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RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 08:13 AM Sep 2015

Op-ed: "Hillary's problem isn't your obsession with her emails"

Many people here will agree with this!

Hillary's problem isn't your obsession with her emails
9/9/2015

Have I mentioned recently that the 2016 presidential race is kind of insane. And no, this post isn't about Do....that guy. We've talked about him enough for now. But what about the insane number of candidates? Every day I'm jolted by the thought of someone I completely forgot was even running....George Pataki? Lindsey Graham? Jim Webb? Jeb Bush? And what about those crazy voters? While most folks are still locked into their ideological boxes, a lot of voters have reached the conclusion that if America's problems are to be solved, it won't happen with your garden-variety blow-dried American politician. Better to elect a doctor who thinks Obamacare is worse than 9/11!

Anyway, all of this makes 2015-16 a terrible, terrible time to be Hillary Clinton.

As it probably should be, in a way. It's not that she's too old or, heaven forbid, that she's a woman. On the age front, a dude whose five or six years older -- Bernie Sanders -- is tearing it up on the campaign trail, and on the gender front, it's embarrassing in 2015 that America has never had a female president. But this particular 68-year-old woman is just too closely associated with all of the bad things that our perhaps crazy-like-a-fox electorate is worked up about. Income inequality? Her husband fostered that with a pro-Wall Street agenda that included repealing the Glass-Steagall Act, setting the stage for the 2008 economic crisis. Ditto for mass incarceration. As a senator, Hillary Clinton voted to authorize the horribly ill-conceived invasion of Iraq. Her conversion on the 2016 campaign trail toward a more progressive agenda is a good thing, but a lot of Democratic voters are asking themselves, why vote for a convert when we can have the real thing? Even with her tack to the left, executives at Wall Street's Goldman Sachs said they'd be equally happy with Clinton or Bush. Makes you think, doesn't it?

And that's not her only problem. In most long-lasting marriages, opposites attract, so is it really a shock that the wife of the greatest natural-born politician of the 20th Century is stiff and wooden out on the trail? And there's the troubling matter of ethics. The obscene amount of money that both Clintons have been paid by corporations and by international interest groups to give short uneventful speeches may be legal, but that doesn't dispel the notion that to get rich in America in 2015, who you know matters more than what you do. The whole Clinton Foundation thing, although it's surely done some good works, still comes off as a little dodgy -- politically connected folks making too much money, huge donors with a little too much interest in who becomes our 45th president.

What I'm trying to say is that if you're looking for reasons not to vote for Hillary Clinton...they exist. And every day, in the comments on this blog and in occasional emails, I hear from people who indeed have no intention of pulling the lever for Hillary '16 -- and yet they only occasionally mention the many issues above. They just want to talk about one thing.

The emails.....

....Big Snip....

Read more at http://www.philly.com/philly/blogs/attytood/Hillarys-problem-isnt-YOUR-obsession-with-her-emails.html#L4e27D7u9FJ7dcJ0.99
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djean111

(14,255 posts)
1. I don't care about the emails. It is the TPP, fracking, H-1B visas, Wall Street, things like that,
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 08:25 AM
Sep 2015

that make me a Bernie supporter. And now - I have a 20 year old grandson, why would I vote for someone who seems to be bragging that they will not hesitate to use military force?

Can't do it.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
3. I have to admit, this article is speaking to me. I care most about the things you list, djean,
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 08:52 AM
Sep 2015

But apparently, most people can sweep it under the rug, given her poll numbers. The personal email for STATE business with a server in her bathroom, to me, is a symptom or even a symbol, of all that is wrong with her candidacy.

And the actual reason she went to such extraordinary lengths to hide her communications and then delete half of them when ordered to turn over her server, is known only to her, but for the world to see, it all reeks.

And it leaves us open to true devastation if charges are brought after the primary if she is our nominee. The guy who set it up is pleading the fifth. There's a reason for that, and only a fool would believe its simply because he's publicity shy.

But the OP is right, bottomline.

peacebird

(14,195 posts)
2. Did you see how Hillary is planning win women over?
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 08:39 AM
Sep 2015
http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_factor/2015/09/08/hillary_clinton_makes_another_bid_for_female_voters_with_a_birchbox_style.html

A 'thx box' with make up, and swag... Because everyone knows women care more about getting a cute pink pantsuit emoji than any silly old politics stuff....

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
4. Yes, I saw that! Too dumbfounded to comment on it yesterday.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 08:57 AM
Sep 2015

And today, I still don't have words, peacebird. Its so insulting. So plastic. So incredibly dehumanizing. I guess I have words, lol, just not the ones which can adequately describe how I feel.

Hydra

(14,459 posts)
5. We hear a lot about the emails
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:05 AM
Sep 2015

And I do want to know if she mishandled classified info- that's not a small thing. My issues with her as President are her and the rest of the DLC's policies- how is it that they are blatantly pushing a far right agenda in a party that is supposed to be on the left? If I wanted Poppy Bush again, I'd just vote for Jeb.

RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
7. Bingo!
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:19 AM
Sep 2015

This nails it, Hydra. Thank you. We need to fight for an actual Democrat(D) to win, rather than a Republican(D).

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