2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumon Ann Romney's"you people"
it seems that ABC and the New Yorker
have said Ann Romney didn't say it ...
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/07/did-ann-romney-say-you-people-the-road-argument-at-a-truck-shop-boehner-on-bachmann-rubios-anti-pledge-drive/
You People? What Did Ann Romney Say About Mitts Taxes on GMA? Theres a Debate Online.
Was it And weve given all people need to know and understand about our financial situation and about how you know, how we live our life.
Or was it And weve given all you people need to know and understand about our financial situation and about how you know, how we live our life.
Our ruling after reviewing the original audio is that she did not include the you.
Judge for yourself - http://abcn.ws/PnqXZP
http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2012/07/ann-romney-you-people-taxes-video.html
As a rule of thumb, "you people" is not a very nice way to address a group of people. Sometimes, it comes off as racist. Or it can seem scornful and condescending when the utterer is, say, extraordinarily wealthy and "you people" refers to the American public. So when Ann Romney told Good Morning America today that she and her husband had released "all you people need to know and understand about our financial situation," it was the verbal equivalent of watching her trample a homeless man on her dressage horse, and predictably, the quote went viral.
The only problem is that, after watching the video, we're pretty sure she never said it.
snip
Sounds more like "We've given all [stumble] people need to know," if you ask us. The letter y definitely makes an appearance in there, but the word you does not. Maybe Romney was going to say, "We've given all you need to know," and decided at the last moment to replace "you" with "people."
the reason I am posting this is to provide a different look at this situation.
rateyes
(17,438 posts)femmocrat
(28,394 posts)And she did not say "blah" people either! LOL
Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)littlewolf
(3,813 posts)give cover for something like this ?
does not make sense ....
I have some seriously hearing damage so
I can not tell exactly what she said ...
liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)Fucking Magic she said but she didn't.
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)Pure F*cking Magic ...
especial when a communications circuit
would come up and no explanation ...
riverwalker
(8,694 posts)the GOP or your lying ears?
I saw on Twitter the GOP got the memo to say she didn't say "you". So I listened and listened again, and CLEARLY she says you people.
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)This, folks, is news. Any way you look at it, this is a jaw-dropping turn in journalism, and it raises a lot of questions. Among them: Can you trust the reporters and news organizations who do this? Is it ever justified on the candidate's side or on the reporter's side? Where is this leading us?
No approval, then get the sound engineers on it.
Sorry, OP - heard it with my own ears. Not buying the post-blowup "explanations" on this one. #YouPeople was trending at the top of twitter all day apparently, too. So, I don't feel alone...
littlewolf
(3,813 posts)so I can not make it out .... I saw the NYorker ... and thought
they would be unbiased
Ruby the Liberal
(26,219 posts)I don't trust that those friendly to Willard aren't trying to tweak that to make it go away.
LuvLoogie
(7,016 posts)Ann Romney clearly said "You people."
Your link has an edited version deleting "you"
Malikshah
(4,818 posts)They got most of the "you" cut out...but not all.
The version I heard and was replayed has it clear.
The cover up by ABC is only going to serve to blow this thing up. SHAME ON ABC! Serious breach of journalistic ethics....
HopeHoops
(47,675 posts)MIDNITERIDER1438
(113 posts)She sounds a little "Sara Palinish". Let her keep blabbing away.
avebury
(10,952 posts)avebury
(10,952 posts)before she say people. It is a poorly doctored clip. I watched a clip of the interview yesterday where is was 100% clear that she said YOU PEOPLE.
shanen
(349 posts)Okay, so her speaking coach messed up. I think the "you people" is certainly what she was thinking--but quite probably in the sense of "you non-Momon gentile people" rather than "you non-wealthy peasant people".
What I want to see is the pastiche video showing what Romney is REALLY thinking: "Vote for me so that government of the corporations, by the lawyers, for the richest 0.1% of Americans, shall rule the earth!"
Sometimes the truth can only be captured with a touch of fiction. Hemingway was right about higher truths...
arbusto_baboso
(7,162 posts)Plus, she's got a history of this kind of shit-talk. She said that for her and Mitt it is "their turn" for the White House. So, whether "you people" was stated or not doesn't matter.
jenmito
(37,326 posts)Igel
(35,323 posts)Several times she said "you", referring to what the interviewer said others wanted.
It sounded strange the first time she did it, because it made the interviewer out as the person doing the asking. Granted, it was "media folk" and the interviewer was one, but it was unnecessarily defensive and sounded that way.
She started to say "you" again and then swapped it out for "people." She got out the sound [y] (English letter "y" and even a bit of the /u/, but she never finished the sound. Not long enough, no rounding at the end of the word (typical for her pronunciation). It's a kind of dysfluency, one that's called (conversational) repair. You've goofed in some way and need to fix your sentence.
It could have been a sloppy edit. But why would it be that really good editors that splice things together in ways that you need really good software to identify suddenly go editing-dumb? Using freeware on my ancient PC little ol' amateur me could have done a better editing job.
Most telling, though, is that the sentence and word level stresses were wrong. When you say "you people" in a condescending way primary stress falls on "you" because "you people" is a phrase, not separate words. At best there's secondary stress on "people." In this clip "you" is fully destressed and "people" bears primary stress. In some social dialects of English that may be okay for a condescending "you people", but I don't know of one used by middle- or upper-class speakers of anything close to standard American English. Those using Obama's quote "you didn't build that" are attacked for pulling a whole sentence out of context and ignoring the rest of the discourse--then we pull half a syllable out of context and act like that's a really good way of doing things?
The string "you people" isn't aways condescending even if it's isn't a case of repair. "Hey, you---people standing there in the rain--there's room in here!" Again, native speakers seem to lose their native competence when there's a self-supporting reason to do so.