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portlander23

(2,078 posts)
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:19 AM Sep 2015

While everyone else was talking about her authenticity, Hillary Clinton changed her position

While everyone else was talking about her authenticity, Hillary Clinton changed her position

The revelation that Hillary Clinton is planning to be more spontaneous and authentic brought a booming collective laugh from Republicans, some Democrats, and opinion writers last week. The group guffaw drowned out a related shift in her positioning that is far more important: Now she wants to be known as a moderate.

"You know, I get accused of being kind of moderate and center," Clinton said in Ohio September 10, according to CNN. "I plead guilty."

That's a tire-squealing turn from the first five months of her campaign, when Clinton emphasized her progressive credentials. She built a policy platform significantly to the left of where many Democrats expected her to stand — in favor of new regulations of the financial services industry, "ending the era of mass incarceration," and reforming campaign finance laws, to name a few items on her agenda. The focus on populism was described as a newfound affinity for the left, a return to liberal roots, an effort to crowd out the competition, a general election strategy based on energizing Democrats, or some combination thereof. The truth is that Clinton's record is pretty liberal, except when it comes to national defense and trade.

Now she's pivoting back toward the centrist label that defined her husband's campaigns and presidency. The obvious reason for Clinton to switch tacks now is that her initial strategy didn't work: On the strength of backing from liberals, Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders has surged to leads in New Hampshire and Iowa. That's a good reason for her to shake things up a bit, but it's only part of a story that is more about drawing a contrast with Sanders, sending a signal to her supporters that she's ready to really fight for the nomination, and making sure that she's comfortable in the political skin she's wearing for the rest of the campaign.




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While everyone else was talking about her authenticity, Hillary Clinton changed her position (Original Post) portlander23 Sep 2015 OP
Give me a minute there- hedgehog Sep 2015 #1
As quickly as the 'evolutions' are happening now... Lancero Sep 2015 #2
we better pace ourselves....nt restorefreedom Sep 2015 #8
good. now that she's decided that really, deep down, she's a centrist, she has a reason to debate magical thyme Sep 2015 #3
Not possible. One nice DUer, now unfairly forced on vacation, has posted a chart LondonReign2 Sep 2015 #4
Goldwater Girl, Republican, Centrist, Moderate, Progressive and YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #5
You better not use that argument with the Elizabeth Warren supporters. She was a Republican well Metric System Sep 2015 #7
Focus, this is a thread about floppy floppy Hillary not Senator Warren YabaDabaNoDinoNo Sep 2015 #10
Hey, she's consistently been a not-Libertarian. Jim Lane Sep 2015 #11
If my memory serves me correctly, Blus4u Sep 2015 #6
Hillary: Something for Everyone! corkhead Sep 2015 #9
What is a 'moderate'? AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #12
A moderate is on the fence between Dem/Repub ideas,so essentially they're the rightest wing of Dem's EndElectoral Sep 2015 #13
Hillary Clinton is grasping at anything she can to keep her lead. Avalux Sep 2015 #14
The "Center" is where I am. Or where You are, Or where that person is. Armstead Sep 2015 #15
Our own hootinholler's graphic is more relevant than ever hifiguy Sep 2015 #16
Are we seeing bitter Hilary already? I can't wait for the first debate- snooper2 Sep 2015 #17

Lancero

(3,003 posts)
2. As quickly as the 'evolutions' are happening now...
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:50 AM
Sep 2015

Won't be long before someone makes a drinking game out of it.

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
3. good. now that she's decided that really, deep down, she's a centrist, she has a reason to debate
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 11:51 AM
Sep 2015

the left.

So now can we have more debates, and earlier please?

I want to compare "moderate" Hillary v.8.0 with "extremist" Bernie on the issues.

LondonReign2

(5,213 posts)
4. Not possible. One nice DUer, now unfairly forced on vacation, has posted a chart
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:18 PM
Sep 2015

again and again that PROVES Hillary is a lefty Liberal.

 

YabaDabaNoDinoNo

(460 posts)
5. Goldwater Girl, Republican, Centrist, Moderate, Progressive and
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:32 PM
Sep 2015

Democrat

She needs to make up her mind about who she is and what she really supports.

I have been the same for over 50 years now and what I believe and support has never changed


Luckily for me I can make a decision and stick with it.



Metric System

(6,048 posts)
7. You better not use that argument with the Elizabeth Warren supporters. She was a Republican well
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:52 PM
Sep 2015

into the Reagan years, after all.

Blus4u

(608 posts)
6. If my memory serves me correctly,
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 12:42 PM
Sep 2015

Bernie officially declared before Hillary. She stayed "unofficial" while Bernie began to gain momentum and larger and larger crowds. Eventually she was compelled to jump in.

And everyone was surprised at how "left leaning" her message was. IMO that was driven by the obvious popularity of Bernie's messaging.

It didn't work for her and nothing else has seemed to either is because the passionate voting base is simply sick and tired of the way things are and where they are headed. And this is true for both the Democratic and Republican wings of our political system.

In this regard, Trump and Carson (outsider/outlier) no matter how buffoonish the message are leading; and Sanders radical messaging is resonating soundly are symptomatic of how disgusted the voters are.

Just my opinion.
Peace

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
12. What is a 'moderate'?
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 01:32 PM
Sep 2015

Seriously, what does a 'moderate' believe? Calling herself a 'moderate' is refusing to take a position on where she stands. IT's like punting.

She is 'Center'? What does a 'center' believe? Half right wing and half Democrat? Which right wing policies does she believe in? I can't think of one that has ever done anything good for this country.

So uninspiring.

Avalux

(35,015 posts)
14. Hillary Clinton is grasping at anything she can to keep her lead.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:55 PM
Sep 2015

If that means claiming she's a progressive and/or a liberal one day, then a moderate centrist the next, so be it.

This is just another example of not being able to trust her - which is she??

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
15. The "Center" is where I am. Or where You are, Or where that person is.
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 02:58 PM
Sep 2015

We tend to define the "true center" as our own set of beliefs. So it;s a meaningless phrase when used collectively.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
17. Are we seeing bitter Hilary already? I can't wait for the first debate-
Wed Sep 16, 2015, 03:04 PM
Sep 2015

She is to a point she better really kick ass or people are just going to start laughing at her....

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