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Samantha

(9,314 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:38 AM Sep 2015

2016 Dem contenders: Bernie is the Bomb, Biden is the spitball warrior, Hillary is opaque

I really like Joe Biden but I think rather than his heart speaking, others are quietly trying to nudge him into the race whether he is emotionally ready or not. They might be the same people who spread the Gore rumors because they assumed someone like Biden or Gore could steal Bernie's thunder. I truly believe the institutional Dems are pawing the political earth to find ANYONE acceptable to THEM to derail Sanders because he is an anathema to the Third Way crowd. His policies are definitely not their policies nor are they the positions promoted by their financial "sponsors."

A short aside note: Things do not really go better with Koch....

Additionally, some corporate financial type came out and said either Jeb Bush or Hillary would be acceptable to them. Really? Speaking only for myself and as the liberal I am, that was a nail in Hillary's political coffin. I do not dislike Hillary, and at times over the years I have even admired her, but her positions on issues are not my positions, and to me above all else this is the year to vote on issues, not personalities or gender.

Bernie is the Bomb in this "revolution." Biden would be the spitball candidate. Hillary is opaque. Webb is a pollitical ghost, and Lincoln Chafee is the amorphous one.

So you will not hear me "bashing" either Hillary or Biden on this site. I will instead continue to support Sanders. I use to wish some time ago when I would see Olbermann interviewing him that Bernie would run for President. I thought he would never consider it because of his age. It does appear as is often said "age is just a frame of mind" for Bernie and he has got what it takes to make a big difference in the middle class and the impoverished lives of many Americans. I think he is our last chance to turn things around.

Additionally, Biden said recently he is no populist, and he thinks Sanders is doing a hell of a job gathering support. I do think the noises we have been hearing about Biden's running come not from Biden's surety of purpose at this difficult time but from the bellies of Dems who think Bernie is just too far to the left.

It would be extremely important for Bernie should he win the Democratic primary to single out someone who is like-minded who would continue down the same political road on which Bernie is traveling should something happen to Senator Sanders. If Elizabeth Warren is not interested, I hope Martin O'Malley is chosen to be Bernie's second. Former Senator Russ Feingold would also be not only a stellar second, but the choice alone would be a thumb in the eye of Scott Walker. Could not happen to a better deserving Republican....

Just my two cents, and I am throwing them into Bernie's campaign pot.

Sam

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2016 Dem contenders: Bernie is the Bomb, Biden is the spitball warrior, Hillary is opaque (Original Post) Samantha Sep 2015 OP
Been thinking about this phrase - Additionally, Biden said recently he is no populist, and he thinks djean111 Sep 2015 #1
It is good to toss these ideas around but I am not so sure this is what they were thinking Samantha Sep 2015 #2
I see your point, but I doubt Debbie DINO does anything that will not, at some point, djean111 Sep 2015 #3
On that subject Samantha Sep 2015 #4
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. Been thinking about this phrase - Additionally, Biden said recently he is no populist, and he thinks
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:49 AM
Sep 2015
Sanders is doing a hell of a job gathering support."
I believe the DNC's intention all along was to have Bernie gather support that would not have been there for Hillary - due to ISSUES or ennui - and then drop out and instruct his supporters to support Hillary. Really, a cheap and easy method of scooping up those who are not supportive of Hillary and her issues.

I don't think that is what is going to happen. not sure what will happen, but I don't think scooping up Bernie's supporters is gonna happen. But I do think the DNC sees Bernie as just gathering up support that can be given to Hillary.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
2. It is good to toss these ideas around but I am not so sure this is what they were thinking
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:57 AM
Sep 2015

Additionally, Bernie is not exactly a company man, so I don't think he would have gone along with that. I think his idea all along was to garner as much support as possible for his own ideas. I think the Democratic strategists thought if Biden ran, he would pull support from Bernie which would help Hillary's number. But that is just what I think because unfortunately I have no inside track to the strategists' war room.

Sam

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
3. I see your point, but I doubt Debbie DINO does anything that will not, at some point,
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:04 AM
Sep 2015

benefit Hillary.

Samantha

(9,314 posts)
4. On that subject
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:20 AM
Sep 2015

We are in 100% agreement. And that is why she still has that job.

Some time ago, I read a comment by someone campaigning for office who was having a difficult time raising money approached her for assistance. He rattled off his positions hoping she would like them and give him a hand. She said (loosely paraphrasing) "do not hand me any of that populist crap." And she did nothing, not even give him advice.

Sam

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