Ignore the Bernie gang on DU. Hillary won the first debate.

[trumad]

I'm just countering the 850 threads posted by the Bernie gang.

I guess it's who claps the loudest.

[randys1]

1. The American people won the debate because we saw 3 very

intelligent, responsible and sincere people talk about solutions.






I hate that Hillary isnt on board with Glass Steagall, though.

[GusBob]

2. It's not a gang it's a club

[RobertEarl]

7. Heh

Like 90% of DUers. The smartest, most educated and informed Democrats in the whole US.... here on DU.

And the OP thinks we should be ignored? Wow.

[trumad]

12. Oh you guys think so highly of yourselves.

[RobertEarl]

29. Why, yes we do

If you take your own advice, you'd just ignore us so much you'd find another website?

If you are not happy here, well, sorry about that. FEELTHEBERN?

[GusBob]

45. Gosh what a nice way of saying DUers who disagree with you are stupid

And the Majority of Democrats nationwide are too

Well played

[RobertEarl]

69. That's outright falsehood, never said that

You should be aware that such untruths are roundly unliked here, gus.

The people on DU who are not Bernie fans are merely a minority. And as Bernie becomes better known in the US, so will it be in the US.

[GusBob]

71. Excuse me, Mr Well-Educated?

A person's name is a proper noun, the first letter of which is always capitalized.

This is a the proper case: G

[RobertEarl]

72. Sure thing, gus

I usually do caps when I have respect.

Thing is, bob, you told an untruth. No ducking it, gus. Or you could delete and duck?

[zappaman]

63. LOL!!!!

[KittyWampus]

74. same percent who supported John Edwards. LOL

[cherokeeprogressive]

38. You're quite right. It's a BIG club, and you ain't in it.

[GusBob]

66. Why does the Sanders group on DU have 10 threads pinned?

Last time I saw 10 red sticky pins. I just read Gulag by Anne Applebaum on it reminded me of kartoga

[cherokeeprogressive]

68. I have no clue what you're talking about. Glad about that...

[kenfrequed]

102. So...

Marking posts in a forum group is just like a collection of gulags?

Help me understand how this analogy makes even the slightest kind of sense.

I mean, this is the kind of hyperbole that is usually not evidenced in rational arguments.

[HassleCat]

3. Of course she did

She's the designated winner. The pundits agree she won. The political regulars agree she won. Who else is there? Oh, the voters? Nah! They don't count. They can easily be scared away from Sanders and back into Clinton's arms.

[trumad]

4. Pundits--Bernie Gang on DU

What's the difference?

[HassleCat]

9. Amateurs vs. professionals

I guess we're all pundits because we all express opinions, make predictions, etc. The people who get paid to be on TV and offer their analysis seem to think Clinton won the debate.

[trumad]

14. And you guys are yelling your man won.

[HassleCat]

43. The people in the focus groups seem to think so

I don't know how they choose the participants, but the focus groups did not seem to think Clinton won, although they didn't seem to think Sanders won, either. I kind of agree with the Slate Magazine analysis, that Clinton won because all she had to do was avoid losing her temper, and she did much better than that. All she had to do was prove there was no obvious reason she could not be the front runner, and she did that, so she "won" in that sense. And I think she "won" by convincing doubtful Democratic primary voters they are safe in supporting her. Sanders probably "won" in terms of convincing independents and moderate Republicans, and attracting Democrats who were not familiar with him, but that doesn't help him much in the primary.

[madokie]

76. That's what they get paid for

These people are not friends of ours, you can bet on that.

[hrmjustin]

5. It is hilarious to watch them try to convince us though.

[trumad]

8. Oh they're trying...

Jesus Christ...look at how many Ops they've written yelling their guy won. Oh...and of course--don't believe the MSM.

[hrmjustin]

10. It is all a conspiracy and internet polls are king.

[workinclasszero]

51. IKR?

How the heck can you ever take a Bernie fan seriously now?

If all their arguments a based on woo and everybody's out to get us! SMH

[hrmjustin]

56. .

[Fawke Em]

61. Focus groups, Google searches and donations.

All quantitative and all ignored by Hillary supporters.

Notice I didn't mention online polls.

He kicked her ass.

[hrmjustin]

67. Are you trying to convince me or yourself?

[brentspeak]

6. Who cares what the majority of people think?

What's really important is who a few Wall Street fraudster plutocrats support.

[TheBlackAdder]

27. X2 - Why are divisive OPs like this allowed? The only objective is to stir hate and resentment. nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

42. He hates and resents that Bernie Sanders' supporters here aren't genuflecting. nt

[TheBlackAdder]

47. While the initial OP, was marginal, subsequent replies seemingly reinforce the intent to inflame. nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

50. Too true. nt

[villager]

11. If she won so clearly, why are her supporters being so graceless about it?

There were things I found to like about all the candidates last night, and I think Bernie's presence on stage makes Hillary a better candidate.

Why her supporters are so determined to... drive away support, however, remains a puzzlement.

[trumad]

16. Graceless.

How many Ops on this forum yelling Bernie won...don't believe anyone else.

Graceless! Ha!

[villager]

28. Pretty graceless, all right. Defensive, even.

I may not agree with the phraseology of every Bernie post, but the point(s) there seem to be between the "vox populi" verdicts and the official MSM narratives.

[JaneyVee]

13. Bernie is winning all 50 states.

Haven't you heard?

[trumad]

21. Many times..

When ask for proof they fade away.

[Armstead]

15. Can we ignore the Hillary Gang too?

This drooling because she turned in a mildly competent performance is equally overbearing.

[trumad]

18. Only a Bern supporter would say mildly competent.

You guys crack me up.

[reformist2]

26. People are going crazy because she didn't fall flat on her face.

[trumad]

34. Well those people are idiots.

People in the know know that Hillary is a hell of a debator.

Bernie...not so much.

[Fawke Em]

59. She's a HORRIBLE debator.

Gender card? Five times?

Maybe that's the real reason the corporate media says she won - because she didn't stink as much as she normally does.

[trumad]

60. Ahh the mind of a Bernie supporter.

Fascinating!

[Fawke Em]

65. Ahhh - the mind of a Hillary supporter: let's vote for

someone else to screw us!

[Armstead]

75. Tapioca pudding

Avoided any gaffes. A few little zingers, a lot of empty platitudes, a few distortions, positions she'll abandon once those pasky leftists are out of the way......Yeah mildly competant.

[trumad]

77. Uh huh

[Armstead]

80. Yuppers

[TheCowsCameHome]

17. How do I find "Bernie Gang" to put them on ignore?

[daleanime]

19. Wouldn't it be more productive....

to ask them why they think differently?

Oh, that right, dissenting opinions not allow. Sorry to have brothered you.

[trumad]

25. You're talking about the Bernie gang, correct.

[daleanime]

31. If thought I was talking to you....

I seem to be mistaken, since nothing is getting though. My apologies again.

[villager]

30. You're asking the snark-reliant to have an actual discussion... on a putative "discussion" site!?

That would be something to behold!

[trumad]

32. Snark-reliant?

I like that.

[villager]

39. Thanks.

[reformist2]

20. Yes, more pro-Bernie posts on DU, every online poll showing Bernie won - it means NOTHING!!!!!

Sorry to break it to you, but the emperor has no clothes. Hillary's support is nowhere near the 50% number that they keep reporting. It's not backed up by the reality around you.

[trumad]

22. Uh huh...

So says the Bernie Gang.

[DanTex]

24. Pro-Bernie posts on DU. LOL.

Bernie: the next president of DU!

[reformist2]

37. I don't know why you're laughing. Hillary's frontrunner campaign is looking like a Potemkin Village.

[DanTex]

53. I'm laughing that posts on DU are now being used of "evidence" of Bernie's popularity.

[reformist2]

54. OK, but I sure would like to see evidence of Hillary's popularity.

[DanTex]

57. OK.

http://elections.huffingtonpost.com/pollster/2016-national-democratic-primary

[Fawke Em]

33. They're also ignoring the focus groups who say Bernie won (most of them),

the 37,000+ donors who gave Bernie about $2 million during the debate and immediately after and the fact that Google says that people searched for Bernie far more than any other candidate last night.

Those are hard numbers. They can't yell that those things are unscientific, so they're ignoring it.

Bernie clearly won with anyone not owned by a corporation.

[reformist2]

40. That reminds me - Hillary has never released the *number* of people who have donated money to her.

Another embarrassing factoid she doesn't want people to know. I bet you that it's under 20,000 nationwide.

[ucrdem]

23. More doctors choose Bernie than any other cigarette.

Feel the Bern!

[99Forever]

35. Shit-stirring, at it's finest.

It's fun to watch an expert at work.

:bravo:

Please proceed.

[Capt. Obvious]

41. Give Trumad a break

This is his third try at it today. He obviously didn't get fed enough in his two prior threads.

[99Forever]

48. I don't give shit-stirrers breaks.

I shine a light on them, and then laugh @ them.

@ this OP.

[Capt. Obvious]

52. It's better to turn the lights off on them

Same thing will happen as when a plant is starved of light.

[restorefreedom]

82. do you also taunt them

and fart in their general direction?

i had to ask lol.


https://m.

[99Forever]

92. Sounds like fun!

(Loves me some Monty! Thanks for that.)

[restorefreedom]

98. my pleasure!

always love to find a moment to insert a mp clip

[trumad]

78. Now you need go into all the Bernie won threads

and say the same thing.

Nah...you're not gonna do that. Cause Bernie gang shit don't stink.

[99Forever]

94. I just checked my list of people...

... I have enough respect for, to listen to their suggestions about what I should do.


You ain't on it. Ahhh geeeez. Sucks for you, eh?

[trumad]

96. Uh huh

[99Forever]

97. Uuuuuuuu......

Crushing comeback.

I'm devastated.

[Electric Monk]

103. Jury results (1-6)

AUTOMATED MESSAGE: Results of your Jury Service

Mail Message
On Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:40 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Shit-stirring, at it's finest.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=681871

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is just an unnecessary personal attack. And not the first one from this poster against the OP today

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:48 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The OP posted by definition disruptive meta with the intention of getting people to "Ignore the Bernie gang on DU." This OP should have been locked or moved, but as it continues to stand here, I see no harm in calling a post for what it is; disruptive, trolling meta. Also known as "Shit-stirring."
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Truth defense. Trumad clearly IS shit-stirring with this thread.
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Ugh! Dumb alert. Please relax people.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Oh Please......
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: This poster seems to take great joy in attacking rather than discussing.

[hlthe2b]

36. I don't get it either. Seems to me the Democrats won & handily..with Hillary AND Sanders doing well.

(and O'Malley proving he may well be a good VP contender)....

Whether it was Hillary #1 and Sanders #2 OR the reverse-- seems to miss the point at this stage, at least to me.

[workinclasszero]

44. Yeah we all know Hillary won big last night

But Bernie fans are in denial cause they spammed online polls all night and are a little cranky today. LOL

[JRLeft]

46. America loses with Wall Street Hillary.

[randr]

49. Our candidate will not win with applause

They will win by votes. Whichever candidate wins the primary will win the general election by a large margin.
I am ready to fight for either Hillary or Bernie.

[rhett o rick]

55. There is a movement whether you want to believe it or not. nm

[restorefreedom]

83. cleary many don't want to believe it

a lot of sand getting displaced with so many sticking their heads in it

[rhett o rick]

93. They are afraid of change. They would watch our nation slide into an oligarchy and never

put up a fight. They point and yell that the Republicons are the problem, but they are merely a symptom. The problem is that the wealthy want to gain more wealth and the easiest way to gain wealth is to steal it from the lower classes.

[restorefreedom]

99. sadly, so, so true. nt

[oasis]

58. Truth be told, Hillary won.

[tanyev]

62. Jury results:

On Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:25 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Ignore the Bernie gang on DU. Hillary won the first debate.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251681750

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This is flamebait, the op posted two similar threads today and didn't get enough attention, now they're stirring the pot again.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251677926

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251678823

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Wed Oct 14, 2015, 06:32 PM, and the Jury voted 1-6 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Someone with way too much time on their hands...
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Just another silly/dumb post. No rule against that.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Agree with alerter. Its flame bait. Hide
Lets keep DU civil
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Trumad makes a valid point. Obviously some people's (like the alerter)
feelings are hurt and it will no doubt take a while for them to get over it.

[trumad]

79. Thanks for posting the results..

Basically a copycat of all the Bernie threads.

[Vattel]

64. Yes, her defense of the war in Libya was so compelling.

And voters knew that she would fight Wall Street on behalf of the 99% when she said that as a Senator she had gone to Wall Street and told them to cut it out. And I loved the fact that she conveniently misremembered what she had said about the TPP being the gold standard. And her claim that Snowden could have educated the public about unconstitutional surveillance and received whistleblower protections had he played ball was so believable. And don't get me started on legalization of Marijuana. Her firm resolve to wait and see was impressive.

[TheKentuckian]

70. Clinton had her best performance to date but yet and still Sanders did even better.

[MuseRider]

73. Ahhh. I could not be here today but knew

what I would find when I was able to pull the site up.

I thought Hillary did a great job. She was much better than I had seen her before, she really did well.

I thought O'Malley did too.

Chafee, well he is done now right?

Webb, scary dude. Bright, yes. He has done some good things but scary dude.

For me it was Bernie but it would take a lot for me to say otherwise. He may or may not have debated the best, I can't judge that since I do not know thing 1 about actual debating but he said what I wanted and needed to hear.

Of course there are going to be thousands of Bernie posts here, it is just how it shook out this time. I find it as uncomfortable being in the big group as I did being in the tiny group all those elections with Kucinich. I wish it was not like this.

Anyway, she did great. If she is saying what you want and need to hear then good and hooray for you. For me, I can't take all this DU crap much longer and that is from the big group advantage. Oh well.

[Joey Joe Joe]

81. No comment but wanted to add this

http://mediaequalizer.com/brian-maloney/2015/10/fuming-bernie-supporters-why-is-cnn-deleting-our-comments

[restorefreedom]

85. holeeeee shit

this should be an op for anyone who has any lingering doubts about the favoratism of cnn.

[Joey Joe Joe]

86. Feel free to make it to an OP with my permission

[restorefreedom]

87. thanks will definitely consider it! nt

[restorefreedom]

88. update..someone has it covered

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251682371

[DJ13]

95. Time Warner

[restorefreedom]

84. we are a gang?

when did we all join a gang?

and dammit, no one taught me the secret sign!


https://m.

[Matariki]

89. Clearly it's who has richer friends who own a media outlet or two.

"The Bernie gang on DU"

[DCBob]

90. Also winning for Hillary in this situation simply meant proving she is still the front runner.

No mistakes, no hesitations, no holding back.. clear, confident, cool... she did all that and more.

[Autumn]

91. You can post OPs about your candidate instead of OPs trashing Bernie supporters.

Unless you can't think of anything positive to say about your candidate in which case, carry on.

[restorefreedom]

100. personally, i would love to see vigorous defenses of hillarys

policy positions, instead of this

[Persondem]

101. Well, you are supposed to clap for Tinkerbell to bring her back to life.

So perhaps that is the reason they are clapping for the Sanders campaign.

[Major Hogwash]

104. Top Ten Comments Overheard At Trumad's House During First Democratic Debate

10. Oh, man, this is going to be great. I've got my big easy chair. I've got my beer. I need more salted peanuts.

9. WTF!?! He didn't just say that, tell me he didn't just say that!!

8. What a freakin' douchebag!! What an asshat!! What kind of question was that?!?

7. Honey, did you hear what she just said? I thought my hearing was going out on me or something.

6. ^&$)@!! You lying sack of crap!!! Get out of here!!!!! Get out!!

5. Honey, can you get me another beer?

4. No, Honey, I wasn't talking about you. Now, won't you come out of the bathroom?

3. Kids, go back to bed, Mommy's just upset. No, Daddy's not drunk.

2. Okay, okay, I'll change the damned channel and I won't watch it anymore!!! I promise! Now won't you come out of there? I've got to use the john. Please, my back teeth are swimming.

1. Dammit, I missed the end. Who won? WTH!?! Cubs win!! Cubs win!! OMG, I'm turning into Harry Carrey, Jr.

[trumad]

105. Ha

10. Oh, man, this is going to be great. I've got my big easy chair. I've got my beer. I need more salted peanuts.
I prefer Cashews and Woodford Preserve

9. WTF!?! He didn't just say that, tell me he didn't just say that!!
When you say "He"---what Sausage are you referring to?

8. What a freakin' douchebag!! What an asshat!! What kind of question was that?!?
Well you got me there.

7. Honey, did you hear what she just said? I thought my hearing was going out on me or something.
Wife refuses to watch politics with me--Say's I'm cra cra.

6. ^&$)@!! You lying sack of crap!!! Get out of here!!!!! Get out!!
You must be thinking of the Republican debate.

5. Honey, can you get me another beer?
Again---Woodford.

4. No, Honey, I wasn't talking about you. Now, won't you come out of the bathroom?
You got me there.

3. Kids, go back to bed, Mommy's just upset. No, Daddy's not drunk.
Daughter---21---was at a Hillary for President event watching the debate. My two Boys, 22 and 18 were playing some stupid video game upstairs.

2. Okay, okay, I'll change the damned channel and I won't watch it anymore!!! I promise! Now won't you come out of there? I've got to use the john. Please, my back teeth are swimming.
You got me there

1. Dammit, I missed the end. Who won? WTH!?! Cubs win!! Cubs win!! OMG, I'm turning into Harry Carrey, Jr.
Now that's fucking funny!