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Michael Moore: History was made tonight. (Original Post) madfloridian Oct 2015 OP
yes, indeed. History was made tonight. liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #1
so has the myth that canidates need to sell their soul to win aikanae Oct 2015 #3
I agree. Many Americans were getting their first glimpse of Bernie tonight. I kind of wish he liberal_at_heart Oct 2015 #4
Yes. I donated earlier today and bought a tee-shirt and A YARD SIGN JDPriestly Oct 2015 #5
I got a button & bumper sticker... Ino Oct 2015 #8
Like I have said before. WHEN CRABS ROAR Oct 2015 #33
Let's not get ahead of ourselves. hughee99 Oct 2015 #36
k and fuckin' r cui bono Oct 2015 #2
Thank goodness someone posted something of value in the last twenty minutes Fearless Oct 2015 #6
Yes, my Trash bin runneth over demwing Oct 2015 #22
I love the trash bin and ignore list. My favorite options lately. nt Snotcicles Oct 2015 #24
Yes to this!!! cprise Oct 2015 #7
It's a sad state of affairs in our nation Aerows Oct 2015 #9
Very true. madfloridian Oct 2015 #17
So, is Hillary toast? I did not wach the debate. Helen Borg Oct 2015 #10
No. The Corporate Owned MSM is all in for the Corporate Owned Candidate, Hillary, so in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #12
But of course they are. No surprise. nc4bo Oct 2015 #13
The New York Times Said HRC Won NonMetro Oct 2015 #23
Well said. Flying Shoe Oct 2015 #32
Lessig would have made a big difference in the discussion! Helen Borg Oct 2015 #34
Sloganeering arlington.mass Oct 2015 #38
Nobody is toast this early NewJeffCT Oct 2015 #30
Yes Indeed! Tryng to smear Bernie with the boogieman "Democratic Socialist" label just isn't going in_cog_ni_to Oct 2015 #11
YES. nt LWolf Oct 2015 #14
This should end all of the "Bernie is not a Democrat" equine excrement at the DU forum, as well. Major Hogwash Oct 2015 #15
You are right. It won't. madfloridian Oct 2015 #16
Message auto-removed Name removed Oct 2015 #18
I think you're gonna have to define "appreciate." Ron Green Oct 2015 #19
Did you forget your sarcasm smilie? n/t geardaddy Oct 2015 #21
We are getting there. PowerToThePeople Oct 2015 #20
Hey, Michael! We have had about enough of the alternative! Enthusiast Oct 2015 #25
I want Sanders and Clinton to TEAM UP Sunlei Oct 2015 #26
Clinton has been suggested by someone here on DU as jwirr Oct 2015 #28
Team as President & VP, that team would win easy Sunlei Oct 2015 #29
That is true. jwirr Oct 2015 #35
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT Oct 2015 #27
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Oct 2015 #31
The debate overall a great win for our party, but Bernie's got to represent better for Dem Socialism stuffmatters Oct 2015 #37
Yep, And He Is Only Beholden To The People colsohlibgal Oct 2015 #39
And I say lets keep this train running. YOHABLO Oct 2015 #40
perspective yes, progress from Shrub to Sanity!!! MasonDreams Oct 2015 #41

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
1. yes, indeed. History was made tonight.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 01:31 AM
Oct 2015

With all the support he is getting from the people, the argument that a democratic socialist cannot win has been blown out of the water.

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
4. I agree. Many Americans were getting their first glimpse of Bernie tonight. I kind of wish he
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 02:03 AM
Oct 2015

had talked more about how he is the only candidate who does not have a super PAC. I do like how he gave himself a plug there at the end though. That was funny, and a good reminder. It certainly spurred me to donate again after the debate was over.

JDPriestly

(57,936 posts)
5. Yes. I donated earlier today and bought a tee-shirt and A YARD SIGN
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 02:26 AM
Oct 2015

Can't wait to put up my yard sign and wear my tee-shirt.

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
33. Like I have said before.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 02:57 PM
Oct 2015

Now is the time for a real progressive populist movement, but the message needs to be clear and not overly complex and it needs to be repeated over and over to drive it home into the minds of the people.

Then Bernie will win.

Fearless

(18,421 posts)
6. Thank goodness someone posted something of value in the last twenty minutes
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 02:27 AM
Oct 2015

Instead of spamming the board with barely readable (as in poor quality writing) articles of someone's cut and paste meme based opinion.

 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
9. It's a sad state of affairs in our nation
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 03:54 AM
Oct 2015

when a politician has principles and it's cause for celebration.

Oh, well, I'll take what I got!

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
12. No. The Corporate Owned MSM is all in for the Corporate Owned Candidate, Hillary, so
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:51 AM
Oct 2015

she's still in it. The actual VOTERS,WE THE PEOPLE, chose Bernie as the winner by a HUGE, OVERWHELMING margin, but the CORPORATE OWNED MSM must push their Corporate Owned candidate, Hillary. It's disgusting to watch how blatant they are we're told not to believe our lying eyes (and ears) apparently.

nc4bo

(17,651 posts)
13. But of course they are. No surprise.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 07:32 AM
Oct 2015

Sanders was excellent. He wasn't perfectly practiced but he was genuine.

It's up to voters to separate honesty from bullshit.

NonMetro

(631 posts)
23. The New York Times Said HRC Won
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 11:53 AM
Oct 2015

Wow. Are we surprised or what?

Of course, they also said Carly Fiorina won the Republican one.

Flying Shoe

(23 posts)
32. Well said.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 02:44 PM
Oct 2015

Bernie was great, especially in our eyes, but Hillary has those kinds of one-liners that can blow up an audience. Plus the DNC debate head works for Hillary, Cooper is a member of the Clinton Foundation for crying out loud. That being said, many people saw Bernie and his message for the first time. That could do a lot of good.

 

arlington.mass

(41 posts)
38. Sloganeering
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:47 PM
Oct 2015

She is an expert sloganeer

She is also an expert at dodging a question

She has perfected the non-answer

She actually turned a question about gun control legislation into a boisterous attack on pro-lifers / defense of planned parenthood to thunderous applause...still didn't answer the question and AC quickly moved on

NewJeffCT

(56,829 posts)
30. Nobody is toast this early
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 02:40 PM
Oct 2015

unless they're down in the 1-2% range like Scott Walker.

In November 2003, Howard Dean was the clear frontrunner for the Democratic nomination - Dean had 29%, Dick Gephardt had 21%, John Kerry was at 15% and John Edwards was at 8%.

In October, Gephardt was at 27% and Dean 26%

In December, Kerry had dropped to 9%, Dean was at 26%, Gephardt at 22% and John Edwards at 5%.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Democratic_Party_presidential_primaries,_2004

in_cog_ni_to

(41,600 posts)
11. Yes Indeed! Tryng to smear Bernie with the boogieman "Democratic Socialist" label just isn't going
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 05:43 AM
Oct 2015

work. No one cares. If the greedy Wall St., Big Oil, Big Ag, Big Pharma Capitalists hadn't been so greedy by having to have it all, more, more, more, me, me, me - perhaps things would be different. Since CAPITALISM has obviously failed and everyone knows it, that "Democratic Socialist" tag is looking pretty good to them.

People know Bernie. People know he's good. People know he's served in Congress for 25 years. They know he's not some loony communist hell-bent on destroying this country.

Sorry folks, you're going to have to think of new angles to attack Bernie because the people seem to like what they heard.

Major Hogwash

(17,656 posts)
15. This should end all of the "Bernie is not a Democrat" equine excrement at the DU forum, as well.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 08:56 AM
Oct 2015

But, it probably won't.

Response to madfloridian (Original post)

 

PowerToThePeople

(9,610 posts)
20. We are getting there.
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 10:39 AM
Oct 2015

Much more needs to happen. The conservatives of both parties will try their best to stop it. It will not be stopped.

stuffmatters

(2,574 posts)
37. The debate overall a great win for our party, but Bernie's got to represent better for Dem Socialism
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 07:11 PM
Oct 2015

And his record.He's got to "defang" that simple minded attack. Cooper," a Vanderbilt heir," as Patton Oswald tweeted, attacked Bernie for being a socialist! Also threw in a couple slurs about "honeymooning in Russia' and being a conscientious objector. Bernie seemed caught off guard, maybe because of the personal honeymoon reference. (It was actually one of those mayoral sister cities delegation so many mayors took in the eighties)

Time for Bernie to mention that the American working class is already massively financing socialism for the rich without enjoying any benefit from that. In our currently rigged system, corporate profits are privatized and hoarded offshore but corporate losses socialized & thrown onto the American working class to pick up the enormous tab. For example our socialized economy for the elite supports a tax code that rewards money making money over honest labor; this legalized corporate tax evasion greatly handicaps small businesses trying to compete with tax subsidized corps.

Bernie also doesn't need to stretch so often to Nordic countries to explain the benefits of Dem Socialism, where taxpayers actually enjoy enormous benefits from the taxes they pay. Medicare and social security, despite 75 years of Republicans and the wealthy trying to dismantle them, are easily understandable and respected examples of government programs that work for everyone. Their only financial challenges come from the wealthy and corporations driving to minimize their automatic contributions, which is why we need to scrap the cap for both millionaires and corporations.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
39. Yep, And He Is Only Beholden To The People
Wed Oct 14, 2015, 10:45 PM
Oct 2015

As opposed to Hillary, Wall Street, the Defense/Security Complex, all that Big Business plutocrat money comes with strings attached.

Legalized bribery, but Bernie is getting his cash from we the people, no Super Pac money.

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