This really concerns me regarding Mrs. Clinton:

[Betty Karlson]

In short, she has been uncomfortable about LGBT visibility for a long time - and now: it's just a few carefully triangulated words of support and the occasional cameo in her campaign videos.

I'd like some reassurance that she really has changed her mind AND her heart about LGBT equality. - And especially since she becomes angry - not responsive - when asked about her evolution on gay rights.

Main source for my concern: http://www.queerty.com/bill-clinton-cautioned-that-hillarys-discomfort-around-gay-issues-would-hurt-her-2000-senate-bid-20150924

Source for the angry unresponsiveness: http://www.queerty.com/hillary-gets-angry-when-pressed-about-her-evolution-on-marriage-equality-20140612

Clinton supporters, please check in and provide reassurance.

[msongs]

1. oh dear what can one do when one has the vapors nt

[Spitfire of ATJ]

5. Go downwind.

[Suich]

2. First link is from 2000.

2nd link is from 6/14.

[Betty Karlson]

3. Which is AFTER she supposedly changed her position (2013) n/t

[left-of-center2012]

4. It's part of her 'persona'

Many people perceive her as dishonest.
That she will say and do anything to get elected.

"You want me to be pro-LGBT?
I'm pro-LGBT"

[Gothmog]

6. In 2008 during the contested Democratic primary, HRC' was strongly supported by LGBT Democrats

Hillary Clinton is a strong supporter of LGBT rights. The 2008 primary was a very contested event but among Hillary Clinton's strongest supporters were LGBT Democrats, Hispanic voters and women voters. I do not think that this will change

[2banon]

7. LGBT community in S.F. Bay Area didn't and still don't see that way.

Even though it's Bill that signed off on it, Don't Ask/Don'T Tell is/was seen as a dagger in the gut. Inherent with the office, Bill will definetely be playing a very significant advisory role, the "decider" as dumbya's infamous quote "I'm the decider" when every knows it was Dick Cheney calling the shots on all Foreign Policy matters.

This is what we're going to have with the Clintons back in office.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

8. Bill wanted to allow gays to serve openly.

Bill wanted to allow gays to serve openly. Congressional support for allowing gays to serve openly evaporated when then Joint Chief Of Staff, Colin Powell, opposed it, and was joined in opposition by conservative Democrats like Sam Nunn who was the chairman of the Armed Forces Committee ... DADT was the compromise.

It was also better than the policy that preceded it that prohibited gays from serving at all...

[jeff47]

9. And the JCS serves at the pleasure of........?

I'm really tired of the "we can't upset the Republicans" excuse.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

10. I didn't know Sam Nunn was a Republican

President Clinton gets a lot of flack for instituting the policy of “Don’t Ask Don’t Tell,” but I remember who the true villains of the day were. It is instructive to note that it was conservatives in the Democratic party, like Sam Nunn, who were instrumental in overturning Clinton’s desire to openly integrate the military.

I remember, as a submarine veteran, how horrified I was that conservative Senator Nunn had a press briefing onboard a submarine to prove how incompatible service would be for those of us who might be gay serving “in close quarters on a ship that spends lots of time underwater.” I wish some of those press stenographers would have interviewed me, inadvertently serving as Protestant Lay Reader while proving gays could serve in any environment.

Why is this important? Easy answer. Our relatively progressive Democratic party is only as intelligent and strong as the most backwards conservative member of the Democratic caucus when it comes to social policies. The Democratic party cedes inordinate amount of power to conservative Blue Dogs who continuously undercut its ability to move our country forward, and provide the opportunity to more starkly contrast itself to the ultra conservative Republicans.

http://americablog.com/2011/09/dadt-lest-we-forget-who-the-true-villains-were.html

[jeff47]

12. I didn't know Sam Nunn was the chairman of the JCS.

Oh wait!!! He wasn't. There was this other dude you were just talking about.

Our relatively progressive Democratic party is only as intelligent and strong as the most backwards conservative member of the Democratic caucus when it comes to social policies.

No, we allow the backwards to rule everyone else. Instead of the backwards paying a price for opposing the party.

Tell me again how Eric Cantor is still in Congress, and didn't suffer at all for opposing his party on issues they cared about.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

14. Bill Clinton wanted gays to serve openly...

Bill Clinton wanted gays to serve openly... He promised to make it his first act as president. Colin Powell, Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman (R) was hugely popular opposed it. When he was joined by influential conservative Democrats in his opposition political support evaporated. This is over twenty years ago.

In essence Bill Clinton was rolled by Colin Powell and members of his own party.

DADT was the compromise that came out of that morass... To suggest Bill Clinton opposed allowing gays to serve openly in the military does not comport with the facts.

[jeff47]

15. And he allowed the backwards to override him.

To suggest Bill Clinton opposed allowing gays to serve openly in the military does not comport with the facts.

The fact is he did not feel strongly enough about it to fight for it. Because he didn't fight. Instead, he worked out a "compromise" that essentially left the status quo in place while claiming it was a major step forward.

Before DADT: "Are you gay? Well, someone reported that you had sex with a guy. Here's your discharge, get out."
After DADT: "Someone reported that you had sex with a guy. Here's your discharge, get out".

Boy, look at that massive difference.

[NCTraveler]

11. Look at the changes she made at the State Dept.

Very bold as they were a first. That is the exact opposite of "uncomfortable about LGBT visibility.

[Metric System]

13. Hillary worked to advance equality at the State Department.

http://www.thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/uncucumbered/emails_show_hillary_fought_for_lgbt_rights_in_the_state_department_before_she_supported_them_publicly

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/05/24/us/24benefit.html

[TeamPooka]

16. Thread trashed. Best feature on DU. nt

[olddots]

17. she is more of a politition than a person

n.t.