2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumSanders Statement on Speaker Boehner's Resignation
Friday, September 25, 2015
It appears that even a very conservative speaker like John Boehner is unable to control the extreme right-wing drift of Republicans in the House. This is a party whose ideology is way out of touch with the American people. Without Boehner, it may get even worse.
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aidbo
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PatrynXX
(5,668 posts)would help us out alot. was watching old videotapes with Waco on them. not our finest hour. and I never liked Janet Reno from then on either.
JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,389 posts)you know that.
starroute
(12,977 posts)The post to which it was a reply said, "Boehner's tired of corralling the insane mental patients, so he's letting it go."
Uncle Joe
(58,389 posts)Thanks for alerting me to my mistake, starroute.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)Peace.
Uncle Joe
(58,389 posts)Peace to you.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,389 posts)RoccoR5955
(12,471 posts)He's backing off, so that he can drink full time.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)I thought maybe he was fearing for his mortal soul for all of the crooked, evil, mean, heartless shite he has done and the Pope brought it all home to him. Too bad, it would be better for him if that had been the reason!
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)the anti poor, anti-the-most-vulnerable members of society, which the Pope has lambasted powerful Catholics for, policies due to the Koch Bros Tea Party who make Boehner look like a liberal.
But that's wishful thinking, that he might have had a divine intervention and was conscience stricken about all the anti-Christian policies he supported throughout his career.
It's more likely that he hopes that without him to push around the extremists will destroy each other or at least people will get a good unfiltered look at what they have supported.
Whatever the reason I can't say I blame him. I even felt a bit sorry for him as he must have had pangs of conscience as he listened to the pope talk about the very issues he has opposed all of his life. That has to be painful.
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)... That is what first came to mind. I read the msnbc article where near the end of the page, it says that Pope Francis had met with Boehner the day before the joint session of Congress speech. The Pope had told Boehner, "to pray for me".
I remarked to a few of my relatives (north american baptists) that the bible tells us to pray for our enemies, to ask Jesus to give them understanding...
Perhaps a nasty inside joke I played there...
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)Last edited Sat Oct 3, 2015, 08:15 AM - Edit history (1)
You really hit a good point there about praying for our enemies. One of the problems so many Evangelicals make today. Instead they hate.
Follow Jesus words. They make sense whether you are a believer or not.
Do unto others. It comes back to you.
And, besides,it makes them angrier than anything you can do. Joke there,folks. Do not take that last part seriously.
Dustlawyer
(10,497 posts)He sold out, blocked good policy and pushed bad policy that favored Special Interests.
Curious which company will give him his pay off and hire him to drink and play golf with his buddies.
True Blue American
(17,988 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)He knows that shutting the gov down over Planned Parenthood would be a disaster for the country and for his party (such as the GOP is). The only way he could prevent a shut down is to get Pelosi and the Dems to help him (and our country). That would then be a clarion call for the wingnuts to call for a motion to vacate the Speaker's chair. Essentially, he would probably lose his Speakership anyway. So take one for the team, fall on his sword, etc. But go out doing a good dead for his country and for the institution. The irony is that a CR would only get us to the end of December. And then bang! The wingnuts are back again with some faux outrage to shut the gov down. That's how sad all this is. Big sacrifices for itty-bitty gains.
I think we all have to take a deep breath and let the wingnuts demonstrate over and over again how much they hate everyone, who doesn't look exactly like what they see in the mirror. Eventually, hopefully the 2016 election, will turn a bunch of them out the door.
wordpix
(18,652 posts)He is one of the cleanest Congressmen around, and has been so for 25 yrs. So go wash your own hands.
aidbo
(2,328 posts)olegramps
(8,200 posts)If the extreme right-wing Tea Baggers get control, they could self destruct only after causing serious damage. I look for the polarization to intensify. Perhaps this is the reason behind Pope Francis emphasis on the need for unity and dedication to the common good. Did he have prior knowledge that Boehner was going to resign do to the obstructionism of the extremists who are taking control of the Republican Party? I think that there is a lot to fear when even Boehner, who is hardly a friend of liberal causes, abandons a sinking ship like rats in fear of drowning. It is evident that he well knows that there is no hope of compromise with these ideologues. We are not in for pleasant times.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)Welcome to DU!
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)"I like my monkey brains well done!"
warrprayer
(4,734 posts)Will be running the asylum known as the G.O.P..
Cheese Sandwich
(9,086 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)or a beaver-human hybrid that escaped from Dr. Moreau's island?
IthinkThereforeIAM
(3,076 posts)...eom.
V0ltairesGh0st
(306 posts)it could get worse... I'm highly prepared to feel it could get worse.
flying_wahini
(6,634 posts)Canada is looking better all the time.
punguin54
(47 posts)jalan48
(13,879 posts)It's the way all Democrats should be framing issues like this. Call Republicans what they are, conservative and extreme right wing. The media has convinced Americans that people like Bohner are moderates and the Tea Party conservative. It allows the Republicans to call Democrats like Obama and Hillary left wing when they are not in the least.
erronis
(15,324 posts)Democrats can span the same spectrum as Repuglicans. Some are moderates, some reactionary, most mercenary, most entitled, some intelligent and some really/really stupid.
Of course there are the leftists, progressive liberals, centrists, RWNJ, teapottiers. What would ET think if s/he came to talk to the "Leader"?
B.O. has done a very good job of trying to thread this needle altho the camel was too big. I don't agree with his Wall Street leanings but he has done a great job against great odds on some social and foreign/political programs.
valerief
(53,235 posts)longship
(40,416 posts)After all, there is only so far that teary eyes and orange skin color can take one. Eventually, one has to give up with such antics. (Ignoring the utter lunacy surrounding one.)
Kablooie
(18,637 posts)Geez. It almost sounds like I thought Boehner was a good speaker.
Of course I don't and I suspect that his poor leadership abilities were a large factor in allowing the insane extremists to achieve their considerable power.
madfloridian
(88,117 posts)restorefreedom
(12,655 posts)that republicans feel "betrayed" by this. i didnt catch which faction felt that way. my guess is that the saner ones feel like they have been thrown to the wolves, and the wackos feel abandonded at a moment in a "critical battle" over shutting down the government.
good. they have completely screwed themselves
bvf
(6,604 posts)but I recall Rachel's series on "John Boehner is Really Bad at His Job."
Good riddance. Let the inmate run amok for the nonce. Hopefully people will wake up.
Hopefully...
Enthusiast
(50,983 posts)patsimp
(915 posts)Old Crow
(2,212 posts)Perfectly stated--and even a bit courageous. Not the usual pablum politicians typically utter on such occasions.
Go, Bernie!
Ford_Prefect
(7,917 posts)Look out the avalanche is on the way!
Demeter
(85,373 posts)I'm wondering who paid him how much to quit---smells of pet coke (Koch)--you can tell by the sulfur.
WillyT
(72,631 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,835 posts)Ted Cruz looking to replace Boehner, but since he is running for President, he has higher goals, which would be worse.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)yuiyoshida
(41,835 posts)well, i am sure there are nasty congress critters who are as bad.
awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)of rats and cockroaches. No end to them.
demwing
(16,916 posts)No requirement that it be a member of the House
Scootaloo
(25,699 posts)I do not like warm purple sauce, Hill-I-Am, no, I do not like it at all!
Old Crow
(2,212 posts)awoke_in_2003
(34,582 posts)Wow- that will teach me not to pay attention for a few days.
99Forever
(14,524 posts)Nothing much more need be said.
in_cog_ni_to
(41,600 posts)The loonies will be running the loony bin! Boehner knows it too. It's going to be INSANE with the teabaggers being let loose. Heaven help this country!
Fearless
(18,421 posts)arcane1
(38,613 posts)I presume.
CrispyQ
(36,492 posts)Chris Hedges American Fascists: The Christian Right and the War on America should be required reading. Shame, shame on our media for not covering this story. Several years ago when Jack Cafferty still had a few minutes on the Blizter show, he did a segment on the Dominionists & he was alarmed. He stated he had never heard of them & how scary they were. Viewers wrote in parroting what he said. Do you think CNN ever did a special on it?
http://thefifthcolumnnews.com/2015/09/dominionism-takes-center-stage-in-america/
These are some scary fuckers & the media is not just giving them a voice, they are amplifying it. They don't have a clue how crazy & dangerous these zealots are.
sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)Until the money is removed from our system of government, this will only get worse. Which is why Bernie is making it a top priority of his campaign, and a majority of Americans are now beginning to see how corrupting it is on our system.
maddiemom
(5,106 posts)And Boehner just might be salvaging his soul and what's left of his sanity by walking away. I've already heard others say this, but let them just put in Louie Gohmert or another of his ilk and be done with it. Let the crazies rule: they wouldn't get very far and maybe we could finally blast away the log jam. Any way it shapes up looks to be a catastrophic mess.
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)sabrina 1
(62,325 posts)to the point of costing this country so much.
Angry Dragon
(36,693 posts)LiberalLovinLug
(14,175 posts)If he truly is despondent with the state of the infighting in the Republican party, then running away with the full knowledge that his replacement will most likely be some extremist true believer who will further grid lock Washington and screw up Obama's (and thus America's) progress...is appalling