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book_worm

(15,951 posts)
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 09:12 AM Oct 2015

New NBC-Marist Polls have HRC leading in Iowa and Bernie leading in NH

A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll in New Hampshire finds Donald Trump leading the GOP field with 21%, followed by Carly Fiorina at 16%, Jeb Bush at 11%, Marco Rubio at 10% and Ben Carson at 10%.

On the Democratic side, Bernie Sanders leads Hillary Clinton by nine points, 48% to 39%

http://politicalwire.com/2015/10/04/trump-leads-in-new-hampshire-3/

A new NBC News/Wall Street Journal/Marist poll in Iowa finds Donald Trump leading the GOP field with 24%, followed by Ben Carson at 19%, Carly Fiorina at 8%, Jeb Bush at 7%, Ted Cruz at 6%, Marco Rubio at 6% and Bobby Jindal at 6%.

On the Democratic side, Hillary Clinton leads with 47 percent followed by Bernie Sanders at 36%.

http://politicalwire.com/2015/10/04/trump-leads-in-iowa-2/

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New NBC-Marist Polls have HRC leading in Iowa and Bernie leading in NH (Original Post) book_worm Oct 2015 OP
Quinnipiac and CBS had Sanders ahead In Iowa energy_model Oct 2015 #1
PPP also had Clinton ahead in a recent Iowa Poll. book_worm Oct 2015 #2
All without a single ad buy by Sanders Fearless Oct 2015 #3
Because word of mouth is proving to be NorthCarolina Oct 2015 #4
K&R! stonecutter357 Oct 2015 #5
The undecideds seem to me to have gotten bigger in recent polling HereSince1628 Oct 2015 #6
Looks like Bernie Sanders peaked too early. moobu2 Oct 2015 #7
Hillary has always had the lead in Iowa kenn3d Oct 2015 #8
I think the main point from all these latest polls is that the Bernie surge has stalled... DCBob Oct 2015 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #9
Sanders lead in NH rises (a little more) kenn3d Oct 2015 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author BlueWaveDem Oct 2015 #12

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
6. The undecideds seem to me to have gotten bigger in recent polling
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:15 AM
Oct 2015

They were getting pretty small in early Sep.

Anyone else noticing this?

kenn3d

(486 posts)
8. Hillary has always had the lead in Iowa
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 11:36 AM
Oct 2015

Technically (and actually) Hillary has always had the lead in Iowa.

On April 30th when Sanders first announced, the RealClearPolitics aggregate polls had her ahead by 54.2%.
Clinton 60.8 to Sanders 6.6


By September 15 however, RCP was reporting that aggregate spread had closed to 0%.
Clinton 37 to Sanders 37


That statistical tie may have been a bit over-optimistic in Sanders' favor however. There were 2 polls in early Sept which had Bernie ahead by 1 point (Quinnipiac), and 10 points (CBS/YouGov) respectively, but the CBS poll sure looked like an outlier and even so, the aggregate spreads have never actually shown him in the lead. The current spread of Clinton +6.3, based on 4 polls released over the past 30 days, is much more likely. But even that still includes the questionable CBS/YouGov data, so I believe that she's actually up by somewhat more than that.

It can't be denied that Sanders has come on VERY strong however, much the same as he did in NH, and she has upped her burn rate a bunch to not completely lose her grip over Iowa as well. It's a race, and you have to respect Sanders' truly remarkable run at it. He's all but completely closed a 54 pt gap in just 4 months, and/but the Caucus is still 4 months away of course.

Nevertheless, she has always been ahead. She's still ahead. She hasn't "taken the lead"... and she hasn't even "re-taken the lead". Nor is it certain that Sanders will ever overtake her. Just continue to watch the trends, and don't be misled by any single or "latest" poll. This is and always has been her race to lose, and Bernie is not going away.

Stay tuned friends.


DCBob

(24,689 posts)
10. I think the main point from all these latest polls is that the Bernie surge has stalled...
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:02 PM
Oct 2015

and may be in reverse in some states.

Response to book_worm (Original post)

kenn3d

(486 posts)
11. Sanders lead in NH rises (a little more)
Sun Oct 4, 2015, 01:42 PM
Oct 2015
Sanders composite lead in NH increased to +11.2 (including Biden)

From the NBC/Marist pdf (without Biden) his lead drops back to +9 :
Sanders 48
Clinton 39

Chafee 2
O'Malley 2
Webb 1
Undecided 9
https://www.scribd.com/doc/283603493/GOP-DEM-PRIMARY-NBC-News-WSJ-Marist-Poll-New-Hampshire-Annotated-Questionnaire-October-2015

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