The **NEW** DU Primary 2016 Poll

[Agschmid]

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Agschmid (a host of the 2016 Postmortem forum).

Who do you support?

In alphabetical order by last name...

311 votes, 0 passes | Time left: Poll closed
	Biden
	6 (2%)
	Chaffee
	1 (0%)
	Clinton
	23 (7%)
	O'Malley
	2 (1%)
	Sanders
	271 (87%)
	Webb
	0 (0%)
	Other (Please Post)
	1 (0%)
	Undecided
	7 (2%)
	0 DU members did not wish to select any of the options provided.
Show usernames Disclaimer: This is an Internet poll

[jberryhill]

1. Sydneys Voluptuous Buttocks

http://www.fec.gov/fecviewer/CandidateCommitteeDetail.do?candidateCommitteeId=P60005931&tabIndex=3

Name: BUTTOCKS, SYDNEYS VOLUPTOUS (O - OPEN)
Office Sought: P - PRESIDENT
Election Year: 2016
State: US - UNITED STATES, District: 00
Party: INDEPENDENT

[Agschmid]

2. Lol.

#America

[Old Crow]

40. Ummm... can you explain a bit about Sydney's Voluptuous Buttocks?

I think I missed the memo.

[jberryhill]

43. I linked to the FEC statement of candidacy

[Buns_of_Fire]

73. Future headlines write themselves, don't they?

[ericson00]

3. what about Deez Nuts?

he would feel left out.

On another note, I bet Chaffee still polls at zero, even here

[Agschmid]

4. Sorry we have rules here about who we include in our internet polls...

[PowerToThePeople]

5. ‘Deez Nuts’ endorses Bernie Sanders for Democratic bid

https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/politics/2015/08/22/deez-nuts-endorses-sanders-for-democratic-bid/aBtRce4ozb9NLItt368buJ/story.html

[Agschmid]

6. And John Kasich on the Republican side...

Oh boy.

[PowerToThePeople]

7. sounds like he is looking for an easy Dem win.

[Agschmid]

8. I think in the GE Kasich would be a tough opponent.

He's got the moderate "appeal" thing.

[PowerToThePeople]

9. I have not followed the clown car

You could be correct. I'll probably start to pay attention to those losers closer to general election time.

[sabrina 1]

28. I think the opposite is true. He won't get much Repubican support. So he'll be depending

on Dems to get anywhere. And while I can see that some Dems, who tend to be supportive of conservatives, see the NJ Gov race eg, most Dems will not vote to put Repubs in the WH.

However, it's very unlikely that Kasich will win the Repub primary.

More of a tough opponent would be Bush because if they don't win fairly after pouring billions into the race, they are likely to steal it.

[Garrett78]

69. Republicans would definitely vote for Kasich.

While Kasich may not inspire the base as much as some other Republicans, Kasich would definitely get their support. And he's from the crucial state of Ohio. A Kasich-Rubio ticket (with Florida being the other crucial state) could win in spite of the electoral college map favoring Dems. If Clinton is the Democratic Party nominee, you can bet the Republican base will be inspired regardless of who their nominee is. If people think the leftist critique of Clinton is harsh, just wait until the Republican Party starts focusing its attention on her. She's extremely polarizing and has a very high "unfavorable" percentage. The hate is irrational (suggesting that she's a liberal extremist, which is absurd), but since when do Republican voters care about rationality?

Do I think Kasich will be the nominee? I wouldn't bet on it, but it wouldn't shock me either. I'd say he's the 3rd most likely behind Walker and Bush. I'd almost bet money that Rubio will be the VP nominee regardless, though a Bush-Rubio ticket might be "too Florida" for the Republican Party to consider. Then again, Florida is the single most important state.

[sabrina 1]

85. Where is Kasich in the Repub polls right now?

[greiner3]

118. From PublicPolicyPolling today;

"Democrats lead 14 out of 15 of the general election match ups we tested in the state. The strongest Republican is John Kasich, who leads Hillary Clinton 43/41. While the rest of the Republican hopefuls trail with independents, Kasich ties her with them at 38%. And Kasich is also winning over 14% of the Democratic vote to Clinton's 10% of Democrats."

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/john-kasich/

I don't buy the 'Kasich would win OH' line.

He was a big cog in the 2008 meltdown, his over the top religious and anti union views and more will show the country, much less OH that he is NOT a leader but an opportunist.

[Enthusiast]

163. I would never make predictions on Ohio as Husted has it totally rigged.

[Betty Karlson]

108. In today's news: Puerto Ricans are moving en masse to the Orlando area.

An estimated 400.000 mostly Democratic new voters. Get out the vote and Rubio may well lose his home state.

[Agschmid]

75. Republicans would absolutely vote for him.

The only thing that could impact that would be a 3rd party run.

[sabrina 1]

87. SOME Republicans would vote for him. Where is he right now in the polls?

[Curmudgeoness]

90. Kasich isn't a friend to Democrats.

During a speech before Ashtabula County Republicans in March 2009 when he was running for governor of Ohio, Kasich talked about the need to "break the back of organized labor in the schools."

....

In June 2013, Kasich signed into law a state budget which included anti-abortion measures such as mandating any woman seeking an abortion to have a trans-abdominal ultrasound, and barring abortion providers from entering into emergency transfer agreements with public hospitals.[64] The bill stripped some $1.4 million in federal dollars from Planned Parenthood by placing the organization last on the priority list for family-planning funds.[64][65] The bill also provided funding to crisis pregnancy centers, which do not provide abortion referrals.[65] Under the budget, rape crisis centers could lose public funding if they counseled sexual assault victims about abortion.

....

Kasich said that the Environmental Protection Agency should not regulate carbon emissions and that instead states and private companies should be in charge of regulating coal-fired power plant emissions.

....

Kasich is the supporter of the controversial Keystone XL oil pipeline project.

....

During Kasich's tenure as governor, he pushed to expand charter schools, increase the number of school vouchers that use public money to pay for tuition at private schools, implement a "merit pay" scheme for teachers, and evaluate teachers by student standardized test scores in math and reading.

....

Kasich favors allowing public school districts "to teach alternatives to evolution—such as intelligent design—if local school officials want to.

....

In February 2014, Kasich signed into law a bill which cut six days from Ohio's early voting period, including the "golden week" (a period at the beginning of early voting when voters could both register to vote and cast an in-person absentee ballot).

Just to highlight a few of his stands. More at: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Kasich

[Warren DeMontague]

10. Another order of Deez Nuts, please

[Agschmid]

11. I'm sorry we've run out of nuts did you check the the Public Transportation & Smart Growth group?

They've got a few...

[Warren DeMontague]

12. Cooking and Baking

with Deez Nuts.

[Aerows]

27. How many Deez Nuts do you want? n/t

[merrily]

59. Deez endorsed Bernie and Kasich.

[Warren DeMontague]

61. Well if anything's going to sway me, it's gonna be the endorsement of the summer's top 15 yo troll.

I mean, the kid pulled a seriously funny move, I'll grant him that.

[merrily]

62. You were the one who asked for more Deez. I merely complied.

However, ageism aside, I don't think he chose poorly. Gun to my head to pick someone from the clown car, I probably would have picked Kasich, even though he, too, makes me gag.

[Warren DeMontague]

63. I honestly havent really thought about it, myself.

Shit, at this point I kind of want Trump, because he holds the potential to sink the GOP's chances not just for this cycle but for the next 10-20 years.

[merrily]

64. Four to eight years of Trump is what this country really needs right now.

If Republicans nominate him, they're far dumber than they appear--and that ain't easy. However, he would never win an election in which normal people also vote.

[Warren DeMontague]

65. Well, that's the danger in that plan.

There's always the off chance the fucker could actually get the thing.

[merrily]

66. Highly doubtful.

Coincidentally, I just posted about this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=42715

BTW, what plan did you think I was proposing?

[Warren DeMontague]

67. Oh, like I said, I think the odds are he'd alienate a massive # people & tarnish the GOP brand

for a generation.

Latinos are the fastest growing demographic in the US voting population.

At this point they may generally feel the GOP is not particularly favorable to their interests, but every second Trump is in front of a camera, the GOP becomes the party of "We Hate You" in Spanish.



That's one reason why Trump drives whatever intelligentsia is left in that party, like George Will, positively fuckin' bonkers.



That's the "plan" I was referring to--- mine, here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251546848#post63

[merrily]

68. I'm not clear. Are you saying that his being the Republican nominee would cause Americans to turn

away from Republicans for a long time, or are you saying that his being President would cause Americans to turn away from Republicans for a long time? I realize that either of those things would do it, but I don't think Americans will elect him. America ould survive him, I imagine, as it survived Dimson, but the damage will be great and there is only so much damage from the likes of Dimson and Trump that the country can sustain long term.

As an aside, fifteen or not, I have to give Deez Nuts credit for not choosing Trump, as so many of his elders apparently have.

[Warren DeMontague]

89. The first. I don't think he'd win, either.

But he'd trash the GOP in the process of losing.

[merrily]

113. He's doing a pretty good job of trashing it now, saying things about his opponents a Dem

would never say. I must say, I am enjoying that part of it.

[Agschmid]

13. I'm going to bed, please keep this kicked!

[Jim Lane]

14. Still undecided between O'Malley and Sanders. (n/t)

[ericson00]

15. what's wrong with Chaffee? C'mon, he's gotta get on the board SOMEWHERE

honestly, if someone forwarded him as the goose egg on a very progressive forum, would he drop out? Honestly, if I go to a Dem debate and get to ask a candidate a question, I just might ask him why he's polling zero even on the net roots.

[Ino]

23. I'd take Chaffee over Hillary. (nt)

[Jim Lane]

72. Chafee got the Iraq War thing right, I'll give you that much

He's caught in the Catch-22 of contemporary American politics: You can't gain the support to do well in the polls unless voters and the media take you seriously as a candidate, and you aren't taken seriously as a candidate unless you do well in the polls.

Lincoln Chafee is an honorable man who was clearly right to change parties. From his Wikipedia bio:

A liberal Republican, Chafee was frequently ranked as the least conservative Senate Republican, and to the left of some conservative Democrats. He opposed eliminating the estate tax, voted to increase the top federal income tax rate, voted against allowing drilling in Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, supported an increased minimum wage and was the only Republican Senator to vote against authorizing the use of force in Iraq. Chafee is pro-choice, supports same-sex marriage, affirmative action, gun control and federal funding for embryonic stem cell research and opposes the death penalty and a Flag Desecration Amendment to the United States Constitution.

If his father, John Chafee, had ever been President, instead of just a Governor and Senator, then Lincoln would now have the name recognition to be a leading contender.

Having a former Republican on the ticket would help us make the case to even lifelong Republicans that their party had left them, in its mad lurch to the right. As a side benefit, we could give Falafel Boy (Bill O'Reilly) a fit, because when Chafee was Governor he referred to the decorated fir tree at the State House as a holiday tree rather than a Christmas tree.

[jeff47]

116. Feel the Chafe!! (nt)

[Gore1FL]

146. +1

lol

[hootinholler]

181. You win teh intertubes with that one!

#FeelTheChafe



I wonder if we can get it trending?

[brooklynite]

16. So, Bernie Sanders is "sinking"?

Remember the April poll that everyone talked about where he was ahead 90-10? Guess it was just name recognition...

[onehandle]

17. It's the Trump effect.

After all, The Donald and Senator Sanders are totally ruling New Hampshire.

[PowerToThePeople]

19. Poll is pretty fresh

Give it time...

[MannyGoldstein]

20. Wasn't it only 85-15?

Seems like the rest of America is quickly catching up with DU.

[John Poet]

178. That poll included ONLY a choice between Hillary or Bernie.

There were no other candidate choices,
and no "undecided" option.

so it's apples and oranges.

[L0oniX]

18. kick

[Old Crow]

21. Wow. I wasn't aware the Bernie fans outnumbered the Hillary fans by such a wide margin.

From all the back-and-forth, I was under the impression that it was closer to 50-50 than 80-20.

[merrily]

60. Poll from April surprised me--and Bernie had not even announced informally then.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026592890

[Old Crow]

81. That is surprising.

And I think the wording of the April poll--''Forget if you think they are electable"--explains why the first poll was 90:10 Bernie and this one looks to be more like 75:15. It stands to reason that some percentage of Hillary supporters (10%?) are in her camp not because they prefer her, but because they think she is more electable than Bernie.

[merrily]

114. I can't speak to why people support Hillary. I'm fairly sure some do simply because

she's the one the Party is backing. However, the April poll was only between Bernie and Hillary. This one includes Biden, O'Malley, Webb and Chafee. Also, in April, more Hillary supporters were still pretending to be Bernie supporters, for reasons best known to them.

[marlakay]

93. Obviously her fans are more vocal

I know I mostly read and don't start threads but rarely.

[zappaman]

22. Chaffee

Getting the metric system is my top concern.

[Kali]

34. oh god I love the metric system

one clinic I go to uses it, don't mind getting on that scale at all

yes I can fool myself that easily I love the way that tiny number sounds!

[progree]

24. Ooops, I'm back. Forgot to REC. nm

[Aerows]

25. I'm an unabashed Bernie Sanders supporter.

I think he has what it takes to win the Primary and then go on to win the General Election.

He has harnessed some massive enthusiasm, even among Libertarian leaning Republicans.

He says what he does, and he does what he says. You can't focus group that kind of integrity, and you can't PR trust.

[stevenleser]

37. Libertarians won't vote Sanders. Nt

[mopinko]

100. dunno about that. especially the ones who dont know

they are libertarians. met an awful lot of them that think they are just independents.
i think he has a lot of crossover appeal.

[stevenleser]

104. See my #103 below. nt

[Tommymac]

102. Proof please?

Two of my relatives and 3 of my friends are self proclaimed libertarians and they are supporting Bernie Sanders.

Anecdotal, but seems to refute your absolute.

[stevenleser]

103. Your friends won't vote Sanders either. This kind of stuff happens every election season.

Libertarians, who believe that taxation is evil and that any kind of government action is tyranny are not going to support a progressive who wants to use the government creatively to provide social safety nets, stiff regulation and more progressive taxation.

It's the same reason in reverse why a Progressive won't vote for a Libertarian.

There is 30-40% agreement between the two groups. The 60-70% disagreement is on substantial issues.

People on both sides claim excitement for some of the candidates on the other side, but it never comes to anything.

[Tommymac]

105. Thanks for knowing my friends and family better than me. nt

[stevenleser]

107. Always happy to help. nt

[senz]

26. This is so nice, Agschmid.

Makes me feel like the dancing girl in your sig line.

[SamKnause]

29. Kick

[zeemike]

30. Poor Webb is still at 0 you would think someone would show some sympathy

And vote for him.

[Old Crow]

31. Hmmmm...

Hillary Clinton has far greater name recognition, better political connections, and a warchest that dwarfs Bernie's... but with all those advantages, in a poll of some the best-informed Democrats around, she's getting pummeled. What would that suggest?

~ponders~

[Ed Suspicious]

32. Kicking so all the other candidate's supporters can add their vote. I don't know why they're so shy?

The vote is your voice! Get in here!

[juajen]

139. It wouldn't take my vote, that's why.

[Ed Suspicious]

33. Maybe it really is "Sanders Underground."

[JDPriestly]

106. DUers are unusually well informed. That's why Sanders polls so well.

[hifiguy]

130. 100% THIS.

and kick!

[Zorra]

144. Makes sense. nt

[AnotherDreamWeaver]

35. K&R

I was looking at Bernie hats today...

Maybe I'll get one.
I sent a note asking where I could send a check.

[Starry Messenger]

36. Good old President Kucinich of DU

[Old Crow]

38. Ah, yes, John Edwards. I remember him well.

Great reminder that a lot can change between now and the primaries, let alone the general election.

[Starry Messenger]

42. Great reminder that DU polls are just that. Straw polls.

bobthedrummer did a great series of them over the years. The results changed as we got closer to the election.

[Old Crow]

45. No doubt, no doubt.

Now, if I can just figure out how Sydney's Voluptuous Buttocks figure into all of this.

[Starry Messenger]

48. Well, I go by this old bit of Lounge wisdom.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x7950254

Don't touch the butt.

[Old Crow]

50. LOL! That may become my new signature line. (N/T)

[Marty McGraw]

125. Sorry

Last edited Wed Aug 26, 2015, 07:47 PM - Edit history (2)

Image Links seem to not be able to be posted.

privileges must not be set up right

That's why the deletes. No sense in posting then.

I wish there was a DU Bucket we could use as temporary storage to link to. one with a size and duration limit I suppose.

Would be cool

[beac]

123. Thank you for the reminder of one of DU's greatest posts ever.

Feels good to laugh in the midst of all this primary strife.

[senz]

39. Nice to know DU has always been true blue lefty.

Bet you wouldn't have posted it if Hillary were ahead.

[Starry Messenger]

44. Hillary was behind in that poll. So was Obama.

I was an Obama supporter in 2007, so I while I appreciate you sharing your heartfelt opinion, I can't see how that follows. I have been here for 10 years, and am observing a fact about DU and the fun of our straw polls.

[beam me up scottie]

46. "Observing a fact" by comparing Bernie to Kucinich.

Are we having fun yet?

We sure are!

[senz]

51. Perspicacious

That's you compared to me, bmus. But I'm ok w/Starry Messanger. She had a right to defend herself against my little dig. It's cool.

[beam me up scottie]

52. If it's cool with you I'll retract my claws.

[senz]

54. I appreciate your kindness.

It more than makes up for some of the coolnesses one encounters here and there. Thanks, bmus.

[beam me up scottie]

55. You joined during the worst possible time.

No one trusts anyone else and there are outside forces trying to sow dissent - hence the bannings today.

So if people are mean to newbies that could be the reason.

And some are just mean that way.

[senz]

56. And sometimes that's just the way it is.

There are a couple of people in the HC group who manage to throw a load of iciness my way, so it's not always politics. Sometimes people just rub one another the wrong way. But...

Okay, off to bed for me. Sweet dreams, little green kitty.

[beam me up scottie]

57. But you've made friends on all sides so you're obviously good people.

They just have to pay attention and they'll see it too.

Good night, senz.

[senz]

99. Made a mistake there (too sleepy) --

wrote "HC" supporters when it should have been "Bernie supporters." And that's why the "That's life," etc.

Anyway, G'morning, bmus.

[beam me up scottie]

137. I think it's only because of the influx of trolls.

No one I know thinks you're one.

[mopinko]

133. that was probably more to do with the mirt switchover.

just tidying up for the new crew.

[beam me up scottie]

134. You're right, I'm learning about MIRT now.

Today is my first day.

It's awesome so far.

[mopinko]

136. it's fun.

i will prolly re-up for the next term.

[senz]

47. Yes, I know.

Thanks -- I thought you were dissing this poll w/Bernie ahead. Didn't know you were just having fun.

[Starry Messenger]

49. I always strive to have fun.

Life is short. Please enjoy this DU classic, linked above, in honor of a lesser known candidate, Mr. S. V. Buttocks. http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x7950254

[senz]

53. LOL that is so cute. Thanks!

[redwitch]

70. Still makes me laugh.

Thanks for the reminder!

[beam me up scottie]

41. How'd that work out for Hillary?

I forget.

[stevenleser]

76. She got historically the second most powerful position in the government. So all in all, not bad. nt

[FSogol]

71. +1 Good times....

[stevenleser]

88. One thing this poll settles is who is capable of bullying who in terms of alerts and juries.

Looks like on average, a jury is seated with 75% Sanders supporters and 13% Clinton supporters.

That explains timeouts for Bravenak and various others.

[murielm99]

91. And all the 4-3 hides of posts by

Hillary supporters.

[stevenleser]

92. Yep. Considering that according to this poll, each jury has 6 Bernie supporters and 1 Hillary

supporter, a 4-3 vote to hide a post by a Hillary supporter has 4 Bernie supporters voting to hide and two voting not to hide.

That probably indicates that post should not be hidden.

[whatchamacallit]

95. Boo Hoo

[artislife]

132. ^^^this.

[jeff47]

117. Yes, look at this completely bully-free jury I was on.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Sat Jul 25, 2015, 12:46 PM, and the Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: Bernie fans always get a hide from me.

[stevenleser]

128. Right because one juror voting some way out of 7 constitutes bullying.

From what you wrote, I'm pretty sure you don't understand what bullying means.

[jeff47]

131. It's an actual data point instead of conjecture.

Also, it's not just one "side" that has bullies.

[Agschmid]

149. Hopefully you alerted on those results?

[jeff47]

153. Yep, and posted in AtA.

The juror was banned. Apparently it was a troll under a new account.

[Agschmid]

154. Good.

[stevenleser]

165. It's not a data point. And a poll is not conjecture THAT is a data point. You are confused. nt

[kenfrequed]

169. No sorry but it IS conjecture

You are attempting to extrapolate rigged juries off of support in a poll when you have not even come close to determining how many people that took the poll have the capacity of serving on a jury, are willing to do so, and actually do take part.

Also a poll would be a 'data set', not a 'data point.' But that is just quibbling over words on my part.

Ultimately what your post seems to be about is casting aspersions on people that you disagree with.

[totodeinhere]

121. I support Bernie but when I get on a jury I try to be objective.

I certainly do not automatically hide Hillary supporters and I do not automatically leave posts by Bernie supporters. Did you ever stop to think that after an objective and fair deliberation the jurors voted to hide those posts because they deserved to be hidden?

[stevenleser]

129. Read my subject again. My point stands. These poll results make it clear...

Who is capable of bullying who in terms of the numbers.

Both camps have been complaining about bullying, it's simply not possible for Clinton supporters to be doing in given this poll result.

[hrmjustin]

127. Yes it does. It explains a lot of bogus results.

[SidDithers]

177. Nailed it...nt

Sid

[SoapBox]

58. Kicked!

Vote!

[Agschmid]

74. Well there you have it...

Wow.

[Old Crow]

82. Thanks, Agschmid. This was great.

Any chance someone could do a straw poll like this once a month, every 25th, say? It would be--channeling Spock here--fascinating to see how the numbers change over the next several months.

Regardless: Kudos to Agschmid!

[Agschmid]

83. I never get kudos...

Thanks!

[Enthusiast]

77. Go, Bernie!

[Kablooie]

78. Boy! Other had better get out there and campaign more.

This is Other's worst showing in years,

(I was just thinking, how would a candidate who is actually named "Other" do?)

[bigwillq]

79. Bernie Sanders (nt)

[SouthernProgressive]

80. With no Jimmy McMillan.

It's Hillary all the way.

[awoke_in_2003]

141. He's a republican. nt

[SouthernProgressive]

164. I believe he has actually been a registered democrat almost his whole life.

He changed party affiliation to benefit him in the primaries. Some candidates do change who they are affiliated with in order to attempt to bolster their run. For the most part he is a populist. That message is pretty consistent. At the same time, one doesn't know what he will say about people on any given day.

"McMillan was a registered member of the Democratic Party.[29] Then, on December 23, 2010, he said that he would switch parties and run as a Republican in the 2012 U.S. presidential election, to avoid a primary challenge from President Barack Obama."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimmy_McMillan

Not that it matters as I was being light hearted.

[awoke_in_2003]

168. Okay, didn't know that...

There is something about him

[hedgehog]

84. K&R

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

86. I voted "Biden" but also like Sanders ...

... what do I know? I voted "none of the above" in the last (2008) primary, because John Edwards wasn't on the Michigan ballot. Of course, this was before John Edwards became known as "that" John Edwards.

[navarth]

94. Edwards was the only one running that talked about the poor

..so I was for him too. Too bad about that.

[awoke_in_2003]

142. That is why I backed him

All the others gave lip service (at best) to the middle class, and totally ignored the poor.

[navarth]

147. BTW I voted for Bernie. Hell yes. nt

[lewebley3]

96. This show this site is not about Dem's; its about a soclist

[mopinko]

101. it's about progressives

party membership is not required.

[Gloria]

126. Good to know that as a progressive

I'm still not really at home here.

Maybe there are other older progressives out there who have a sense of realism about
politics...and that we feel there is value in all our candidates, not just one...and who abhor
candidate bashing....

[mopinko]

135. there are plenty.

most of us are trying to choke down the bile to post to the fools, knowing it is a waste of time.
try not to let the trolls get you down.

[Gloria]

159. Thank you! Is it naivete?

I'm not talking old vs. young here...there are plenty of left over 60's people who are haven't grown up in some ways...

It's just really a pain to have to see one issue voters or the lack of critical thinking skills but when it begins to get hostile to anyone else but "their perfect guy"...that's it for me...

[mopinko]

166. pains me

to see rw propaganda swallowed and belched out here like it was original thought. and/or knee jerk reactions that you know are tinged w prejudice.
wonder if they act that way irl. would be hell to be married to a lot of folks on here.
i guess any dem is better than the best thug in that scenario.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

111. Durn soclists are infiltrating the place.

[Elmer S. E. Dump]

152. I had a soclist once.

When I needed to buy a shitload of socs.

[TBF]

115. Those damned "soclist"s - ruining all the capitalist fun

[jeff47]

119. Protect your precious bodily fluids!!!

( http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0057012/quotes )

[1StrongBlackMan]

97. But, as I've said before ...

My state's primary is after Super Tuesday and most of the swing state contests, so I suspect the nominee will be decided before my primary vote gets counted.

AND I WILL BE HAPPY TO VOTE FOR WHOMEVER IS THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE.

[MacManji]

98. Leaning O'Malley right now

but I'm waiting to see if Biden jumps in and what issues he highlights if he does.

[Lorien]

109. Jives with other online polls that I've seen

From NJ.com: http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2015/07/poll_would_you_vote_for_clinton_or_sanders_for_201.html

[ChiciB1]

148. That's So Amazing... And YET Somehow A Lot Of The DNC AND

MSM must be out to lunch! Never in my life have I seen MY Democratic Party do so much to ignore a candidate that so many people clearly want to nominate!

What a betrayal and actually rather UN-DEMOCRATIC! Thanks for the info "Lorien."

[MyNameGoesHere]

110. Mimi Soltysik

A genuine socialist.

[hrmjustin]

112. I proudly support Hillary.

We may not be in the majority here but we are happy to advocate for her here and elsewhere.

[Gloria]

161. There are a couple of other sites now that are

more welcoming...It reminds me of how the Confluence started for "Democrats in Exile"...

Buzzflash and I parted company when it became so pro-Obama that it started to bash Hillary, that I got sickened by it.
I just didn't want to be associated with that sort of thing.
Honestly, we should be smarter than that...the Rethugs do it to each other, but we should be smarter...

[FreedomRain]

120. like them all

Sanders gets my vote by a nudge, but I am really happy we have such high quality candidates--as usual.

[EvolveOrConvolve]

138. LOL, even with all of our petty infighting at least we can all agree that Webb sucks

[Agschmid]

150. Yup.

[Jim Lane]

155. If Webb somehow gets the nomination, I'll almost certainly vote for him.

The "almost" is in there only to allow for the extremely remote possibility that a more progressive candidate has a real chance to win the election, despite running on a minor-party line. Back here in the real world, where that won't happen, I'll be backing the Democratic ticket. That applies even if it's headed by Webb, currently my fifth choice among the five major candidates.

Webb-Lieberman 2016!

[aikoaiko]

140. DU is Bernie Country.

[Gloria]

160. That is just the attitude that gets people pissed off

It's more than that....

Or should be....

[Iwillnevergiveup]

143. WOW!

What a squeaker we've got.

[RoccoR5955]

145. #FeeltheBern ! n/t

[cantbeserious]

151. No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go

eom

[postatomic]

156. I didn't notice an "All the Above"

So I went with 'other'.

[Agschmid]

158. It's a primary, "all the above" isn't an option.

[postatomic]

162. Got it

I'm still going with other.

Can I ask a question? What was the purpose of this poll? Was it to display the strength that a certain candidate has over this tiny little corner of the internet or was it because you truly didn't know what the result would be and wanted to know?

Or, was there some other reason I'm not getting here?

If you are willing to express your actual intentions I'd greatly appreciate it.

Thanks much!!

[TSIAS]

157. Jim Webb still has no votes

Chafee finally was able to garner a vote. I think this happens in public polling also. Some candidates (Gilmore, Pataki, Webb) are so unknown that they can't even get a single vote in a 600 person poll.

I can see this poll being interpreted in different ways. HRC supports will say that DU is full of far-left loons and not representative of the public at large. Sanders supporters can say that this shows his dominance on a board that represents the grassroots of the Democratic Party.

I'd be interested to see who would be voters' second choice. I went Sanders, but I'd probably have to go O'Malley at #2.

[Hiraeth]

167. How did FlatBaroque get to vote twice?

[KMOD]

172. It's a glitch that happens sometimes.

You will see it in rec's occasionally too.

[Agschmid]

179. Yup.

[Jamaal510]

170. In this order: Biden, then O'Malley,

a 3rd place tie between Sanders and Clinton, Chaffee, and Webb. That's my preference at this moment in time.

[Zorra]

171. Outlier.

[Zorra]

173. ^

[Cheese Sandwich]

174. Probably Sanders...

I heard he eats lunch with the help down in the Senate kitchen.

[L0oniX]

175. Still 9 to 1 like last time.

[SidDithers]

176. Kucinich 2016!!...

As if we needed more evidence that DU in no way resembles the real world.

Sid

[Agschmid]

180. You should check Iowa...

Does seem to be a trend right now.

[fadedrose]

182. Bernie & Joe

Either one will do.

I like both their wives too .. .. .. Jane and Jill both look like really nice women. Both have been very devoted to their husbands which makes campaigning easier on their hustands, just has Michelle has been devoted to Obama, and likewise.

I can just see the majority of foreign states' heads visiting the WH, and their wives get to spend their time with Bill while the "men" talk business with HC....

Golly gees. I just hope the wives aren't jealous if Bill is called to sit in on the Heads discussions and they are not....

Wonderful.

[NCTraveler]

184. lol. Can you say echo chamber. nt.