2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumIf HRC is the nominee, to what extent will the Prison for Profit issue hurt her chances to win?
Will the Obama coalition still come out and vote for her? Why or why not?
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)LettuceSea
(337 posts)JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)We are a strong part of the Democratic Party base who show up even when there's nothing in it for us! If anything - we are part of the LBJ coalition.
Erich Bloodaxe BSN
(14,733 posts)is who the Republican nominee is, and how nutty they are, and in which ways.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Preach!
PatrickforO
(14,576 posts)The corporate propaganda organs won't report it, and the talking heads won't ask the question.
Out of sight, out of mind, and the profits keep rolling in.
LettuceSea
(337 posts)I haven't seen this issue ANYWHERE when it comes to the MSM. They want no part of addressing this issue, which is disturbing.
Having said that, not everyone gets their news from the MSM, especially the Hispanic community. I could see the GOP doing some good ole fashioned rat f***ing, posting signs in their communities. That would cost us big time, 2016 and beyond. Ugh.
From a voting perspective, we're lucky Donald Trump is out there doing his thing, distracting everyone from this issue.
Bluenorthwest
(45,319 posts)and because private prisons go back to Ronald Reagan. Was Obama asked about them? Has he been strongly petitioned by any movement to shut them down? Not really. This indicates that among those who are most focused on justice issues, that aspect is not as important as other aspects of the problem.
One of the reasons for this is that the problems with prisons are not just in privately owned prisons, and most of our prisons are public facilities, not private.
6% of State prisoners are in private facilities. 16% of Federal prisoners are in such places. There are also a few States with privately run local jails.
So while there should be none at all, people who speak about the issue tend to do harm to the cause of ending private prisons by inflating the size and nature of the problem. What we hear is that all the prisons are for profit and they keep building them and filling them with people. But the percentage of prisoners held in such facilities is not that large. This means it would not be all that hard to get rid of them.
At the same time, ridding the private companies from owning detention facilities still leaves us with all of the problems that continue in and around our public prisons. Which are basically the same problems as the private ones. So we end all private prisons, nothing has really changed for the prisoners, nor for the accused, the unfairly arrested. 'Now that you've been racially profiled and railroaded, you can sleep easy knowing your prison will be a publicly owned facility!'
brer cat
(24,567 posts)jwirr
(39,215 posts)President Obama was running the specific issue of criminal justice reform was not a central issue. It is today so ending private prisons is a big problem.
I don't think any of the candidates are going to be able to avoid any of the issues contained in criminal justice reform regardless who started the problem.
seabeyond
(110,159 posts)i cant find it.... but, i think she will do fine on the subject.
AgingAmerican
(12,958 posts)And we all know that MONEY is what wins elections, not ideas...