2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumBernie Sanders: What he thinks about a completely open border.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/07/31/bernie_sanders_against_open_borders_that_would_substantially_lower_wages_in_this_country.html
Corporations want a completely open border so they can keep bringing in a cheap supply of labor.
HappyPlace
(568 posts)The RW and TW conspired long ago to keep the stream of cheap labor flowing.
TW do this under the cover story that it's a human rights issue, but then never go after employers the way they should to make sure humane working conditions are met.
I call bullshit on them all.
Go Bernie!
Skwmom
(12,685 posts)Mnpaul
(3,655 posts)not so easy to be here legally so they don't have to pay minimum wage. Both groups are responsible for them coming here. Nafta devastated the agriculture sector in Mexico.
mopinko
(70,129 posts)to check ss numbers of job applicants. bush shut it down.
HappyPlace
(568 posts)Bush was very good at one thing: having bad ideas and undoing good ones.
cali
(114,904 posts)Puzzledtraveller
(5,937 posts)Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)I am not certain what that would look like? Close up the border patrol? Shut down the border entry stations? Who is advocating for a "completely" open border? And what is it?
dreamnightwind
(4,775 posts)that the border issue has been the way it is because corporations want the cheap exploitable labor.
We should be in favor of legal, regulated immigration, with quotas or criteria of some sort. As far as I know that's how other nations do it, and it's still the law here, but the lawless corporations who run our government have been "insourcing" on the sly.
If we want more immigrants, we should raise the quota, or make official immigration easier. Instead, we have millions of undocumented people living here, in some weird legal limbo where they can't make any trouble (such as protest their wages or lack of rights and benefits) without fear of discovery and deportation.
If the corporations had their way, there would be a small ownership class, and the rest of us would lack full status as citizens, we would be guest workers who could be removed at their whims.
Warren DeMontague
(80,708 posts)Sanders is right. We need to provide a path to citizenship for those here but also control immigration.