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Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 03:35 PM Sep 2015

Will Biden run?

I think he will because Hillary's dropping like a hot rock and he can play the "not as bad" card. "Not as bad - radical - liberal) as Bernie and "Not as bad" as too conservative Hillary" , and "Not as bad as the Republicans".

I also think that if he runs it will turn into a 3 way race with each of them having a chance of winning the nomination. I hope he does run so it will split the establishment vote and give Bernie a better chance.


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Will Biden run? (Original Post) Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 OP
sanders is the least republican of the 3 alleged democrats lol. nt msongs Sep 2015 #1
Yup. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #2
Spot On cantbeserious Sep 2015 #3
He's actually a Democrat, hifiguy Sep 2015 #4
I like Joe a lot. longship Sep 2015 #5
I think he will. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #8
I think his personal situation trumps that. longship Sep 2015 #11
I find it all very interesting with many possibilities and outcomes possible. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #12
One thing for sure. It is fun! ;-) nt longship Sep 2015 #13
I LOVE Joe Capn Sunshine Sep 2015 #6
maaaybe, but there's a feeling that he's being pushed in that direction, with Obama and Warren MisterP Sep 2015 #7
I agree to a point. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #9
hence his being pushed: he's quite Establishment (being to the left and to the right of Clinton MisterP Sep 2015 #14
Other: I don't care me b zola Sep 2015 #10
My guess is he won't Rochester Sep 2015 #15
It's guaranteed. Puzzledtraveller Sep 2015 #16
Maybe. AtomicKitten Sep 2015 #17
depends on how bad it gets for HRC, and how quickly. Warren DeMontague Sep 2015 #18
I agree. Tierra_y_Libertad Sep 2015 #19

longship

(40,416 posts)
5. I like Joe a lot.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 04:04 PM
Sep 2015

But I sincerely doubt that he is going to jump into the race. Although it is not too late -- remember RFK in 68? -- I just don't see it happening.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
8. I think he will.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 04:11 PM
Sep 2015

He's a lifelong politician and the gold ring is dangling out there because Hillary is fading and the establishment Democrats consider Sanders too liberal. He could step in and drain Hillary's diminishing support, lose some/win some to Bernie and have a good chance of being nominated.

longship

(40,416 posts)
11. I think his personal situation trumps that.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 04:24 PM
Sep 2015

Like him or not, Joe is above all a nice guy. I may be wrong, but I think he stays out.

Either way, it is going to be fun. Maybe more fun with Joe in the race, however. In the end it is up to him and his family.

We will likely see soon enough.

My best to you.

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
12. I find it all very interesting with many possibilities and outcomes possible.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 04:27 PM
Sep 2015
More so than the usual establishment charade tweedle-dum vs tweedle-dee.

Capn Sunshine

(14,378 posts)
6. I LOVE Joe
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 04:08 PM
Sep 2015

In my opinion, he should be the Vice President for life. But starting so late, with all the stuff he knows now, I justy don't know.

Dr. Jill took a teaching position just last month that commits her through Oct of 2016 is that's any indication.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
7. maaaybe, but there's a feeling that he's being pushed in that direction, with Obama and Warren
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 04:09 PM
Sep 2015

meetings and a whispering campaign in favor; and more than that, people feel it's *unseemly*, given his son's recent death--there's the impression among even casual observers that he's being pulled from the graveside to save the Establishment's bacon as a compromise candidate acceptable to the top ("right&quot and bottom ("left&quot of the party

of course that'd make him an assigned, installed, handpicked--nay, drafted--feint to keep out a candidate whose "threat" to the party is that he has a growing backing

 

Tierra_y_Libertad

(50,414 posts)
9. I agree to a point.
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 04:13 PM
Sep 2015

But, there is a gap there between Bernie and Hillary that he could fill and have a chance of winning the prize.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
14. hence his being pushed: he's quite Establishment (being to the left and to the right of Clinton
Mon Sep 7, 2015, 04:55 PM
Sep 2015

on about an equal number of issues) but would be "acceptable" to economist populists (despite being a steadfast MBNA Joe)--he's done real work with Amtrak for the "rebuild America" types

Rochester

(838 posts)
15. My guess is he won't
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 12:42 AM
Sep 2015

He's in his 70s and he's spent over 40 years in Washington. It's too easy for me to imagine him saying "I'm done." I bet he'd also rather be remembered as a kick-ass vice president than a three-time failed candidate if he doesn't get nominated, or loses the general. And his son just died. So I'm not expecting him to run.

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
18. depends on how bad it gets for HRC, and how quickly.
Tue Sep 8, 2015, 02:21 AM
Sep 2015

I'd say it's still a possibility, but not a slam dunk by any means.

Personally, Biden's down near the bottom of my choices for nominee right now, unless he were to get up there and seriously renounce some aspects of his past that give me major misgivings, like his status as architect of and apologist for the drug war.

I have respect for Vice President Biden, I have sympathy for his recent personal loss, I think he's done a fine job as veep- but I don't see supporting an enthusiastic drug warrior for the nomination, not in 2016.

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