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hedgehog

(36,286 posts)
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:19 PM Aug 2012

Suppose Romney releases the tax returns - which finding would be the worst outcome for him:

Of these possible scenarios regarding Romney's taxes; which one would enrage the most people?


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Romney cheated on his taxes
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Romney used perfectly legal loopholes to pay little or nothing
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Other possibility - please describe
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Romney used a tax amnesty to avoid being charges with a felony.
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Suppose Romney releases the tax returns - which finding would be the worst outcome for him: (Original Post) hedgehog Aug 2012 OP
Romney and his ilk will feel the most pain if it becomes clear to the American People.... Scuba Aug 2012 #1
He's dug in deep. The biggest problem for him is that someone else has copies of those returns, MADem Aug 2012 #2
paid the full 39% under Clinton Skink Aug 2012 #3
Romney's tax forms CANNOT show that he "cheated"... brooklynite Aug 2012 #4
It seems unlikely that he actually "cheated"..... Wounded Bear Aug 2012 #5
Number two rocktivity Aug 2012 #6
Wrote off Hookers as an entertainment expense (nt) Jeff In Milwaukee Aug 2012 #7
The tax returns may show that he was less than truthful about .. Evergreen Emerald Aug 2012 #8
 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
1. Romney and his ilk will feel the most pain if it becomes clear to the American People....
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:23 PM
Aug 2012

... that the wealthy have rigged the system. Legally paying zero taxes will hurt Mitt less politically than being caught cheating, but hurt him and others in the wallet when the People wake up and fix the problem.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
2. He's dug in deep. The biggest problem for him is that someone else has copies of those returns,
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:24 PM
Aug 2012

and they just might release them, because he will never willingly release those things.

Such a release would have to be a "Taxy-leaks" effort, as it were. It wouldn't surprise me if something like that--at least in part--has already happened, which accounts for some of the pointed questions rMoney has gotten lately. Reporters can't validate the accuracy of the documents, but they can use them to ask very specific questions about his tax rate, etc.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
4. Romney's tax forms CANNOT show that he "cheated"...
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:28 PM
Aug 2012

...because all they show is what he submitted and claimed, per the forms. The only way to show cheating is to check the source data (income records, bank statements, etc) which are not part of the tax records.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
5. It seems unlikely that he actually "cheated".....
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:28 PM
Aug 2012

after all, they are official documents and he has a legal staff to file them for him. I find it doubtful that anything illegal is in there.

However, releasing them would showcase how many and what type of loopholes the wealthy in this country take advantage of, including his dressage horse "business." In effect, he is defending his whole class. It's somewhat like when an athlete holds out for a few extra million bucks on his contract. He's trying to raise the bar for his peers as well as pad his own purse.

There is the whole "I wasn't working for Bain" angle, too. His tax returns likely show income from Bain, and more than just "hands off" dividends of a disassociated investor type.

I doubt there are any illegalities in there, but there are probably (almost certainly?) a LOT of embarrassing facts he doesn't want exposed.

Having said all that, I guess there might be one legal problem in them, relating to his residency requirement to be governor of Massachusetts. It would be delicious irony to prove he was illegally elected.

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
6. Number two
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 12:35 PM
Aug 2012

because (as Harry Reid has insinuated) if he paid "little or nothing" in income taxes, he paid only ten per cent of that to their Mormon church.


rocktivity

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
8. The tax returns may show that he was less than truthful about ..
Mon Aug 6, 2012, 01:29 PM
Aug 2012

1. His net worth
2. The amount he paid in taxes
3. many many tax havens
4. And most importantly, his residency during his prior runs for state office.

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