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Lorien

(31,935 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 02:36 PM Sep 2015

Debbie Wasserman Schulz won't budge on limited debates, punishing anyone who

breaks her "rules".

Democratic National Committee chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s own party leaders have accused her of being “undemocratic” and rigging the presidential primary debate schedule to help Hillary Rodham Clinton, but she is standing firm on her decision to strictly limit the number of presidential debates AND ADDED that she wants to punish any candidate who debates outside the six debates.

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Debbie Wasserman Schulz won't budge on limited debates, punishing anyone who (Original Post) Lorien Sep 2015 OP
Shameful behavior! silverweb Sep 2015 #1
Protecting the oligarchs from the people. HooptieWagon Sep 2015 #2
I'd do the first four that are scheduled before primaries Fawke Em Sep 2015 #3
I like the way you think! Kenjie Sep 2015 #5
me likey. restorefreedom Sep 2015 #24
So the punishment is Kenjie Sep 2015 #4
What happened to the League of Women Voters? They used to sponsor debates. -nt Freelancer Sep 2015 #6
Both parties agreed that they wanted to control the debates, i.e., Le Taz Hot Sep 2015 #17
This. hifiguy Sep 2015 #19
She is far worse than useless. hifiguy Sep 2015 #7
Power tends to corrupt and absolute power corrupts absolutely. Lord Acton Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #8
With that level of intractability Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #14
I still don't understand how six debates helps upaloopa Sep 2015 #9
The bonafides of name recognition? MoonchildCA Sep 2015 #10
read below upaloopa Sep 2015 #12
Thanks for the definition... MoonchildCA Sep 2015 #16
Wasted point because it means nothing to me upaloopa Sep 2015 #18
Okay, seriously, I don't want to argue with you... MoonchildCA Sep 2015 #20
that is hugely important. Free television, pundit analysis, and news articles ChairmanAgnostic Sep 2015 #21
Because Sanders wins the war of ideas AgingAmerican Sep 2015 #27
Seems she has forgotten who she is supposed to be working for... PoutrageFatigue Sep 2015 #11
This whole debacle hurts Hillary more than what the benefit Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #13
K & R !!! WillyT Sep 2015 #15
which means that the Democratic Party is a fucking JOKE Agony Sep 2015 #22
I can't say it enough, Schultz is a disgrace and from an integrity point of view, Uncle Joe Sep 2015 #23
GOOD! FlatBaroque Sep 2015 #25
...+1 840high Sep 2015 #26
 

HooptieWagon

(17,064 posts)
2. Protecting the oligarchs from the people.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 02:49 PM
Sep 2015

How undemocratic, but from her not unexpected. The Third Way has been pulling that shit in Florida for a while.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
3. I'd do the first four that are scheduled before primaries
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 02:51 PM
Sep 2015

and then tell her to fuck herself and go debate anyone and everyone running who wants to do so after that.

Sorry for the language, but she pisses me off.

Kenjie

(122 posts)
4. So the punishment is
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:03 PM
Sep 2015

being uninvited from future DNC debates if a candidate takes part in an unsanctioned event. Then she says that there will be forums that are not in debate format. It would have been nice to have her answer the obvious follow-up questions. Why is she so allergic to the idea of more than six debates and why do they have to be DNC only?

Maybe it is time that some of the candidates got together and organized debates? They can reach out to groups that want their issues addressed and get a much better series of debates. I'm sure the media would show up because of the theater of it all and it would give exposure to candidates that are being silenced by DWS.

Her job is to get Democrats elected but she sure does invent some interesting ways of working counter to that goal.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
17. Both parties agreed that they wanted to control the debates, i.e.,
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:09 PM
Sep 2015

give the candidates questions in advance, not allow a REAL debate forum because most of the morons running for the presidency can't think on their feet -- basically, you can blame the Democrats AND the Republicans for taking it out of the hands of the LWVs several years ago. It was all about control.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. She is far worse than useless.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:05 PM
Sep 2015

Stumps for Repukes, shills for Clinton. Jesus, what a fucking trainwreck.

Puzzledtraveller

(5,937 posts)
14. With that level of intractability
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:04 PM
Sep 2015

I would be courting her to replace Prince Rebus or w/e his name is for new RNC chair.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
9. I still don't understand how six debates helps
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:32 PM
Sep 2015

Hillary. If you can't get your message out traveling around the country how is a debate going to help you?
You get six shots at Hillary in front of whoever is tuned in. How many do you need? If you can't do it in six how are you going to do it in more?
Why does Hillary have more name recognition? Because she put in the time. First Lady of Arkansas, First Lady of the United States, Senator from New York, Presidential candidate and Secretary of State. She got name recognition the hard way, she earned it.
No number of debates will give any other candidate those bonafidies.

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
10. The bonafides of name recognition?
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:52 PM
Sep 2015

Well, if that's what is important here, then the Donald's a shoe-in.

upaloopa

(11,417 posts)
12. read below
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:01 PM
Sep 2015

informal
documentary evidence showing a person's legitimacy; credentials.
plural noun: bona fides; plural noun: bonafides

MoonchildCA

(1,301 posts)
20. Okay, seriously, I don't want to argue with you...
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:40 PM
Sep 2015

...but you tried to make the point that Hillary has all this name recognition, because she earned all of it, and really, that's fine, she did.

The point I was making is, who cares about name recognition? How is that relevant to her being a great candidate/president? (And I'm not arguing her qualifications here--I think she's qualified enough--she's just never been my first choice.) It helps her in early polling, and providing we are able to witness healthy discourse, that's about it. She's going to have to bring a lot more to the table during the campaign. Again, I'm not arguing that she won't, just that to focus on name recognition as being the "bonafied credential" that she "earned" seems a trivial qualification to base a case on.

The debates are for discussing issues. Last time around we had about 17 before the primaries even started, now I think there are only 4 before the end of the year. You may not need more debates, to make a decision, but many people do, especially the independents and undecideds who really decide elections. The republicans are having debates like crazy. (And yes, feel free to interpret the "crazy" how ever you wish.) The general public is getting a chance to see these candidates over and over. They lead all the news stories for weeks afterwards.

This isn't just bad for the individual candidates (besides maybe Hillary), it's bad for the entire Democratic Party, and I'd venture to say the entire democratic process.

ChairmanAgnostic

(28,017 posts)
21. that is hugely important. Free television, pundit analysis, and news articles
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 04:42 PM
Sep 2015

that tail on for weeks.

DWS is an idiot in search of her village.

 

AgingAmerican

(12,958 posts)
27. Because Sanders wins the war of ideas
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 07:40 PM
Sep 2015

They are afraid to debate him, period. They don't want his message getting out, period.

This is damage control by DWS.

 

PoutrageFatigue

(416 posts)
11. Seems she has forgotten who she is supposed to be working for...
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:55 PM
Sep 2015

...not who she WANTS to be working for...

Agony

(2,605 posts)
22. which means that the Democratic Party is a fucking JOKE
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:19 PM
Sep 2015

President Obama should jerk this up short.

Uncle Joe

(58,378 posts)
23. I can't say it enough, Schultz is a disgrace and from an integrity point of view,
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:24 PM
Sep 2015

she's bankrupt.

Thanks for the thread, Lorien.

FlatBaroque

(3,160 posts)
25. GOOD!
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 07:13 PM
Sep 2015

That POS will continiue to be an albatross around Hillary's neck. They are now equally identified with the stale, moldy wing of the Democratic party. When people like Debbie are expunged from the party, some of us may consider re-establishing our membership.

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