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Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 07:06 PM Aug 2012

Another Politifact "Politifail"!



http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/06/harry-reid/harry-reid-says-anonymous-source-told-him-mitt-rom/

"Harry Reid says anonymous source told him Mitt Romney didn't pay taxes for 10 years"

Politifact's Ruling: "We find no evidence for Harry Reid's claim that Mitt Romney paid no taxes for 10 years. Pants on Fire."

Except that Politifact: a.) Did not fact-check Reid's actual claim because, as we know, Romney hasn't given any tax returns to fact-check and b.) Did not fact-check Reid's claim that an anonymous source shared this information with him.

The major problem is, of course, that the jury is still out on Romney's tax situation because he's barely released any so far, so Reid's claim (or, more correctly, the claim made by this anonymous source) has NOT been proved OR disproved and thus should not be subject to a "Pants on Fire" ruling IMHO.



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Another Politifact "Politifail"! (Original Post) Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 OP
From this cleduc Aug 2012 #1
But if Politifact HASN'T found anything with which to REFUTE Reid's claim rocktivity Aug 2012 #2
Hey Politifact - YOUR pants are on fire. Zoeisright Aug 2012 #3
PLUTOCRATS can Kiss My A_ _ chille1 Aug 2012 #4
Hey Politifacts ... 1StrongBlackMan Aug 2012 #5
+1 Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2012 #10
WOW bongbong Aug 2012 #6
Rachel Maddow has called out Politifact so many times she doesn't even consider it jenmito Aug 2012 #7
Time Will Tell...most likely..nt Stuart G Aug 2012 #8
So ... when Reid's found to be telling the truth, and Romney's found to be lying yet again ... zbdent Aug 2012 #9
We have two competing claims... Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #11
As Rachel has said, Politifact sucks. sakabatou Aug 2012 #12
 

cleduc

(653 posts)
1. From this
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 07:11 PM
Aug 2012
Politifact's Ruling: "We find no evidence for Harry Reid's claim that Mitt Romney paid no taxes for 10 years. Pants on Fire."


In order to 'convict' with "Pants on Fire", don't they need evidence that Reid lied? I'd say they do. And they didn't present a shred of evidence that Reid lied. They didn't refute his account. And they didn't show us the 10 years of Romney's tax returns showing he paid taxes.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
2. But if Politifact HASN'T found anything with which to REFUTE Reid's claim
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 07:11 PM
Aug 2012

HOW DO THEY KNOW HE'S LYING???


rocktivity

chille1

(73 posts)
4. PLUTOCRATS can Kiss My A_ _
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 07:19 PM
Aug 2012

Have we become so caught up in what the M.S.M a.k.a 1 % Er's are telling us which story is to be discussed Romney is lien end of story. there is nothing else to be said unless he releases his returns ,We dint have to defend our right to know the truth ! Whatever happen to the fact the Romney didn't leave Bani Capital when he said he did ,and continued to do business after 1999 ,or the fact that Romney is being supported by Billionaires who are under investigation for various crimes whether Reid's accusations are valid or not doesn't matter the M.S.M just want you,Me and everyone to think so Romney is a crook ...........!

 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
5. Hey Politifacts ...
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 07:23 PM
Aug 2012

We find no evidence that you are NOT on the romney campaign's payroll ... therefore we rule any and ever claim that you make to the contrary, short of producing the romney campaign and all of the gop-supporting superpacs' checkbook registers, to be Pants On Fire statements.

But then again, I never really looked into the claim.

See how easy it is to play unbiased fact-checking news source?

 

bongbong

(5,436 posts)
6. WOW
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 07:33 PM
Aug 2012

The MSM and all the usual suspects really are carrying Flip-Flopper's water. Even 2nd graders know you can't prove a negative.

jenmito

(37,326 posts)
7. Rachel Maddow has called out Politifact so many times she doesn't even consider it
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 07:38 PM
Aug 2012

a true fact-finding site.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
9. So ... when Reid's found to be telling the truth, and Romney's found to be lying yet again ...
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 07:42 PM
Aug 2012

are we going to get an "apology" from Politifact?

Or is it going to be yet another Republican/Teabagger/Conservative non-apology "apology"?

Jeff In Milwaukee

(13,992 posts)
11. We have two competing claims...
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 10:46 PM
Aug 2012

Reid: Romney has paid no taxes at all, according to an anonymous source.
Romney: I paid plenty of taxes, according to my tax returns.

Reid won't reveal his source, and Romney won't reveal his.

I think we're pretty much at a stand-off. So how does Reid get "Pants on Fire" and Romney doesn't.

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