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Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 11:48 PM Sep 2015

Why would a business pay Hillary Clinton $315,000 for a 20 minute speech?

More than a quarter of a million dollars for a 20 minute speech? Really? I just don't see how this is a prudent business decision.

From the Washington Post

In one of her last gigs on the paid lecture circuit, Hillary Rodham Clinton addressed an eBay summit aimed at promoting women in the workplace, delivering a 20-minute talk that garnered her a $315,000 payday from the company.

Less than two months later, Clinton was feted at the San Francisco Bay-area home of eBay chief executive John Donahoe and his wife, Eileen, for one of the first fundraisers supporting Clinton’s newly announced presidential campaign.

The two events spotlight the unusually close financial ties between Clinton and a broad array of industries that have issues before the government and paid millions of dollars to her and her husband, former president Bill Clinton, in the months preceding the launch of her presidential campaign.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-was-paid-millions-by-tech-industry-for-speeches/2015/05/18/f149d598-fd86-11e4-805c-c3f407e5a9e9_story.html

Note: According to the IRS for a business expense to be deductible it must be ordinary and necessary. So exactly how is it necessary for a business to pay $315,000 for a 20 minute speech? As one of the voters in the 99% category, I'm just so confused....

As a poster pointed out below (thank you) to be necessary it has to be helpful. So how was it helpful to pay over a quarter of a million dollars for a 20 minute speech?

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Why would a business pay Hillary Clinton $315,000 for a 20 minute speech? (Original Post) Skwmom Sep 2015 OP
its only money reddread Sep 2015 #1
Groundhog Day? DURHAM D Sep 2015 #2
wasnt ebay the producer of Meg Whitman? reddread Sep 2015 #3
Low on e-mail ammo perhaps. But she gave a million dollar presentation oasis Sep 2015 #5
Hillary did NOT get paid!! mccallen Sep 2015 #4
Here you go. Skwmom Sep 2015 #8
From the IRS standpoint "necessary" is equivalent to "helpful" for your business. PoliticAverse Sep 2015 #6
Hmmm. wonder what "help" they were expected to get for their business... n/t Skwmom Sep 2015 #9
LOL. nt MannyGoldstein Sep 2015 #7
Because Louis CK wasn't available? Armstead Sep 2015 #10
Louis CK's minimum for a corporate or private gig ranges from 500K to one million dollars depending Bluenorthwest Sep 2015 #37
Nice work if you can get it Armstead Sep 2015 #40
Nobody's worth that. arikara Sep 2015 #11
So now we believe Trump? leftynyc Sep 2015 #19
If they really wanted to promote women in the workplace, wouldn't using that Fawke Em Sep 2015 #12
It's corrupt politics as usual. We need change. We need to get the corruption rhett o rick Sep 2015 #13
To make for an exciting meeting and/or draw attendees. They don't want a boring hasbeen if they Hoyt Sep 2015 #14
They could get just about anyone for that kind of cash. Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #15
Like who, with 8 years in White House, a Senator, SS, maybe next Prez? Hoyt Sep 2015 #22
Quid pro quo Clarice! Juicy_Bellows Sep 2015 #16
That was gooooooood, Clarice. hifiguy Sep 2015 #45
Now I think you know the answer to that question. Smarmie Doofus Sep 2015 #17
Oh, people are talking about your question. Skwmom Sep 2015 #30
Most admired woman in the US for like 12 years. That's how. McCamy Taylor Sep 2015 #18
Buzz. It's not difficult. Recursion Sep 2015 #20
It's not a "speech" to the people with the bucks. It's an "investment". Buns_of_Fire Sep 2015 #21
Both Clintons always give good quid for their pro quos. Divernan Sep 2015 #27
Investment? The word I'm hearing begins with a consonant that comes before "i" in the alphabet. Skwmom Sep 2015 #31
And you care because? leftofcool Sep 2015 #23
I care because every problem this country has can be traced to our govt being controlled RiverLover Sep 2015 #25
Smackdown! Scuba Sep 2015 #32
Boom. hifiguy Sep 2015 #44
It's not illegal and Republicans do it too! CanadaexPat Sep 2015 #24
No Need To Ask The Question - We Already Know The Answer cantbeserious Sep 2015 #26
It's the market. If someone is willing to pay it, someone is willing to deliver. Vinca Sep 2015 #28
No Need To Ask The Question - We Already Know The Answer cantbeserious Sep 2015 #29
Yeah, but there's no quid pro quo. Honest! Scuba Sep 2015 #33
is this DU youceyec Sep 2015 #34
You funny. hifiguy Sep 2015 #43
Perhaps because a speaker's fee is deductible, HereSince1628 Sep 2015 #35
it would take more than 20 years to earn that much at $7.25/hr tk2kewl Sep 2015 #36
Same reason some famous sports figures and actors get that kind of money. Their name is worth it stevenleser Sep 2015 #38
wasn't always that way... tk2kewl Sep 2015 #41
There was a time when.... 99Forever Sep 2015 #39
Take a wild guess. hifiguy Sep 2015 #42

oasis

(49,395 posts)
5. Low on e-mail ammo perhaps. But she gave a million dollar presentation
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 11:57 PM
Sep 2015

On "the Deal" Wednesday.

Hillary's a big draw. Sure, she's worth every penny she made on the circuit.

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
6. From the IRS standpoint "necessary" is equivalent to "helpful" for your business.
Wed Sep 9, 2015, 11:59 PM
Sep 2015

From: http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Deducting-Business-Expenses

What Can I Deduct?

To be deductible, a business expense must be both ordinary and necessary. An ordinary expense is one that is common and accepted in your trade or business. A necessary expense is one that is helpful and appropriate for your trade or business. An expense does not have to be indispensable to be considered necessary.
 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
37. Louis CK's minimum for a corporate or private gig ranges from 500K to one million dollars depending
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:35 AM
Sep 2015

on logistics and size of venue as well as depth of pocket book.

arikara

(5,562 posts)
11. Nobody's worth that.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 12:39 AM
Sep 2015

Do they all own her then, like Donald Trump? Remember he said he made a donation to her so he could get her to do what he wanted. He said he told her to come to his wedding and she did.

Something really stinks.

 

leftynyc

(26,060 posts)
19. So now we believe Trump?
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:14 AM
Sep 2015

They've already asked Hillary why she went - she said she was invited (as all powerful NYers were - she was our senator at the time) and she thought it would be fun. As for this - companies pay speakers who they think will fill up their room. It's really pretty simple but leave it to DUers to find something nefarious in such a common practice. $300K is chicken feed and it's written off as a business expense.

Fawke Em

(11,366 posts)
12. If they really wanted to promote women in the workplace, wouldn't using that
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 12:41 AM
Sep 2015

$315,000 to give the women at ebay a raise be more in keeping with the goal of the meeting?

 

rhett o rick

(55,981 posts)
13. It's corrupt politics as usual. We need change. We need to get the corruption
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 12:42 AM
Sep 2015

out of politics. Clinton has made millions from politics. She is part of the problem.

Cut the billionaires and their puppets out of politics. Support the people's candidate Sen Sanders.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
14. To make for an exciting meeting and/or draw attendees. They don't want a boring hasbeen if they
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 01:08 AM
Sep 2015

can afford someone better.

Juicy_Bellows

(2,427 posts)
15. They could get just about anyone for that kind of cash.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 01:33 AM
Sep 2015

So why did they settle for the boring has been?

Sorry, that was low and slow, right over the plate.

 

Smarmie Doofus

(14,498 posts)
17. Now I think you know the answer to that question.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 02:42 AM
Sep 2015

The more troubling question is: why do so many people WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY pretend to see nothing wrong with this behavior and defend a system that keeps reproducing it?

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
30. Oh, people are talking about your question.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 08:30 AM
Sep 2015


Even lifelong Democrats that have went to the polls year after year and voted a straight Democratic ticket.

The Democratic establishment obviously finds nothing wrong with how the Clintons conduct "business."

The people endorsing Hillary Clinton obviously have no problem with how the Clintons conduct "business."

The Clinton surrogates obviously have no problem with how the Clintons conduct "business."

The hacks that write smear pieces for the Clintons (I won't call them journalists b/c the concept of journalistic integrity eludes them) obviously have no problem with the way the Clintons do business.















Recursion

(56,582 posts)
20. Buzz. It's not difficult.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 05:25 AM
Sep 2015

Hillary Clinton is a huge name. Getting her to speak at your business summit attracts investors and clients.

Imagine it were not Hillary Clinton but rather Ronda Rousey or Serena Williams or Miley Cyrus. Getting any of those would be a coup.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,187 posts)
21. It's not a "speech" to the people with the bucks. It's an "investment".
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 06:09 AM
Sep 2015
"Someday, and that day may never come, I may call upon you to perform some small service for me..." ~Don Vito Corleone (paraphrased)

Skwmom

(12,685 posts)
31. Investment? The word I'm hearing begins with a consonant that comes before "i" in the alphabet.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 08:46 AM
Sep 2015

Let's refer to it as the "unspoken" word. The word that no one dares to speak (well at least on line that is).

I'm simply shocked that voters with a limited 1,200 word vocabulary (as one "smart" poster pointed out) are even aware of this "unspoken" word? Of course, with their limited vocabularies, maybe that's why they are using that word.





RiverLover

(7,830 posts)
25. I care because every problem this country has can be traced to our govt being controlled
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 07:37 AM
Sep 2015

by the Moneyed Interests that purchase the representatives who are supposed to represent US, but legislate only for their Big Money sponsors.

Vinca

(50,299 posts)
28. It's the market. If someone is willing to pay it, someone is willing to deliver.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 08:08 AM
Sep 2015

Sadly, they'd probably only offer me $3.15. The bottom line is the world of the megawealthy is not like the world we commoners live in.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
36. it would take more than 20 years to earn that much at $7.25/hr
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:23 AM
Sep 2015

20 years... 20 minutes... who's counting anyway?

 

stevenleser

(32,886 posts)
38. Same reason some famous sports figures and actors get that kind of money. Their name is worth it
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 10:42 AM
Sep 2015

for the draw.

 

tk2kewl

(18,133 posts)
41. wasn't always that way...
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:59 AM
Sep 2015

I remember have MLB athletes show up at my little league dinners as a kid.

Money trumps all these days... sad

99Forever

(14,524 posts)
39. There was a time when....
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 11:01 AM
Sep 2015

....the leadership of the Democratic Party would have called this what it is and stood against it.


We USED to have moral and ethical leadership.

Vote Sanders and help it return.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
42. Take a wild guess.
Thu Sep 10, 2015, 03:00 PM
Sep 2015

She also made $400,000 speaking to Goldman Sachs. Somehow I don't think she was telling the vampire squid anything that made it uncomfortable in the slightest.

"Here's the problem: You and I, most of the people we know, there's no way in hell we can afford to have Clinton come speak and spend time with us," McGehee says. "This speaking engagement game is a game that favors the wealthy interests, just like our campaign finance system." (emphasis added)

Much more at: Hillary Clinton's Speaking Circuit Payday: $5 Million (and Counting) http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/hillary-clinton-goldman-sachs-private-equity-white-house-2016

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