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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 05:02 PM Sep 2015

Vox: CNN is basically begging Joe Biden to join its Democratic debate

Vox: CNN is basically begging Joe Biden to join its Democratic debate

The criteria are quite simple. Essentially, all you have to do is hit an average of 1 percent support in three national polls from CNN's approved list of organizations, which Biden has already done. After that, you just have to say you'll declare your candidacy to the FEC by Wednesday, October 14 — the day after the debate.

This is quite unlike the rules CNN set for its Republican presidential debate earlier this month. In addition to reaching a poll threshold, candidates had to officially file with the FEC and say they were running three weeks before the debate. They also had to have a paid campaign aide working in at least two of the four early voting states (Iowa, New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada). And they had to have visited two of those states at least once.

But the disparity between CNN's own Republican and Democratic qualifying rules is just the latest to raise some uncomfortable questions about the role of ratings-hungry cable networks in these increasingly important debates. Indeed, neither Fox News nor CNN has yet managed to lay out clear qualifying rules for a debate well in advance and stick to them.

CNN's rather late announcement of these Democratic debate rules is just the latest in this pattern. Once again, there's a lack of transparency. The debate is only 15 days away, and the qualifying rules are just being announced now. Once again, the rules seem to be designed to benefit one person in particular — in a way that just so happens to seem likely to boost ratings.


I say lets give all debates back the the League of Women Voters.
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Vox: CNN is basically begging Joe Biden to join its Democratic debate (Original Post) portlander23 Sep 2015 OP
Definitely bring back the League of Women Voters..... daleanime Sep 2015 #1
Well that's why they lost their control over Presidential debates. n/t PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #10
The League did not "lose control", they walked away from the debates and refused to sanction them Fumesucker Sep 2015 #12
Here's the explanation page from The League... PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #14
Which is why we need them back. daleanime Sep 2015 #16
Did the LWV ever run a Primary debate? brooklynite Sep 2015 #17
As long as they ran honest debates.... daleanime Sep 2015 #18
And the content of LWV debates was any different? brooklynite Sep 2015 #19
My friend, if that question is in ernest..... daleanime Sep 2015 #20
Im deadly serious... brooklynite Sep 2015 #21
So you think the LWV walked away from the debates.... daleanime Sep 2015 #22
+1000. Just another shameful and corrupting twist to what our elections have become. Hortensis Sep 2015 #2
Increasingly the MSM outlets CREATE a story instead of REPORTING on a story. Metric System Sep 2015 #3
Neither party will give the debates back Kelvin Mace Sep 2015 #4
Interesting how "the rules" show up just in time to fit whatever narrative PTB/M$M want to spin -nt- 99th_Monkey Sep 2015 #5
crookedest debates ever reddread Sep 2015 #6
Thank you for recognizing the role of media consolidation in the current mess. senz Sep 2015 #13
CNN needs to quit trying to steer politics and just report on it. From the sidelines. nt Snotcicles Sep 2015 #7
Wow, the day after the debate? jfern Sep 2015 #8
CNN is crappy news kenfrequed Sep 2015 #9
The League stepped away from the debates rather than the other way around Fumesucker Sep 2015 #11
If they could be given major control, they might be. senz Sep 2015 #15

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
1. Definitely bring back the League of Women Voters.....
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 05:08 PM
Sep 2015

they run honest debates, not sound bite competitions.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
12. The League did not "lose control", they walked away from the debates and refused to sanction them
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 08:20 PM
Sep 2015

Because of the demands of the Republican and Democratic parties...

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
14. Here's the explanation page from The League...
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 08:30 PM
Sep 2015
http://library.lwv.org/content/lwv-presidential-debates

Note that the Commission on Presidential Debates was established and took control of the debates away
from The League. The Commission selected The League to sponsor the last debate in 1988 but The League
refused due to conditions imposed on them.

daleanime

(17,796 posts)
18. As long as they ran honest debates....
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 09:12 PM
Sep 2015

would that matter?

I can't be the only one tired of politicians thinking that trading sound bites passes for real debate.

brooklynite

(94,729 posts)
21. Im deadly serious...
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 09:40 PM
Sep 2015

I remember the LWV debaters, and they were the same 2 min answer/1 min response formats. There was nothing dynamically different, other than the decision as to who got in, which isn't relevant today.

 

Kelvin Mace

(17,469 posts)
4. Neither party will give the debates back
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 05:42 PM
Sep 2015

because their corporate masters do NOT want honest debates of substance.

 

reddread

(6,896 posts)
6. crookedest debates ever
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 07:54 PM
Sep 2015

what is really fueling this election is media consolidation.
ill be looking forward to those questions, CNN, TIA!

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
13. Thank you for recognizing the role of media consolidation in the current mess.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 08:29 PM
Sep 2015

The 4th Estate used to serve as a balance to elite power. Now they are elite power.

kenfrequed

(7,865 posts)
9. CNN is crappy news
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 08:13 PM
Sep 2015

They really, really don't like Sanders very much and desperately want another candidate in the race that will act like the kinds of candidates they prefer that play the "he said/she said" negative spinmeister bull.

They do not like candidates that pivot to the issues or that fixate on policy that makes them have to do research when asking their questions. They also don't like candidates that threaten their ad revenue.

Fumesucker

(45,851 posts)
11. The League stepped away from the debates rather than the other way around
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 08:18 PM
Sep 2015

The reason being they said the parties were corrupting the debate process.

I don't think the League would be interested in having anything to do with the "debates" as they are currently arranged by the party.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
15. If they could be given major control, they might be.
Mon Sep 28, 2015, 08:31 PM
Sep 2015

If they're still as fair as they used to be, I could go along with it. What we have now is a farce.

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