2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumWhy would a business pay Hillary Clinton $315,000 for a 20 minute speech?
More than a quarter of a million dollars for a 20 minute speech? Really? I just don't see how this is a prudent business decision.
From the Washington Post
In one of her last gigs on the paid lecture circuit, Hillary Rodham Clinton addressed an eBay summit aimed at promoting women in the workplace, delivering a 20-minute talk that garnered her a $315,000 payday from the company.
Less than two months later, Clinton was feted at the San Francisco Bay-area home of eBay chief executive John Donahoe and his wife, Eileen, for one of the first fundraisers supporting Clintons newly announced presidential campaign.
The two events spotlight the unusually close financial ties between Clinton and a broad array of industries that have issues before the government and paid millions of dollars to her and her husband, former president Bill Clinton, in the months preceding the launch of her presidential campaign.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/hillary-clinton-was-paid-millions-by-tech-industry-for-speeches/2015/05/18/f149d598-fd86-11e4-805c-c3f407e5a9e9_story.html
Note: According to the IRS for a business expense to be deductible it must be ordinary and necessary. So exactly how is it necessary for a business to pay $315,000 for a 20 minute speech? As one of the voters in the 99% category, I'm just so confused....
As a poster pointed out below (thank you) to be necessary it has to be helpful. So how was it helpful to pay over a quarter of a million dollars for a 20 minute speech?
reddread
(6,896 posts)Oh, by the way, they might be able to use a few more H1B holders...
DURHAM D
(32,611 posts)reddread
(6,896 posts)oasis
(49,395 posts)On "the Deal" Wednesday.
Hillary's a big draw. Sure, she's worth every penny she made on the circuit.
mccallen
(24 posts)It was ALL for charity!
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)From: http://www.irs.gov/Businesses/Small-Businesses-&-Self-Employed/Deducting-Business-Expenses
To be deductible, a business expense must be both ordinary and necessary. An ordinary expense is one that is common and accepted in your trade or business. A necessary expense is one that is helpful and appropriate for your trade or business. An expense does not have to be indispensable to be considered necessary.
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)MannyGoldstein
(34,589 posts)Armstead
(47,803 posts)Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)on logistics and size of venue as well as depth of pocket book.
Armstead
(47,803 posts)arikara
(5,562 posts)Do they all own her then, like Donald Trump? Remember he said he made a donation to her so he could get her to do what he wanted. He said he told her to come to his wedding and she did.
Something really stinks.
leftynyc
(26,060 posts)They've already asked Hillary why she went - she said she was invited (as all powerful NYers were - she was our senator at the time) and she thought it would be fun. As for this - companies pay speakers who they think will fill up their room. It's really pretty simple but leave it to DUers to find something nefarious in such a common practice. $300K is chicken feed and it's written off as a business expense.
Fawke Em
(11,366 posts)$315,000 to give the women at ebay a raise be more in keeping with the goal of the meeting?
rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)out of politics. Clinton has made millions from politics. She is part of the problem.
Cut the billionaires and their puppets out of politics. Support the people's candidate Sen Sanders.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)can afford someone better.
Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)So why did they settle for the boring has been?
Sorry, that was low and slow, right over the plate.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Juicy_Bellows
(2,427 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Was that one of yours?
Smarmie Doofus
(14,498 posts)The more troubling question is: why do so many people WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY pretend to see nothing wrong with this behavior and defend a system that keeps reproducing it?
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Even lifelong Democrats that have went to the polls year after year and voted a straight Democratic ticket.
The Democratic establishment obviously finds nothing wrong with how the Clintons conduct "business."
The people endorsing Hillary Clinton obviously have no problem with how the Clintons conduct "business."
The Clinton surrogates obviously have no problem with how the Clintons conduct "business."
The hacks that write smear pieces for the Clintons (I won't call them journalists b/c the concept of journalistic integrity eludes them) obviously have no problem with the way the Clintons do business.
McCamy Taylor
(19,240 posts)Recursion
(56,582 posts)Hillary Clinton is a huge name. Getting her to speak at your business summit attracts investors and clients.
Imagine it were not Hillary Clinton but rather Ronda Rousey or Serena Williams or Miley Cyrus. Getting any of those would be a coup.
Buns_of_Fire
(17,187 posts)Divernan
(15,480 posts)Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Let's refer to it as the "unspoken" word. The word that no one dares to speak (well at least on line that is).
I'm simply shocked that voters with a limited 1,200 word vocabulary (as one "smart" poster pointed out) are even aware of this "unspoken" word? Of course, with their limited vocabularies, maybe that's why they are using that word.
leftofcool
(19,460 posts)RiverLover
(7,830 posts)by the Moneyed Interests that purchase the representatives who are supposed to represent US, but legislate only for their Big Money sponsors.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)hifiguy
(33,688 posts)CanadaexPat
(496 posts)So there!
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Vinca
(50,299 posts)Sadly, they'd probably only offer me $3.15. The bottom line is the world of the megawealthy is not like the world we commoners live in.
cantbeserious
(13,039 posts)eom
Scuba
(53,475 posts)youceyec
(394 posts)or SexismUnderground?
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)Enjoy your stay.
HereSince1628
(36,063 posts)and technically bribery isn't?
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)20 years... 20 minutes... who's counting anyway?
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)for the draw.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)I remember have MLB athletes show up at my little league dinners as a kid.
Money trumps all these days... sad
99Forever
(14,524 posts)....the leadership of the Democratic Party would have called this what it is and stood against it.
We USED to have moral and ethical leadership.
Vote Sanders and help it return.
hifiguy
(33,688 posts)She also made $400,000 speaking to Goldman Sachs. Somehow I don't think she was telling the vampire squid anything that made it uncomfortable in the slightest.
"Here's the problem: You and I, most of the people we know, there's no way in hell we can afford to have Clinton come speak and spend time with us," McGehee says. "This speaking engagement game is a game that favors the wealthy interests, just like our campaign finance system." (emphasis added)
Much more at: Hillary Clinton's Speaking Circuit Payday: $5 Million (and Counting) http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2014/05/hillary-clinton-goldman-sachs-private-equity-white-house-2016