why so much anger, hyperbole and antisocial behavior towards Democrats

[reddread]

from alleged Hillary supporters?
their repetitive tactics seem misguided.
is there something else at work?
I cant for a second think they are so short on sense that they would become their own worst enemy
by mistake. Surely they wish to engender support for her?
Do they simply hate liberals that much?
makes no sense to me, and its sad to see others attacked and misrepresented over and over.
like something less than high school in terms of maturity and forethought.
Not that Id advise them to do anything different except brace for defeat and maybe a historic
failure.
I lean underdog, but Im not switching.

[AgingAmerican]

1. They don't want to talk about issues

Especially matters of

Economics
War
Domestic Surveillance

So they attack, smear, make things up, throw stink bombs, etc

Eventually she has to start talking about issues. the Democratic party has lost control of the direction the electorate is going, and this is how they choose to react to it.

[wyldwolf]

2. for every angry, hyperbole and antisocial behavior towards Democrats from Hillary supporters....

... I'll give you five from Bernie supporters.

Go.

[Ed Suspicious]

3. Given that there are ten times the Bernie supporters on this site, I guess that shows we're

about half as bad as HRC supporters.

[wyldwolf]

4. ok, I'll up the ante to 10

Go.

[Ed Suspicious]

5. More goal post moving? Come on, now.

[wyldwolf]

6. in your favor. For every ONE from a Hillary supporter, I'll post TEN from a Bernie supporter.

[reddread]

7. you first.

mind you, I think calling out posters is against the rules here.
However, I have seen only policy differences driving the criticism of
candidate Clinton. Not attacks upon her supporters.
On the other hand, I see no policy discussion beyond the fearful prodding
of financial/wealth interests by seeming surrogates who primarily lay their complaints
at the feet of voters interested in Bernie's approach, rather than Bernie himself.
This is a very interesting tactic, and will deserve much examination after the fact.
Its sad to see what poor calculations can be made in service to ultimate failure, but presumably in
pursuit of victory.
we are on the brink of some serious history in the near future.
and I feel sorry for Hillary Clinton.
she deserves better.

[wyldwolf]

8. Actually, in my first reply, I said 'GO.' Should be easy for you since you started the OP.

I'm sure you have tons of examples.

But you'll try to weasil out by quibbling over the definitions of your charges from the OP and who 'goes first.' LOL.

[reddread]

12. you can scroll up and down GDP yourself for examples

and go fish somewhere else.
this is not about DU or individual posters/posts.
it is about a particular strategy/tactic that could only
come from a very interesting perspective.
I hope it is eventually fully understood.

[wyldwolf]

20. Expected reply.

[Capn Sunshine]

41. Rather than GDP, I'd prefer the candidate's actual stands

DU is not a place you will find those

[LeftOfWest]

55. wtf?

okay n/t.

[Puzzledtraveller]

9. It's the internet.

Anonymity without accountability.

[reddread]

17. I am FOUR SQUARE in accord with that illusion

but that faux opportunity should come with the proviso/warning
that ANYONE can pretend to be ANYONE at ANYTIME, and what goes down
online aint necessarily above board or safe.
Id like to see the envelope, myself.
wouldnt you?

[Puzzledtraveller]

45. I agree.

I even posted something to that effect in the lounge.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1018794847

[Warren DeMontague]

10. I think some people are still mad that she was "robbed" in 2008.

It was hers, she was inevitable, she was entitled to it, she was supposed to get it, and this annoying upstart with a funny name came and swooped it away from her.

Now for fucking SURE it is HER TURN and dammit if anybody tries to screw with the inevitability train this time, man, they're in for it.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

11. Like this:

why so much anger, hyperbole and antisocial behavior towards Democrats from alleged Hillary supporters?

That was mailed to a poster's home.


/thread

[reddread]

13. that looks like Bernie's typing to me

[DemocratSinceBirth]

16. Why am I not surprised you think it's funny?

eom

[Raine1967]

26. Making light of a serious situation is just not cool.

To everyone, I say support your candidate, but in the end we are all members of DU. That deserves some respect and support as well.

[riversedge]

53. Grow up.

[tritsofme]

14. Wow....I have no words.

Very scary...major mental issues at play here.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

18. Here are the envelopes it was in since some people think it's funny

[BlueJazz]

38. Tampa and St Pete? That's the area I live in. (Sarasota)...and it's from Alaska ?

[reddread]

39. sent to AK

looks like theres something untoward happening in FL.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

40. The recipient is in Alaska...

I don't know why the sender put an AK return address...


Didn't he or she know the postmark would be from the city from which it is sent?

[BlueJazz]

43. 2 mistakes the sender made>

1. His/her own handwriting.
2. He/her probably licked the stamp (s) DNA

[reddread]

19. like dirty tricks wouldnt happen here in this particular primary

no precedents for that.

[tritsofme]

44. Whoever wrote that note is demented and sick.

This isn't dirty tricks or politics as usual. At it's best this is incredibly creepy stalking, at worst there could be some criminal element.

[in_cog_ni_to]

21. And zero proof it's from a Bernie supporter.

If it is, they should be banned, but it looks Rovian to me. And of course, it's been posted all over DU as if there's proof it's a DU Bernie supporter and there is zero proof of that.
I have other ideas of who it could be, but I'll keep those to myself.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

23. Banned -the poster should be in jail. It was sent to the person's home address

eom

[in_cog_ni_to]

28. I agree!

There's still zero proof it's a DU Bernie supporter. My money's on ROVE operatives or Hillary's players.

[reddread]

30. dont they share a building, floor or office?

[leftofcool]

32. I suspect the Postal Inspector will figure it out.

[in_cog_ni_to]

35. Indeed.

The truth will eventually come to light.

[reddread]

24. nobody would object to the harshest measures available

but what are the odds this isnt low rent mischief from local troublemakers?
clearly no shortage, but they seem to be a shrinking minority.
or I just hope they are

[DemocratSinceBirth]

31. It seems like more than "low rent mischief"

The person who sent the letter had to delve into a person's facebook page, find his or her address, create a phony return address, and then mail the letter twice because they thought they got it wrong the first time.

[reddread]

36. curiouser and curiouser

who is the culprit?

[in_cog_ni_to]

33. Yeah, I know.

I have a good idea if who's behind it. They'll be caught eventually and then the truth will prevail.

[leftofcool]

42. I think that truth may already be known

Those postal guys/gals work quick.

[Raine1967]

29. It soesn;t — or should not matter. This is a member of DU that was targeted.

at a certain point, I say when one of our own is targeted like this, maybe being a member of DU is more important than partisanship for our personal candidates?

[AtomicKitten]

46. Kafkatrapping.

[PotatoChip]

57. I had to look that up. Fascinating stuff!

I wish I had the time to read more about it right now.

But anyway, that possibility makes every bit as much sense as any of other theories floating around.

[AtomicKitten]

62. I never even heard the word before.

A friend tossed it out there.

[in_cog_ni_to]

58. ...

That was a new one to me too, but so accurately describes this "letter" issue and all the other racist bullshit being flung around DU the last few months.

VERY enlightening!

Accusation = Guilt - just because you were accused. Makes so much sense now!

Thanks for the new word, AK! It's one for the memory bank.

[AtomicKitten]

61. A friend mentioned that in a conversation.

Interesting read on that. Seems oddly familiar.

[99Forever]

22. And precisely which "Sanders supporter" did this come from?

I suggest you investigate that before making blanket accusations.

False flag operations wouldn't be out of character to some people.

I await your proof of who wrote this "letter" and your evidence of how and when they did it.

Thanks.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

25. I didn't accuse anybody...I merely posted the letter...

[Raine1967]

37. I am gonna say it to you, DSB, since I think you will read what I have to say:

Joking about that letter, and deflecting by some — first saying it could not have been a sanders supporter — instead of rallying around a member of DU and putting aside partisanship is really distressing.

I am more concerned about a member of DU being harassed like this than any candidate I support. I am a member of DU, Bravenak is a member as well. When are we going to start caring more about our fellow members than we do trying to out primary-debate each other?

[99Forever]

47. The accusation is implied.

Your repeated posting of it proves that.

Which leads me to doubt it's authenticity completely.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

48. Of course you do...

The accusation is implied. Your repeated posting of it proves that.

Which leads me to doubt it's authenticity completely.

Of course you do.


Oh, you can tell Mr. Citizen he can have my whereabouts too... You can have it as well... I like to meet new people.

[reddread]

51. post it then

but this post here ^ is grade F bullshit. take that tough guy shit somewhere else.
have some shame and some decency. this kind of crap just stinks the place up.
you shouldnt need to be told how to behave among other posters,
no matter how many you want to beat up.
all the while complaining about this stalkers letter campaign...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

52. Where did I say I want to beat someone up?

post it then

but this post here ^ is grade F bullshit. take that tough guy shit somewhere else.
have some shame and some decency. this kind of crap just stinks the place up.
you shouldnt need to be told how to behave among other posters,
no matter how many you want to beat up.
all the while complaining about this stalkers letter campaign

I would expect an apology for this calumny against me but I won't hold my breath.

Yeah, if a poster wants to threaten people anonymously I take issue with it. I am not the one fishing for poster's personal information.


PM me, ask me for my whereabouts, and I swear to God I will give it to you. I am not going to post it here and get a hide. Once you have it you can do with it whatever you want.

P.S. The suggestion that the letter in question is fake is odious.

[99Forever]

56. I don't know any "Mr.Citizen."

So just exactly how would you propose I tell "Mr.Citizen" anything? Why would you accuse me of knowing this person? People I associate with don't make threats, real or not, on the internet or in real life.

[reddread]

27. false flags are the only kind worth planting

period.

[DanTex]

15. You're confused. Hillary supporters attack the GOP. Bernie supporters attack Dems.

[reddread]

34. on another board?

[m-lekktor]

49. oh please, Hillary supporters on DU do nothing BUT attack Bernie supporters 24/7 non stop nt

[reddread]

50. attacking Democratic voters.

and taking open discussion of objectionable aspects as
some sort of "right wing" attack.
when the right wing's major concern comes from a different direction,
albeit with a seemingly common hatred for "liberals"/"liberal extremists"

[Skittles]

54. I see it from both Hillary and Bernie supporters

you all are making real spectacles of yourselves

[Skidmore]

59. Yup. nt

[FSogol]

60. +1 It should be hilarious, but it is just sad.