Wasserman Shultz heckled with calls for more debates. Good.

[Fawke Em]

Calls for more Democratic presidential primary debates grew so loud at a party convention in New Hampshire Saturday that the party's chairwoman had to raise her voice during her opening remarks and break from her speech to shout back at attendees.

Chants of "More debates" and "We want more debates" -- as well as some boos -- greeted Democratic National Committee Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz when she took the stage at the New Hampshire Democratic Party convention in Manchester. Although she largely stuck to her scripted remarks, which focused on how the party can retain the White House next year, she paused at one point to respond to the protesters.

SNIP with a hat tip to real small "d" democracy.

Most of the chants came from the non-delegate section -- an area set aside for people who paid to attend but are not delegates to the convention.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/19/politics/debbie-wasserman-schultz-democrats-debates/

Here's an embedded video, so if you have Twitter you can hear how LOUD this is.

https://twitter.com/danmericaCNN/status/645239621887070208

[Comrade Grumpy]

1. I hope Debbie didn't have to cover her ears. n/t

[fredamae]

2. She likely stuck her fingers in

her ears and sang "nahnahnahnahnah" all day long

[Jack Rabbit]

25. Why stick her fingers in her ears? She's deaf

[Aerows]

45. Tone deaf

at the very least. Why she thought this was a brilliant strategy and that no one would notice what she is doing really calls her competence into question. I've seen a couple of interviews with journalists asking her about limiting the debates and she gets extremely defensive.

I think she is honestly shocked that she got busted on it.

[Jack Rabbit]

46. Stone deaf and full of rocks between her ears.

The irony (and perhaps in some was the tragedy) is that it isn't going be DWS who will suffer the most for this little game she's playing, but HRC, the very person who she thinks she's helping.

Even entertaining the thought that Hillary put her up tho this, do we want to see a damaged Hillary Clinton face off against nominee of the US Fascist Party in the GE of 2016? I don't.

[Dustlawyer]

72. I have never heard her BS reasons for not having more. Whatever they are they couldnt

stand scrutiny over O'Malley's and Bernie's objections.

[restorefreedom]

3. again, why would a party who supposedly,wants to win

keep somebody around who is a screaming incompetent and is very close to starting a civil war within the Democratic Party?


It's a fair question

[hedda_foil]

7. She must bring in lots of money.

Has anyone checked her donors and DNC donors?

[restorefreedom]

8. thats a great question.

usually money talks....

[HooptieWagon]

41. Yes. She moved up the party ranks due to fund-raising ability.

[rhett o rick]

32. It isn't the Party's decision. It's the decision of the Party Elite that are in the pocket of the

Oligarchy. Their number one goal is to get H. Clinton nominated. They are willing to risk the general to insure that a progressive doesn't win the nomination. The Olibarchy (per Goldman-Sachs) doesn't care if Bush wins. Either Bush or Clinton.

DWS works for the Oligarchy and Clinton and not the grassroots of the Democratic Party.

[restorefreedom]

35. right...at such a point it becomes about power not party.

i actually saw a post in a different thread that said if Bernie was the nominee, that the party will put their money into winning congressional races and basically cede the presidency to the Republicans. I think that pretty much says it all about what they stand for.

[Volaris]

70. If 'The Party' does that, they had better hope to god that Berne dies indeed lose the general...

He wont, and then the ENTIRE edifice will come down in very short order.

[restorefreedom]

75. in their arrogance

they cant even see that identity politics is over. the dem party does not have to exist. we could create something better. they don't see that.

[politicaljunkie41910]

50. Why do we need more than 6 debates? It's not like we have 17 candidates running.

Six two-hour debates should be plenty for any competent candidate to make their position known and to challenge the other candidates position on the issues, past record, etc. None of these candidates are novices when it comes to running for office so someone tell me why six debates is not enough? Unless of course the goal is to become the Republican Party and just start beating up on one another.

[restorefreedom]

51. if six are enough for you

then you can watch six. but many voters feel they need more opportunities to hear the differences in message and policies of the different candidates. And the candidates themselves with one glaring exception would really like the opportunity to get their message out to the voters. Stifling speech is never democratic.

[Chan790]

56. ...and even that one has supported grassroots calls for more debates.

DWS is really all alone on this...even her vice-chairs Tulsi Gabbard and R.T. Rybak do not support her unilaterally imposing this position without consultation of the rest of the DNC leadership and then doubling-down against a near-universal demand that she reconsider her position.

This really needs to be stuck to until DWS is put on an island of non-support that leaves her an ultimatum between resignation as DNC chair and capitulation on tight control of the debate schedule.

[restorefreedom]

57. well said. nt

[davidpdx]

59. +2

[roguevalley]

71. yelling back. what an autocratic ass hat she is

[treestar]

79. you could read or listen to their campaign speeches

in fact one could make up their minds without direct debates at all.

[restorefreedom]

82. sure, one could

but we are dealing with a public that gets much of their information from televised events.

besides, any candidate who can defend their positions should be anxious to debate anytime,anywhere to get their message out.

a message worth delivering should be shouted from the rooftops.

fwiw, i think biden would do quite well in the debates.

[KelleyKramer]

63. There are really only 4 Dem debates that matter

The last 2 debates are after super tuesday, so there are only 4 that really matter

Most people will not watch all of them, and some that want to watch will miss because of schedule conflicts.

And of the 4 debates, some are obviously scheduled to get the lowest viewership possible.

One is on a weekend.. the Saturday 5 days before Christmas. Seriously? With last minute shopping, family coming into town, office xmas parties, etc, etc.. you really could not have scheduled that debate at a worse time.

Another is scheduled on a holiday weekend. So thats 2 maybe 3 chances for anyone to see a Dem debate before super tuesday.

This is bullshit

[Warren Stupidity]

78. Every debate is free national media time for our candidates and our party.

[Pope Sweet Jesus]

4. Nice way to piss off the New Hampshirans...

And DWS is forever linked to Clinton, and that's why Clinton will take another nosedive after the NH Dem convention.

[leftofcool]

54. Llooks like New Hampshirites were pleased as punch with Hillary

[senz]

5. I hope she gets this response everywhere she goes.

It's possible DWS has been living in a bubble. Time to wake up and see the people.

[rhett o rick]

33. But Clinton will most likely reward her with a position in her admin, should she win. But with

these tactics, they won't win.

[senz]

36. They pat each other on the back & ignore the people.

They're cozy and self-serving. They sure as hell do not deserve the term "Democrat." Demos is Greek for people. Crat refers to rule. Funny how people forget these things.

[MoveIt]

68. Chief of staff or does she have someone worse lined

Up for chief of staff? Appointing Emmanuel was Obamas signal to sit down and STFU.

[rhett o rick]

96. "Appointing Emmanuel was Obamas signal to sit down and STFU. " True but I thought that

having Rick Warren give a prayer at the inauguration was the first signal. A blatant slap in the face for the Left.

[KoKo]

109. The first "Shot Across the Bow"........and we've seen what came after....

Brings to mind: "Mad as Hell...And, Not Going to Take it Anymore!" 's

And, I'm in a State that Voted for Obama in 2008 in the South...and we are now dealing with a Repub Governor, House and Senate for the first time in 200 Years.

Tim Kaine and Debbie Wasserman Schultz and the Rest of the DLC and Triangulation should take Credit for This! The dismantling of a Dem Coalition in a Southern Border State that let the "Hounds of Hell" in to Take Over because of their Mismanagement and Ideological Loyalty to Dem Triangulation.

After Obama was Elected the Dem Party didn't care about all of us who worked so hard to give them a Majority in the House and Senate in 2006. It was downhill for us after that. No support for Party Organization, Grass Roots and the Coalitions we had built. The money dried up and the Dean/Kucinich Activists were cut off and we ended up with NOTHING to help us sustain the Movement we had Built.

[99th_Monkey]

6. Kick

DWS out of DNC chair now.

[retrowire]

9. lmao and she shouted them back.

Debbie, the people are very displeased with you and they are not to be shouted at...

they granted you your job in the first place.

[Catherina]

55. She's shameless n/t

[leftofcool]

10. Yep, heckling will help change her mind.

[Fawke Em]

12. These are the REAL people of the Democratic Party.

If it doesn't change her mind, then she should be replaced and a leader who cares about ALL of the Democrats should be put in her place.

[leftofcool]

13. Yea, gotcha! Whatever you say.

[Fawke Em]

18. Well, at least you're consistent.

You're also supporting the "elite" candidate who cares more about her big donors than the rest of us.

[Comrade Grumpy]

14. That seemed more like the whole crowd letting her know what they thought.

One would hope Democratic leaders would be responsive to the base.

I know. I got carried away. Sorry.

[ljm2002]

16. In other words...

...sit down and STFU.

Pffft.

[leftofcool]

53. You can heckle all you want to

No one cares.

[Admiral Loinpresser]

66. False.

I care. And millions of voters who want to overthrow the oligarchy that has seized control of our erstwhile democracy.

[DisgustipatedinCA]

23. Who cares about her mind. I want her fired.

She's not worth a fuck.

[still_one]

76. What is wrong with you. You can only describe the worth of a person in terms of a sexual act?

[DisgustipatedinCA]

84. Nothing is wrong with me, and I'm not talking in sexual terms, Dr Freud.

Let's turn the tables. What's wrong with you that you would make such a baseless claim? Get a refund on that 4th grade psychology course. It gained you nothing.

[still_one]

86. You made it ambiguous since your vocabulary is limited. It is that tough to use words like "she isn't

worth anything", or something similar. I guess so for some folks

[DisgustipatedinCA]

87. Golly, I guess that English major didn't pay off.

I don't take correction from the likes of you, and the personal attacks you're launching because I chose to criticize a public figure are beginning to wear thin. You'll need to cease that behavior.

[still_one]

88. If you believe I am personally attacking you, then alert on me. Otherwise, have a good day

[DisgustipatedinCA]

89. This isn't an opinion I've been kicking around. There's documentary language above.

That inconvenient English major strikes again. I don't entertain Fox-think notions of what settled English language does or doesn't mean. I suggest you try greener pastures, because you'll get no satisfaction here. I won't play dumb to comport with your wishes.

[still_one]

90. and I am not going anywhere, so you go find your own pastures

[DisgustipatedinCA]

91. I wish you a good day, and while you go about that day, consider:

Was that limited-vocabulary guy saying I should leave DU, or did the figurative "greener pastures" maybe refer to something else?

[still_one]

93. Thanks. Either way, take care. We did have a dialog of some sort, and that is a good thing

If nothing else I understand the context and connotation of what you meant, and I initially assumed the wrong thing

[DisgustipatedinCA]

94. Thanks. And I seriously, I hope you have a good day.

[rhett o rick]

34. She answers to Clinton so heckling won't hurt. The Democratic Party Elites don't answer to the

Party grassroots. That's why we are going to kick the whole corrupt group out.

[frylock]

37. LEAVE DEBBIE ALONE!!!

YOU'RE LUCKY SHE EVEN..... UMMMMMM............ YOU'RE LUCKY SHE EVEN DOES WHATEVER IT IS SHE GETS PAID TO DO FOR YOU BASTARDS!!!

[Warren DeMontague]

107. ***

[jomin41]

11. I e-mailed both my senators about this...

I got non-reply replies from both of them (both Dems). The replies did not even mention "debates"- totally non-responsive. W_T_F?

[Babel_17]

17. They only reply with canned responses - they don't have one yet (nt)

[DirtyHippyBastard]

19. The last time i emailed my senator about the Keystone pipeline

Bob Casey, Jr. (D-Pa), I received an application for the NRA in the mail about a week later. Never had received anything from them before. Ever. I must have got put on a miscreant list? I thought it was a very telling response.
Another example of a DINO that needs challenged in primaries repeatedly.

[SCVDem]

15. A Democratic Socialist is sounding better all the time!

We do not need the tolerate her dismissive attitude!

She demeans detractors as being in the cheap seats.

Buh Bye!

[Babel_17]

20. O'Malley should challenge DWS to a debate over the schedule

Sanders clearly won't do that and, with all due respect to his fine articulation of our party's principles, the O'Malley campaign has little to lose and much to gain by the attention this will cause. Go on CNN and challenge DWS to debate the merits of her arguments.

DWS ignore the fact that lesser known candidates get to raise much needed cash via having been seen in debates. DWS talks of "retail politics" as if there's no attendant costs.

The current schedule hurts those without cash, and that's not so very democratic.

[backscatter712]

22. Bernie, O'Malley, and the other non-Hillary candidates should boycott the DNC debates...

...and set up their own debates.

They have to all agree to do this for it to work, that way, if DWS carries out her threat to lock them out of the DNC debates, when the six debates air, it will just be Hillary on the stage by herself. The optics would be priceless!

And it would create enough of a shitstorm it would guarantee that the alternative debates get airtime.

[SmittynMo]

21. What the hell is wrong with her?

The people want it. The candidates want it. The candidates don't mind. So why is she pulling this crap out of her azz?

Sure looks like she's wearing a tight leash. The question is, who's on the other end of the leash?

[tularetom]

30. I'm not so sure ALL the candidates want it

And I believe the candidate who doesn't want it is the one who is on the other end of DWS's leash.

But then I'm pretty sure you know that too.

[Fla Dem]

24. There's a lot of skulduggery going on.

"Most of the chants came from the non-delegate section -- an area set aside for people who paid to attend but are not delegates to the convention."

There will be a debate a month starting on 10/13 and going to March for a total of 6 debates. By that time, I doubt many people will even be watching they'll be so sick of them.


Tuesday, October 13, 2015
CNN Democratic Primary Debate
Location: Wynn Las Vegas
Sponsors: CNN, Nevada Democratic Party
Moderator: Anderson Cooper

Saturday, November 14, 2015
CBS News Democratic Debate
Aired On: CBS
Location: Des Moines, Iowa
Sponsors: CBS News, KCCI, the Des Moines Register
Moderator: John Dickerson

Saturday, December 19, 2015
ABC News Democratic Primary Debate
Location: Manchester, New Hampshire
Sponsors: ABC News, WMUR

2016

Sunday, January 17, 2016
NBC News Democratic Primary Debate
Location: Charleston, South Carolina
Sponsors: NBC, Congressional Black Caucus Institute

February or March, 2016
Univision Democratic Primary Debate
Location: Miami, Florida
Sponsors: Univision, The Washington Post

February or March, 2016
PBS Democratic Primary Debate
Location: Wisconsin
Sponsors: PBS


Read more at http://www.uspresidentialelectionnews.com/2016-debate-schedule/2016-democratic-primary-debate-schedule/#ML9wl1YzSrsDk2XJ.99

[restorefreedom]

38. its hard to imagine how

dws can even show her face in public with this shameless rigging.

lets see, three out of four scheduled are on weekends, so we have football, nascar, normal human social activities.

the dec 19 is an especially nice "screw you" to the non hillary candidates...the sat night before christmas when virtually no one will be watching.

what a sorry excuse for a leader,....and a human being.

[dflprincess]

58. Why would she say "February or March"?

Super Tuesday is March 1 - things are usually pretty much wrapped up by then. It sounds to me like she's hoping to limit it to 4 debates by pushing the last 2 into March.

[davidpdx]

61. My guess is Florida and Wisconsin's primaries will be late Feb or early March

It's apparent that DWS and Clinton believe the primary will be over in 6 weeks and that is why no more debates would be needed.

I mean why would the DNC want to promote their candidates in states other than NH, Iowa, Nevada, Florida, North Carolina, and Wisconsin if the contest wasn't over by mid-March? (yes, I know the answer)

[MisterP]

26. "my idea of a perfect school is one in which there are no children at all"

they've made it pretty clear that they want a party with no voters, just donors

[marym625]

44. +100

[Spitfire of ATJ]

27. So much for "DU doesn't reflect the real world".

[True Blue American]

28. Sherrod Brown is one Senator that responds.

You get an email. Then when he can he answers you.
I emailed him about the postoffice Darryl Issa screwed up. He has a bill that will help,not hurt the workers and solve their problems.

Can not get it on the floor of the Senate. Folks, we have to elect real Democrats, not traitors to the lobbyists.

[questionseverything]

40. i love sherrod brown

he is someone i would love to see as bernie's vp

bernie needs peops on the phone for new york,voters not registered as dems have to change their registrayion to democrat by oct 9th to vote in that primary

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251605087

[dorkzilla]

29. WOW! That was LOUD!!! nt

[cantbeserious]

31. Bernie And Bernie Supporters Thank You Debbie For The Extra Votes

eom

[Uncle Joe]

39. Kicked and recommended for the supporters of democracy.

Thanks for the thread, Fawke Em.

[CTyankee]

42. this is just effin' embarrassing...

Her OWN party members want more debates! Whassamattayou, Debbie?

High time this stopped.

[marym625]

43. hmmm

Wonder why the colors in the Hillary logo have changed.

[Walk away]

47. Why don't the non-Hillary candidates get together and have as many debates as they want without her?

Oh right.....crickets!

[TheFarS1de]

48. Simple .

The DNC will not allow it . No point having a debate when not all candidates are there . So stick your crickets and ask the DNC why they won't allow more .

[leftofcool]

52. There is nothing stopping the boyz in having a debate. A no gurlz thing.

Hillary will follow the rules that were set down. They guys can do as the please since they are the one whining.

[davidpdx]

60. Follow the rules like she did in 2008 with Florida and Michigan?

Hillary Clinton follows her own rules.

[Walk away]

74. That may come in handy when dealing with the republican power structure...

that will be in place when she is elected POTUS! Let's face it, this is going to be a job for someone who has the backbone to lead.
If you can't deal with the party you are running with (even if you don't actually belong to it), how are you going to deal with the GOP?

[Warren DeMontague]

101. yes it's all about gender.

More than 6 debates is MISSSOGINEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!

[Walk away]

73. Bernie isn't even a Democrat! How is it possible that they call his shots?

If he can't handle the DNC he is going to have a hell of a time with a republican House, Senate and Supreme Court.

I guess when he magically becomes president he will magically grow a spine as well!

[TheFarS1de]

103. Comprehension fail .

If all the candidates are not present , not much point is there .

[treestar]

80. omg. It's a free country

The DNC cannot disallow anyone from gathering at any place or saying anything.

[TheFarS1de]

105. No , they can't ....

But once again , if every Candidate is not at the debate , what is the point ? Quite a simple premise one would think .

[GoneOffShore]

49. Time to rid ourselves of the Third Way. And D. W-S in particular.

When Democrats run as Democrats, we win.

[Old Crow]

62. By the way, do you know what her base salary is?

A cool $174,000 per year, plus one of the best retirement pensions and health plans in the world (sorry: Not available to regular U.S. citizens).

[Unknown Beatle]

64. All DWS is doing is that

she's making people dislike her more and more. At first I thought she was okay, but now I can't even stand to look at her. What really pisses me off is that she supposedly works for the citizens of the US, we pay her salary, after all, but she acts as though she has free reign to do anything she desires without any output from us.

She's an utter failure as DNC chair.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

65. She needs to go now

[slipslidingaway]

67. We should be emabarrassed for our party and what they have not done to advance the interests ...

of the majority of people and what they have done to allow the Repubs to control of the media for the past few months. The Dem party ceded control when the tea party had the media attention and they are doing it again.

So tired of blaming the other side while our party hides under a rock!

[BeanMusical]

69. Kick and R

[Bobbie Jo]

77. Wait

So now heckling is good?



Make up your minds, already.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=27165

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=504091

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=503212

LOUD!!

[treestar]

81. +1

[Spazito]

85. Excellent point!

It smacks of 'it's alright for me but not for thee' hypocrisy, imo.

[Warren DeMontague]

95. did anyone physically bully her off the stage?

I doubt it.

[Bobbie Jo]

97. Finally...

I was almost disappointed. Somehow I knew that would be different.

Heckling is GOOD! The louder the better!

At any rate, those were a few of the UGLIEST threads I have ever seen here, or anywhere for that matter.

[Warren DeMontague]

99. No, heckling isn't good.

Physically preventing someone from giving a speech, is worse.

Honestly Debbie Wasserman-Schultz lost my respect when she palled up with Sheldon Adelson to ensure Florida could keep tossing cancer patients in prison for smoking pot. So am I going to get all weepy that someone called her on her tired ass bullshit? Probably not too much.

But no, she shouldn't be heckled. She should stop trying to cover for Hillary with the limited debate shit, though.

[Bobbie Jo]

102. Uhuh

Carry on...

This thread is turning into yet another classic, right down to the creative expression of b****.

Oh you knew someone would do it.

[Warren DeMontague]

106. errrrr..... what are you talking about?

are you responding to me?

If you have something to take up with someone else in the thread, maybe you should bring it up with them?

[leftofcool]

98. Of course, as long as Bernie people are doing the heckling

Some days I am just so confused. Today Pelosi is a goddess because she called for more debates, yesterday she was third way.

[Warren DeMontague]

100. Waaaah! More debates! Waaaaaah! Noooo!

What a horrific idea!

[Bobbie Jo]

104. As long as you understand the ground rules

It's pretty easy to keep up.

[leftofcool]

108. LMAO!

[bonniebgood]

83. Someone with power in the Democratic Party has to speak up and loud

ASAP there are NO 6 debates only 4. There will be no debates in MARCH PERIOD. dws IS A LYING STALLING NEOCON bI8ACH. NOWkickmeoff i don't care

[nadinbrzezinski]

92. They showed the video this morning

and Dean revealed he was the one behind the 6 debates, but also that the exclusivity rule needs to go. Perhaps they are starting to realize this is well FUCKED UP.