But Bernie is a Socialist!

[ErikJ]

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[cascadiance]

1. Yep, communist dictators like Joseph Stalin look to other 1%ers like the Koch family...

... to help them build their empire! Bernie's not aligned with communists like Stalin like they were.

[MisterP]

11. don't forget Gen. Singlaub: as crazy as Edwin Walker and a hundred times sicker

Gen. Walker didn't fly down to Buenos Aires to meet with occult fascists and plan an autonomous cocaine-running network of death squads from Foggy Bottom down to Ushuaia

[99th_Monkey]

2. K&R - This should be fun during the way-too-late, too-few debates. -nt-

[mopinko]

3. i have made myself a little rule.

anyone who opines that bernie is a socialist has to give me a comprehensible definition of classic socialism and democratic socialism, and be able to give me examples of countries that have had each of those systems.
if they cant do that, the conversation is o-o-o-ovah.

[Thor_MN]

7. Bernie describes himself as a Socialist. A Democratic Socialist.

Which certainly has meaning, but meaning that will be lost on your average mouth breathing voter.

I don't know who will win the primary, Sanders has made up some ground but still has an uphill battle. If the primary were decided on Iowa and New Hampshire alone, he would be looking pretty good. If one is honest, he still has a ways to go nationally.

If he does get the nomination, he will be swarmed with a flood of attacks that he has not faced, being an Independent, in a deep blue state. Amongst those attacks will likely be calling him a Socialist, with doomsday music and grainy black & white video of Soviet era parades.

He calls himself a Democratic Socialist, he will need to find a way not to let himself be defined by the GOP.

[Buns_of_Fire]

14. "Defined by the GOP," hell. There are a few people right here in DUland

who can't post anything about Bernie without invariably also mentioning "he's a socialist." (Just like there are some who can't make a Hillary comment without the word "email" in it.)

In over ten years, I've never put anyone on "ignore," but I admit my patience has been sorely tested at times.

[Ron Green]

4. Lots of low-info folks on the Intertubes loves them some labels.

I hope the "Socialist" one plays long enough over the next few months so that people have to actually think about this stuff.

[colsohlibgal]

5. Misunderstood Just Like The Second Amendment

Libraries, roads, bridges, power lines, police, fire, it all runs on socialism for the Commons, the public good.

The plutocrats want to associate it with evil because they are greedy and want to avoid taxes; even though they drive or are driven on public roads/bridges and access police/fire departments as needed.

We need a more conscientious and educated public to thwart the plutocracy.

[PowerToThePeople]

6. But if you go carrying pictures of Chairman Mao

You ain't going to make it with anyone anyhow.



FYI - every time I hear that song, I think "man that was some serious fascist propaganda they were spewing there."

[TBF]

10. Product of their times ...

they grew up during the 50s - I don't know if the propaganda was as thick in the UK as it was in the US but seeing that they traveled a bit with their music (and made a whole lot of money off it) I'm not exactly surprised by their lyrics.

[MyNameGoesHere]

8. A Democratic Socialist is

one who has let themselves believe in the notion that socialism and capitalism are somehow compatible. They are not. I think that Social Democrat describes Sanders perfectly. Sanders is no socialist.

[Baadger]

9. Keep it simple

Democratic Socialism means having a democratically elected government spend money on infrastructure and social services that benefit society.

[Scuba]

13. /\_/\_This right here_/\_/\

[Spitfire of ATJ]

12. Always figured if it's an AMERICAN company than AMERICA should benefit from it.