Despicable
Live and Learn
(12,769 posts)In the business world they'd be fired.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)I hereby bestow upon you the John Bolton Fuck Consensus Award. It's like a leg lamp, but not as attractive. Still, it's a major award.
Uncle Joe
(58,389 posts)She's been a total disgrace to democratic principles.
Thanks for the thread, antigop.
HooptieWagon
(17,064 posts)He might be worse...sounds like a looney toon.
Her district is heavily Democratic, I think she probably cut a deal with her Republican Cuban friends in neighboring districts to divvy up safe seats for themselves. The only opportunity to get completely rid of her is the redistricting case that's now in the judges hands. I don't think her district will be radically redrawn though. If she just loses her DNC chairmanship, that will effectively de-fang her and make her largely irrelevant. Probably dry up a good bit of her funding too.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
..endangered us and the country at the midterms.
zentrum
(9,865 posts)
..not just about limiting Bernie's exposure. It hurts the entire party because the country as a whole doesn't get exposed to the Democratic message.
The Repubs get headlines and free quotes every time they have a debate. We've been hearing their "message" for months.
The average MSM consumer (the average nonpolitical voter) hears our message only after months of hearing the Repub frame for it.
She is the worst leader, and a terrible tactician. I'm really surprised the Party allows this state of affairs.
DEBATES ARE FREE ADVERTISING DEBBIE!
She is a terrible liability.
TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts)deutsey
(20,166 posts)mostly in corporate jobs I've had. Total control freaks.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)Provision
NBachers
(17,133 posts)D-Wass has been sabotaging the Democratic Party long enough. Time for her to go- now.
deutsey
(20,166 posts)mr goodbeer
(66 posts)After all, she's a Floridian, yet she's sane!
Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)if it means getting a Republicon elected.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)to get three of her GOP buddies elected.
Lorien
(31,935 posts)here in Florida. Thousands of Floridians would be getting needed treatment today if her fragile ego hadn't been bruised by the lawyer who funded the bill. He called DWS "A bully": http://www.tampabay.com/news/politics/stateroundup/rep-debbie-wasserman-schultz-denies-office-offered-to-reverse-medical-pot/2218467
glinda
(14,807 posts)She is hurting the Party. She must go asap.