Tulsi Gabbard was in fact "DIS-invited" from Democratic Vegas Debate by DWS

[99th_Monkey]

For those who may have missed this, here it is. The short version, from youtube,
plus a link to the entire interview below, which is well worth watching, with
Chris Hayes last night.

This segment from Chris Hayes is over 6 minutes long, the part about Gabbard being disinvited
starts about 2 minutes into the clip, and she goes on for over 4 minutes, really spilling the beans
on how utterly petty & vindictive DWS is being about the whole debate debacle. It's really worth
watching. I think she should be DNC Chair.
http://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/tulsi-gabbard-disinvited-from-democratic-debate-543316035648

[Peacetrain]

1. I just saw that on TV and I am so mad right now

smoke is coming out my ears...What the hell is that all about.. In 2008 we had 9 debates already on the Democratic side.. if DWS is shilling for HRC it will do nothing but hurt her in the long run.. HRC is as good as it gets when it comes to debates.. she can take the heat..

[99th_Monkey]

2. I hear you. But I suspect that tone-deaf DWS will not.

[roguevalley]

8. let her office and the DNC know

Schultz: https://wassermanschultz.house.gov/email-me/ (zip: 33026)

DNC: http://my.democrats.org/page/s/contact-the-democrats

[NCjack]

16. The Chair of the DNC works for Pres. Obama. He apparently is satisfied. Writing to her

will do no good. Instead, write to the President and copy her.

[merrily]

33. Writing lets them know we're watching and not brain dead, which is a good thing, I guess.

Aside from that, writing to him will do no good either. It's not as though he knows less about what is going one than DU does.

I think all our elected officials in D.C. could care less what we think. If I ever had any doubt, the public option bit ended it. 350 million people, give or take, in the US. Let's say 100 million of them are adults. How may would have to contact the President in order for it to make a dent?

I think we need to stop kidding ourselves that contacting them moves the needle and find other ways to get their attention. Unfortunately, even ending donations does not much matter as ordinary citizens are not their main source of revenues anymore. They want us donating so that we feel invested, but that's about it--except for Bernie, who really needs our $2700 or whatever we can give.

[NCjack]

36. The answer is Bernie!

[merrily]

41. That's the fact, Jack!

[NCjack]

46. LOL -- thanks. My daughter and I watched that movie just

before she entered the US Army. She served in Croatia and Iraq -- came home safe.

[merrily]

47. I am so glad to hear that she came home safe.

[Luminous Animal]

38. Actually, Obama is not satisfied and wanted to get rid of her in 2013.

[NCjack]

44. Pres. Obama appointed her to be chair in 2011, and he can replace her

if he wishes. The problem is that Debbie wants the job as a stepping stone in her political career, and she is playing hardball to keep it. She can redeem herself if HRC is elected President after being responsible for mismanaging support for DEMs in 2012 and 2014. Pres. Obama and V.P. Biden don't want to deal with the shit storm that she would cause if she were replaced. So, Pres. Obama is "satisfied" with her performance. My opinion is that no amount of letters to the President or Chair of NDC will cause any change. Debbie is in control and she has an agenda. Anyone getting in her way will be roadkill.

[merrily]

49. I believe who heads the DNC is the call of the head of the Dem Party, who is the Dem POTUS.

[rhett o rick]

59. I think there is a great misconception as to what powers the President has and doesn't have.

The Oligarchs like DWS so she stays.

[Aerows]

22. DWS is an idiot

that doesn't have enough faith that HRC can deal with debates.

[merrily]

51. After running for POTUS since 2006, etc., Hillary

announced with very high poll numbers. She could go only down from there. At that point, every time you open your mouth, you risk losing something.

[ibegurpard]

4. People here were trying to say it wasn't true

Or that she was publicly dissing her "boss"...
Whatever lies work for them I guess.

[99th_Monkey]

6. I saw those weird comments too -by Hilllary supporters- saw them BEFORE seeing Gabbard on MSNBC

then OMFG!! There Gabbard was - right in front of my eyes - completely destroying
that "disgruntled, dissing her boss" meme. It was like a huge breath of fresh air filled
my psyche with oxygen of truth, honesty and a love for democracy.

Gabbard's commentary on this, later in Hayes' extended 4-minute interview, is truly
moving & inspirational. I love this woman, and want her as DNC Chair.

BTW - did you hear? Bernie called Rep. Gabbard immediately as this was breaking,
and said "hey No problem, we have an admission ticket reserved for you", and I
think Gabbard is taking him up on it.

[SamKnause]

5. Rep. Gabbard is massively impressive !!!!

Her speech, tone, pitch, and pronunciation is pleasing to the ears.

She showed she was interested in truth, not mudslinging.

Her demeanor showed integrity.

The DNC and Debbie Wasserman Schultz should be ashamed

and embarrassed.

I am positive they are neither.

[99th_Monkey]

7. That was my take too, on Gabbard. She's freaking awesome.

I had never heard of her. A member of the House of Representatives from Hawaii.

As you say, a very impressive speaker she is.

[Hortensis]

9. I'm massively unimpressed with this ambitious person's self aggrandizing behavior,

manufacturing this unseemly situation to push herself in front of a national media focused on the debate. She could have "quarreled" and run to the cameras any time in the past few months, but she chose the day before the first debate. I am absolutely sure that she would have called for cancelling all debates if THAT would have worked better.

We should recognize people to admire -- or reject! -- by their behavior, not by how they look in front of TV cameras. Isn't it supposed to be the Republicans who are so foolish and irresponsible as to elevate Sarah Palins and Carly Fiorinas to star status?

We're the Democrats. The smart ones. Right?

[Fumesucker]

10. It takes two to argue

This wouldn't be all over the news right now but for DWS's actions in disinviting Ms Gabbard.

[Hortensis]

35. No. Don't be so easily manipulated. You guys didn't know Gabbard's

name until she pulled this petty, shabby little trick and ran to the cameras.

[frylock]

39. Don't be so easily manipulated? Ummm... o-kayyyyyyyy...?

Don't know what the fuck her noteriety, or lack thereof has to do with anything. The "petty, shabby little trick" was Debbie Waterboy's punitive action against Ms. Gabbard's perceived insolence.

[questionseverything]

42. gabbards is sticking up for we the people,as she should

dws needs to GO...we do not care where ,just that she is GONE

[Hortensis]

45. Manipulate: Control or influence cleverly, unfairly, or unscrupulously.

[questionseverything]

48. no one needs to manipulate me into believing in the 1st amendment

as the representative from hawaii points out...to punish candidates for accepting invitations to unofficial (non dnc) debates is undemocratic...i will ad unconstitutional

to have the democratic party involved in limiting free speech breaks my heart

[Hortensis]

54. Questionseverything, you forgot to question Gabbards. You know,

all she did was set herself up as the enemy of someone many here dislike and all of a sudden a whole group of them fell in her lap. Like shooting fish in a barrel.

Since you question everything, you might want to count up a few of the people and groups who are really vociferously disliked here and question how often over the next year contrived attacks on them may be used to lead hostile DUers around by the nose. And most important of all: To what purpose? WHAT is the hostile ones' support going to empower?

[questionseverything]

55. i do not need to question gabbards since she repeated what i have been saying for months now

i know who i am and i believe in the first amendment...no word salad is going to change that

[Hortensis]

56. A politician told you what you wanted to hear, and you didn't question why?

Her behavior in this instance is not honorable. Did you question if this was the first time?

Notably, Gabbard gave up all of her power but her actual vote to influence the decisions of the DNC when she broke with and antagonized all her fellow committee members in public. What does she intend to get in return for undermining the Democratic Party while it's battling the GOP for the future of America, QuestionsEverything?

You have, of course, found out that she is running for reelection this year, having decided not to go after Senator Schatz's seat this time around. And that she's not all that popular with the left in Hawaii? Among other things, although ex-military herself, she was one of two Democrats who voted with House Republicans to condemn President Obama for bringing Sergeant Bowe Bergdahl home? That move to the right was back when she was believed to be angling for Senator Schatz's seat and needed to appeal to the right wing.

[questionseverything]

57. listen if you do not believe in freedom of speech that is up to you

the people undermining the democratic party are the ones keeping them from debating

she is still in the military,she received a promotion yesterday

keep at it, so far you have made it clear the dnc does not respect the ideas put forward in the bill of rights or the military

[Hortensis]

58. Enjoy the debate, Everything.

[Timma]

62. Rachel Maddow featured her a year or two ago

and said (presciently), "Watch this woman".

So many people knew not only her name, but her principles and potential as well.

[Hortensis]

63. Rachel has a way of doing that. A little searching on

Gabbard name revealed to me that a lot of people in Hawaii were plenty wary of her before she ever showed up on the continent.

I was looking for a picture of a GOP potential presidential lineup just the other day, don't remember the search terms, but darned if Gabbard wasn't in some of them. Huh? I can't say, in an era of Carsons and Fiorinas, that I admire her for managing to worm her name in.

[99th_Monkey]

11. Well, DWS chose the date & time to DIS-invite Rep. Gabbard, not the other way around.

Schultz has no one but herself to blame for this blowing up in her face.

[jeff47]

12. Some of us are the smart ones.

Then there's people like DWS, blasting away at their feet.

[7962]

15. You forgot the "sarcasm" emoji. Because there's no way you can be serious. nt

[Luminous Animal]

18. She has been vocal about her desire for more debates since the beginning of September...

and no DUer made any remark about how she looks on camera.

[7962]

13. Why didnt anyone believe it to start with? SOP for DWS nt

[99th_Monkey]

17. I got caught unawares in a fire-storm of OUTRAGE! about how "this story has been debunked!!!"

before I even knew WTF the whole thing was about. It was intense white-hot vitriol.

Wow, when DNC/DWS anti-democratic behavior is called-out & exposed for what it is,
ouch, it must have hit raw nerve.

[7962]

26. Knee-jerkers. I saw no reason to doubt it from the start.

But lots of folks here are very touchy about their particular ox being gored. And some have a LOT of 'em

[Unknown Beatle]

14. DWS is like a spoiled high school girl

who manages her Facebook page very carefully. Inviting people that she likes and uninviting people that she gets tired of, and throwing a tantrum if she doesn't get her way.

[Android3.14]

19. This may be a common characteristic that HRC exudes to many of her followers

It's sad that the person circling the bowl to be the first female US president is someone as lame, untrustworthy, and bought as Clinton.

[pinebox]

21. Speaking of her facebook page

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Damn she is feeling the heat bad. Good, she needs to be. Read replies in any and all of her posts https://www.facebook.com/RepDebbieWassermanSchultz?fref=ts

[questionseverything]

40. wowzers

[FBaggins]

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Okay, I get why people, especially Supporters of Senator Sanders, are not happy with her. Her actions do warrent scrutiny, and does deserve to be addressed. However, "Spoiled High school school girl"???

No matter what your politics are, misogynistic comments should NEVER be an acceptable form of attack on any site that would call itself liberal or progressive.

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Reminds me of a scene from The West Wing:

Relevant material at about 20 seconds and 1:45

[7962]

28. One of the LAMEST alerts in the past few weeks. Even the 1 vote couldnt give a reason

But we, & the media, were warned by clinton operatives early on that pretty much ANY negative word against Hillary would be viewed as sexist/misogynistic etc.
Cant stand the heat, get out of the kitchen!

[Bread and Circus]

20. Sounds kind of outrageous. Aren't we supposed to be the "Democratic" Party

[AzDar]

23. Wow. So fucking PETTY.

[WillyT]

25. HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!!

[Uncle Joe]

27. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, 99th Monkey.

[winter is coming]

29. Apparently, some big tents are larger than others. n/t

[ChiciB1]

30. WELL, To Everyone Who Told Me I Was Lying Or It Was Just

a "rumor" I'll repeat what I said last night. LOOK a little further and you might "see" her say the words herself!

[JDPriestly]

31. Debbie Wasserman Schultz should resign.

She is not the chair of the entire Democratic Party.

She is the chair of one wing of the Democratic Party, and it is clearly not ethical for her to continue in her position.

She should in-so-far as the Party is concerned be tolerant of all views and partial to no candidate or specific vision of the Party's future.

This is unacceptable.

Debbie Wasserman Schultz should explain and apologize.

[Indepatriot]

32. I'n sure neither Hillary nor Debbie had anything to do with this.....

[LiberalLovinLug]

34. I really hope someone asks the candidates

If they are in favor of more debates. Just to get it on record.

So far the only one to not have an answer is Hillary, so I'd love to see her put on the spot. I'm sure she'd stutter out a "...a a a sure, if that could be agreed on and possible...of course"

[99th_Monkey]

37. I think she did mutter under here breath something

To the effect that she'd "be open" to more. I'd expect her to mutter that again, for cover.

[GoneOffShore]

43. It's almost possible to smell the desperation coming from the DNC.

[Aerows]

53. They are scared Hillary will fumble

and they are out of a cushy Cabinet and staff job.

[jfern]

50. Hillary really seems to attract liars

[moobu2]

52. Who? Never heard of her.

[emsimon33]

60. DWS is just another bad Obama appointment

[Babel_17]

61. K&R in support (nt)