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thecentristword

(187 posts)
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 03:03 PM Aug 2012

By choosing Paul Ryan as his VP, Romney has solidified his Base and doomed the GOP for a Generation

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The importance of the Paul Ryan budget cannot be understated. It is the biggest and most defining document for the GOP in a generation. It might not only decide the current presidential election, but it has the potential to change the voting habits of an entire generation.

Every Republican in Congress voted for the Ryan Budget and Mitt Romney has repeatedly voiced his support for it. The entire Republican Establishment is now married to it now. If it becomes wildly as unpopular as the Democrats think it will be, the Republicans will also become wildly unpopular.

While best know part of the budget, eliminating Medicare and replacing it with a voucher system may be the best know element of the plan, there is enough detail in it to launch a controversial topic each day from now until the election. It is revolutionary in the extent it take failed trickle-down economics theory and elevates it to an orthodoxy.

In brief, his budget makes draconian cuts to social programs for children and the poor (Medicare, Medicaid, housing, WIC, Food Stamps, etc.), raises taxes on the middle class and cuts taxes on high earners and corporations – all with the intention of lowering the debt by 5 trillion over a decade. Classic trickle-down with a twist – let the middle-class and poor make up the difference.

Trickle-Down – A Two-Time Loser

Classic trickle-down. The huge problem is that trickle-down is a two time loser. It was used by Reagan in the 80s and Bush in the 2000s. Both times the results were the same – skyrocketing national debt. It is like putting a recession onto a credit card to pay for later.

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By choosing Paul Ryan as his VP, Romney has solidified his Base and doomed the GOP for a Generation (Original Post) thecentristword Aug 2012 OP
I hope this "Centrist" speaks for millions of centrists and independents everywhere. n/t pnwmom Aug 2012 #1
when more people find out about the budget, I think the reaction is going to be stunning thecentristword Aug 2012 #2
Bullshit Doctor_J Aug 2012 #3
Bullshit? Really? thecentristword Aug 2012 #4
WINNER Cosmocat Aug 2012 #13
In Florida cheezmaka Aug 2012 #5
A Florida - Wisconsin swap, maybe thecentristword Aug 2012 #6
After the morning talk shows today.... thecentristword Aug 2012 #7
The Ryan/Rmoney budget is a double dose of trickle down. HooptieWagon Aug 2012 #8
If the centrists and moderate Repubs (if there are any left) Jack Sprat Aug 2012 #9
Instead of his base being solidified. LiberalFighter Aug 2012 #10
A flood of Ryan information hitting the internet thecentristword Aug 2012 #11
It plays right into our hands. sofa king Aug 2012 #12
Not decades. but for this election, yes Cosmocat Aug 2012 #14
And they ALL voted for it. sofa king Aug 2012 #17
The radio news I've heard the last two days seems to be building up Ryan as a saviour to AlinPA Aug 2012 #15
The GOP was "doomed for a generation" after 2008, too DFW Aug 2012 #16

thecentristword

(187 posts)
4. Bullshit? Really?
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 05:54 PM
Aug 2012

I can think of 100 more cultured ways of saying the same thing.

You are right about the media point btw.

Cosmocat

(14,575 posts)
13. WINNER
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:20 AM
Aug 2012

This is likely a BIG mistake in this election, almost assuring BO wins a second term and quite possibly putting the House in play when it likely was not.

But, 2010 should be a very recent and harsh reminder of the republican/liberal media's ability to drive public opinion.

There was NO reason at all to give the Rs any level of power, but the Rs threw a big national hissy fit and the the "liberal media" breathlessly said that their being ANGRY for no particular reason was justification for them to get control in congress. They somehow made fricken HEALTH CARE REFORM into what the Patriot act SHOULD have been - an attack on our liberty.

They got a moron elected president because he was a guy you would like to have a beer with. They spent 8 years making a pretty darn good president's life hell (Clinton) while running around just long enough to get Bush II reelected with the painful "you may not agree with him, he may be 100 percent wrong, but he is sure of himself!" nonsense.

Gore was an infinitely more capable person, but got castigated as arrogant. Kerry served, was wounded in battle and received recognition for it, Bush avoided actual battle because of his family, and somehow Kerry was cast as weak and Bush as someone who kept us safe - when he allowed the worst domestic terror attack on our soil in our history.

They WILL come back. They always do. The media always enables it. What they sell, anger and fear, will ALWAYS appeal to the general populace, and their absolute craven power hungry, do and say ANYTHING to win in the face of the Ds being generally spineless, will always give them an edge.

thecentristword

(187 posts)
6. A Florida - Wisconsin swap, maybe
Sat Aug 11, 2012, 06:56 PM
Aug 2012

but well worth it...

The best thing about it - the DNC convention gets the last word.

thecentristword

(187 posts)
7. After the morning talk shows today....
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 07:16 PM
Aug 2012

I am more convinced than ever - the conversation if going to be the Ryan Budget for the next 3 months!!

Thank you Mitt!

 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
8. The Ryan/Rmoney budget is a double dose of trickle down.
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 07:34 PM
Aug 2012

Its far more extreme than the failed Reagan and Bush plans. Dems need to hammer home that message.

 

Jack Sprat

(2,500 posts)
9. If the centrists and moderate Repubs (if there are any left)
Sun Aug 12, 2012, 08:38 PM
Aug 2012

really want to say bye bye to the teabag movement, they have a chance this election. Being a yellow dog Democrat, I have no idea how they will vote. But here's their opportunity if they need one. Now if they go out and vote for Repubs and teaparty candidates in their House and Senate races, it will change nothing.

thecentristword

(187 posts)
11. A flood of Ryan information hitting the internet
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 07:33 AM
Aug 2012

He doesn't believe in climate change
Two bills passed in 13 years in congress
He voted for ALL of Bush's deficit exploding measures (2 unfunded wars, medicare part d, tax cuts, etc.)

interesting stuff...his choice is starting to seem like more of an act of desperation.....

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
12. It plays right into our hands.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 08:03 AM
Aug 2012

Ryan is virtually the only Republican who dared to assign actual numbers to Republican budget plans. Prior to his awful plan, the Republican "budget proposal" was notable for being a 17-page glossy handout with no actual numbers in it, just a proposal to slash taxes for the rich from 35 percent to 25 percent.

With anyone else, they could have played their usual games of hiding behind previous non-answers and non-responses. But now they have to defend a sociopathic plan to socially engineer the middle class into poverty and the wealthy into godliness.

This really could destroy them for decades. I know for sure that's what President Obama wants to do; he has been setting his traps for two years.

Cosmocat

(14,575 posts)
14. Not decades. but for this election, yes
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:24 AM
Aug 2012

as you noted, the Ryan budget puts into HARD NUMBERS what these lunatics have ALWAYS wanted, but they know full well that people won't support - so you get the flag waving bullshit and social issues meant to cull single issue voters.

They are outed for THIS election, but as 2010 should highlight, they can get their butts handed to them and the "liberal" media will get behind whatever disaster they fabricate to get political advantage - see, Iraq, disaster.

sofa king

(10,857 posts)
17. And they ALL voted for it.
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 10:54 PM
Aug 2012

At least in the House. I think their behavior over these past two years is going to really, really hurt them. But maybe not for decades.

AlinPA

(15,071 posts)
15. The radio news I've heard the last two days seems to be building up Ryan as a saviour to
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:27 AM
Aug 2012

the Romney campaign. They are very enthusiastic about him and it sounds like they are behind the GOP ticket.

DFW

(54,447 posts)
16. The GOP was "doomed for a generation" after 2008, too
Mon Aug 13, 2012, 09:33 AM
Aug 2012

Money buys a lot of life support in politics, and the Republicans have lots of it.

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