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tomm2thumbs

(13,297 posts)
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:10 AM Sep 2015

NYTimes: Hillary Clinton’s Long Road to ‘Sorry’ Over Email Use

In her 2000 race for the Senate, it took Mrs. Clinton three days to apologize after an aide neglected to tip a waitress in upstate New York, and the faux pas blew up into a tabloid embarrassment. Only in 2014, after a painful loss in her first run for the White House when the issue cost her support, did she call her 2002 Senate vote to authorize the use of force in Iraq a mistake.

As early as 1994, at what became known as her “pink press conference,” in which Mrs. Clinton won praise for spending 68 minutes fielding questions about the Whitewater scandal while wearing a rosy sweater-set, she breezily dismissed a question about why she and her husband had not done something differently: “Well, shoulda, coulda, woulda,” she said. “We didn’t.”

Even on Tuesday, after Mrs. Clinton’s apology on ABC News, at a taping of “The Ellen DeGeneres Show” later that day she again retreated to the idea that she was “sorry for all the confusion” her use of private email had caused.

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Indeed, even as donors toured Mrs. Clinton’s headquarters in Brooklyn on Sept. 3 and were offered reassurances that the campaign was in a strong position, reports that an aide who had overseen her email server was invoking his Fifth Amendment right not to testify dominated cable news.


(Full article at link...)

By MAGGIE HABERMAN and AMY CHOZICK
SEPT. 11, 2015

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/12/us/politics/hillary-clinton-email-secretary-of-state.html

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oasis

(49,389 posts)
1. The nerve of the NY Times. They ran phony info repeatedly
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:38 AM
Sep 2015

To pump up what was a 2nd rate backpage story. They had to make corrections after they were called out.

Now they're still trying to milk the same ol' e-mail cow.

 

Hollingsworth

(88 posts)
2. Fact is Hillary 'wasn't thinking' about having a personal server
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:41 AM
Sep 2015

and out of the way of FOIA requests. I don't want a President that doesn't think, do you?

Like it or not, this is a story. It's real. It's about judgement and trust.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
3. Welcome to DU, Hollingsworth!
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:45 AM
Sep 2015

It is a story, not because of the server but because of the actions and handling of it. It's not entirely fair, but it is fair to question her handling of the situation.

Cheers!

 

Hollingsworth

(88 posts)
6. As a lowly in my working life, as most of us are
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 12:54 AM
Sep 2015

if i had my own server personal to me of the company's business, what do you think would happen to my employ if that was discovered?

oasis

(49,389 posts)
7. Probably nothing since, obviously, in your "lowly" position
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:00 AM
Sep 2015

You weren't in charge of anything.

Hill as Secretary of State had a lot on her plate. She had the server for convieniance.

 

Hollingsworth

(88 posts)
8. It was not so convenient for her afterall, don't you agree?
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:09 AM
Sep 2015

As a 'lowly' I even could have figure that one out.

oasis

(49,389 posts)
11. Not convenient now. Hillary's said as much several times.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:14 AM
Sep 2015

That doesn't erase the fact that the whole thing was a witch hunt from the beginning. Like all the other right wing fishing expeditions of the past 20+years, they came up empty.

 

Hollingsworth

(88 posts)
12. This all would not be if not for Hillary's bad decision. That is the crux of the matter.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:19 AM
Sep 2015

It's not a made up fairy tale, oasis. She Did This.
Next question has to be, WHY?
I don't believe she 'wasn't thinking', do you?

oasis

(49,389 posts)
13. "Why" did Hillary do it? Again, it was convenient.
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:42 AM
Sep 2015

Write it down this time.

It's getting late, gotta turn in now.

Nice talk and welcome to DU.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
14. And who could've possibly foreseen that the right-wing would look for anything to hunt with?
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 02:08 AM
Sep 2015

Clinton has a history of exercising poor judgment, which is certainly the case in this instance.

slipslidingaway

(21,210 posts)
9. I'm sorry, so sorry ....
Sat Sep 12, 2015, 01:12 AM
Sep 2015

there were a few videos back in 2007 about candidates being sorry for their actions and votes. One in particular showed John Edwards apologizing for a variety of votes and another showing Kucinich saying 'we need a President who is right the first time!'

Sometimes "sorry" is too easily said and accepted. This article speaks to emails, but voting for an invasion of another country and believing the lies which led to an invasion of Iraq and displacing millions of people is harder to swallow ... sometimes sorry just does not cut it.





thesquanderer

(11,989 posts)
16. Whether she "should" or "should not" have had to apologize...
Sun Sep 13, 2015, 09:54 AM
Sep 2015

it's good that she did, and she should have done it sooner. Her answers were getting more convoluted and technical sounding. Ultimately, they sounded to me like the "no controlling authority" line that damaged Gore. Anything that sounds like "It may look bad, but technically, there was no legal prohibition on what I did" makes a really lousy defense in terms of PR. You'd think that HRC would have known that.

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