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think

(11,641 posts)
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:23 PM Aug 2015

Sanders Unveils Women's Rights Policy Initiatives

Sanders Unveils Women's Rights Policy Initiatives

BY NATHALIE BAPTISTE | AUG 24, 2015

Last week, I wrote about Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders’s lack of policy proposals regarding women’s rights. Over the weekend, the campaign updated its website to include several new policy initiatives. Sanders’s new plan for fighting for women’s rights is expansive, and the most detailed in the Democratic field.

If elected president, Sanders would only nominate Supreme Court justices who would protect Roe v. Wade and the right to family-planning services, especially important in the wake of last year’s Sebelius v. Hobby Lobby decision, which set a dangerous precedent for privately owned corporations who wish to deny their employees birth control.

Sanders’s new platform also vows to expand funding for Planned Parenthood, the Title X family-planning program, other initiatives that protect access to abortion and contraception, as well as the Women, Infants, and Children supplemental nutrition program, which provides federal grants to states for food, health-care referrals, and nutrition education for low-income mothers and their children. The Sanders campaign says he is working on a plan to make child care and pre-kindergarten available to all families, regardless of income.

Sanders zeroes in on the “international embarrassment” of being the only major country that doesn’t guarantee paid leave to workers, by calling for employers to provide at least 12 weeks of paid family and medical leave. “It is not a family value to force the mother of a newborn baby to go back to work a few days after she gives birth because she doesn’t have the money to stay home and bond with her baby,” reads the new policy proposal, which he calls a real “family value” (a jab to Republicans)...

Read more:
http://prospect.org/blog/tapped/sanders-unveils-womens-rights-policy-initiatives


Here is the Women's rights issue page:

https://berniesanders.com/issues/fighting-for-womens-rights/



This article can also be found in part in the Democracy Daily section on BernieSanders.com:

https://berniesanders.com/sanders-unveils-womens-rights-policy-initiatives/


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Sanders Unveils Women's Rights Policy Initiatives (Original Post) think Aug 2015 OP
Now this twit is trying to take credit for Bernie's "new" plan to help women? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #1
twit? the twit? must you insult everyone? and it is on sanders.com. surely he approved of the twits seabeyond Aug 2015 #2
The twit who accused him of "struggling" with gender justice? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #5
no. you were not. people pretty much got it. says fuckin everything. seabeyond Aug 2015 #10
Oh trust me, I was. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #12
we KNOW. like you think you are clever. and it does not serve you well. nor sanders seabeyond Aug 2015 #21
good grief. do you ever stop...? cali Aug 2015 #39
oh my, pffffffffffff..... lmao! boston bean Aug 2015 #51
From what I've seen, no. senz Aug 2015 #53
You are being polite! sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #79
That's why the vast majority of DU women support him. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #83
So you think he read it and then rushed this out? Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #23
is this his official site seabeyond Aug 2015 #28
and if you and sanders were working on it for two months, why didnt either of you mention it seabeyond Aug 2015 #29
The information about his record and position on women's issues has been on his website for years. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #38
I never talked with sanders directly Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #46
Because we KNEW his record on Women's Rights. It is excellent. Why have all those elected officials sabrina 1 Aug 2015 #81
And he supports a federal $15/hr minimum wage, Hillary doesn't. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #82
Sorry, BMUS short circuit Aug 2015 #3
Well now BMUS MuseRider Aug 2015 #6
thank you, yes. ERA has to start getting pushed especially after supreme crt scalia made his seabeyond Aug 2015 #8
I doubt he would have a problem MuseRider Aug 2015 #16
agreed. seabeyond Aug 2015 #22
Not all women march in lockstep. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #35
Hillary isn't her candidate. cali Aug 2015 #41
How convenient. #AnybodyButBernie beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #43
I honestly do not think MuseRider Aug 2015 #62
I've seen her posts on other threads. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #64
OK, we are friends MuseRider Aug 2015 #68
I understand. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #70
Me too about 2008 and I MuseRider Aug 2015 #71
Glad to hear these nice things about her. senz Aug 2015 #80
Check out the thread that made me go Wut??? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #9
if it is a hit piece, why is it on sanders site? seabeyond Aug 2015 #11
It wasn't. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #14
this is not officially sanders site? seabeyond Aug 2015 #25
The link I gave you to the original claim was a blog. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #27
so WHAT. you called her a twit, a hit piece and laughed that sanders listened. the link i gave YOU seabeyond Aug 2015 #31
I'm going to leave you with a quote from another pissed off Bernie supporter: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #45
True but it was MuseRider Aug 2015 #13
black people wanted at the table. they yelled and are sitting at the table. women want to sit seabeyond Aug 2015 #19
Sanders did not step up because of her damn article. This platform has been in the works Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #30
i am out. you all enjoy your win with women. inbetween the twit, but not really twit cause being seabeyond Aug 2015 #32
THANK YOU. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #33
ya beam. you are brilliant. seabeyond Aug 2015 #34
No, I'm observant. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #36
I do not have an answer that could be directly from him MuseRider Aug 2015 #37
i hear ya. seabeyond Aug 2015 #40
There will never be a BS thread MuseRider Aug 2015 #44
You're right, that is a hit piece. senz Aug 2015 #48
Hey you! beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #50
I don't call that jaded; I call it thorough. senz Aug 2015 #54
I thought I was done with primaries after what happened in 2008. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #57
This primary is different. senz Aug 2015 #76
That is why so many are flocking to him. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #77
Yeah, people know he's the real deal and is talking about what really matters. senz Aug 2015 #78
Bernie Sanders’s lack of policy proposals regarding women’s rights. seabeyond Aug 2015 #4
TWIT: beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #7
a wanna be supporter talking her concerns. twit. i am not playing your fuckin insult people games. seabeyond Aug 2015 #15
When my candidate is relentlessly attacked every day I get defensive. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #17
thanks SO MUCH for once again, making a positive sanders experience fuckin crap seabeyond Aug 2015 #20
Thanks for proving you don't get it. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #24
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #26
utterly false.flat out untrue. cali Aug 2015 #42
After what I've seen Glenn Greenwald called on this site, I'm not getting worked up about "twit". DisgustipatedinCA Aug 2015 #84
Just now? MaggieD Aug 2015 #18
no not just now. his record is impeccable cali Aug 2015 #47
Then why the fanfare? MaggieD Aug 2015 #49
what fanfare? cali Aug 2015 #52
The big announcement- the "unveiling" MaggieD Aug 2015 #55
Well, if we all made the same money as men, we could go out and buy guns to protect boston bean Aug 2015 #56
Too bad Hillary doesn't back a federal minimum wage of $15/hr then, eh? beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #61
what? boston bean Aug 2015 #63
So are the majority of Dems including Hillary and Obama. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #65
Voting against the Brady bill and sheilding gun makers boston bean Aug 2015 #66
But that's not what you said. beam me up scottie Aug 2015 #67
No, I'm not moving any goal posts. boston bean Aug 2015 #69
honestly, I think you are guided by extreme animosity. cali Aug 2015 #58
LOL. nt boston bean Aug 2015 #60
Partisanship? MaggieD Aug 2015 #72
no. I've never claimed he was a dem. And I meant your devotion to hillary cali Aug 2015 #74
As I have told you multiple times.... MaggieD Aug 2015 #75
If he didnlt have an "unveuiling" you'd be saying.... Armstead Aug 2015 #59
I see he managed to cram Women's Issues under his Revolution umbrella... BooScout Aug 2015 #73

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
1. Now this twit is trying to take credit for Bernie's "new" plan to help women?
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:26 PM
Aug 2015


Her hit piece proved she was hopelessly clueless from the get go.
 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
2. twit? the twit? must you insult everyone? and it is on sanders.com. surely he approved of the twits
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:33 PM
Aug 2015

hit piece

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
12. Oh trust me, I was.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:40 PM
Aug 2015

You don't want to know what I really think about women who swift boat their allies and pretend it's "concern".


 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
21. we KNOW. like you think you are clever. and it does not serve you well. nor sanders
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:47 PM
Aug 2015

nor a thread that should have been VERY POSITIVE for sanders

ya. we KNOW what you meant. talking about a woman. while sanders is standing up for women.
something women COULD HAVE appreciated. we KNOW what you did.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
23. So you think he read it and then rushed this out?
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:49 PM
Aug 2015

That is just flat out ridiculous. He and his team have been working on this for near two months. I know because I was part of the conversation. They wanted to get it right.

Hillary, meanwhile is given nothing but praise for slowly rolling out her positions.


 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
29. and if you and sanders were working on it for two months, why didnt either of you mention it
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:53 PM
Aug 2015

all the times women asked to hear something

a simple.

we are working up our plan, that is taking time, cause we want to get it right

why would you all turn this thread into this? why? how the fuck does it serve sanders as he is trying to do something right for women?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
38. The information about his record and position on women's issues has been on his website for years.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:02 PM
Aug 2015

Anyone who wanted to know where he stood could easily find out if they weren't a twit.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
46. I never talked with sanders directly
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:15 PM
Aug 2015

It was more or less thinking and listening sessions with sanders current positions outlined and comments for expansion or substraction. And some target groups hashing it out amongst themselves.

When he and his team were ready to unveil the platform, the did. No point in blabbing about discussion points and run the chance of misrepresentation.

His team did similar with his platform on race, weeks of quiet talks with activists until it was ready.

sabrina 1

(62,325 posts)
81. Because we KNEW his record on Women's Rights. It is excellent. Why have all those elected officials
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 11:43 PM
Aug 2015

we've supported over the years STILL not managed to get equal pay for women, while Bernie has pushed for years to get it done but couldn't get their support?

He is the best representative of women's rights with a long record to prove it we could women could possibly have.

Another reason why I am supporting him.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
82. And he supports a federal $15/hr minimum wage, Hillary doesn't.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 11:47 PM
Aug 2015

That would lift so many women and children out of poverty, there's no reason for her not to support it.

MuseRider

(34,120 posts)
6. Well now BMUS
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:36 PM
Aug 2015

at least he has started to listen to people

I will read through this soon. I am glad it is out. I did not see any direct mention of the ERA on a scan and I had hoped to but again, he did bring it up again in 2007 I think, so he is good with that. I would like to see someone bring it up every year.

He has always felt comfortable to me as a woman, I always felt he was doing the right things but just not talking about them much. He tends to kind of put everyone in the same basket and essentially it should be that way if we were all equal. I am glad he is putting out more specifics since we are not. BLM has been very helpful, women have been too. I have not seen a lot of LGBT policy yet but I know how he feels about this. Equality is my pet issue so I am feeling really good about this but should read it thoroughly before I commit to much else.

I missed the twit comment, went right over it in my hurry. Please, you were doing so well getting this up for us. Twit is pretty offensive. Talking about a woman and women's issues and twit?

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
8. thank you, yes. ERA has to start getting pushed especially after supreme crt scalia made his
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:37 PM
Aug 2015

statement about women really not addressed in the 14th?

MuseRider

(34,120 posts)
16. I doubt he would have a problem
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:43 PM
Aug 2015

bringing it up again. It would be great if a different person brought it up every year. I don't really care, as long as someone does.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
22. agreed.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:48 PM
Aug 2015

now. i cannot stand how this thread began, and continues. i wont sit in a thread while women play at dissing other women, discussing womens issues.

thak you for speaking up.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
35. Not all women march in lockstep.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:58 PM
Aug 2015

I have every right to defend my candidate from smears, just like you defend Hillary.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
43. How convenient. #AnybodyButBernie
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:07 PM
Aug 2015

They are only concerned with sinking one candidate and they won't stop until he's done.


MuseRider

(34,120 posts)
62. I honestly do not think
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:41 PM
Aug 2015

she has an actual candidate yet. Still looking. She is not an "anybody but Bernie" person but is very keyed into language about women. She can stick up for herself but I thought I would put that out. She is not against Sanders. She will poke them all in her own way until she gets her answers, she deserves that right.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
64. I've seen her posts on other threads.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:42 PM
Aug 2015

She has claimed that Bernie doesn't support women's, poc or lgbt rights.

She is only interested in pushing those memes.

MuseRider

(34,120 posts)
68. OK, we are friends
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:48 PM
Aug 2015

I just know what we have talked about. She does not need me to defend her but I hated to see that comment lay there.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
70. I understand.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:51 PM
Aug 2015

I used to respect seabeyond, she always fought for the underdog.

I'm afraid this primary season is going to be worse than 2008.

MuseRider

(34,120 posts)
71. Me too about 2008 and I
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:55 PM
Aug 2015

am trying to burn as few bridges as I can but I have to admit, some of the people are really getting on my nerves. I must use my ignore feature more.

Sea is a strong woman and I have a ton of respect for her. She fights hard, that is certain.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
80. Glad to hear these nice things about her.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 11:42 PM
Aug 2015

My interactions haven't been so positive. But everyone has their up and down days. I do like her avatar!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
31. so WHAT. you called her a twit, a hit piece and laughed that sanders listened. the link i gave YOU
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:55 PM
Aug 2015

looks like it is from a sanders site. and he handled it a hell of a lot better than you, twit but ot really twit cause you are being polite.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
45. I'm going to leave you with a quote from another pissed off Bernie supporter:
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:13 PM
Aug 2015

" I truly object to you helping to push false memes about someone who has basically spent his whole life standing up for and with average people and the disadvantaged and minorities and women. "

MuseRider

(34,120 posts)
13. True but it was
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:40 PM
Aug 2015

the name calling. Twit, Sorry, I know what you meant but really? We can dislike someone or something they say and call them out about it. We, as women, are awful tired of being called names.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
19. black people wanted at the table. they yelled and are sitting at the table. women want to sit
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:45 PM
Aug 2015

at the table. that one woman wrote an article, and sanders stepped up.

WHY????

why do people have such a huge problem including others beyond their very narrow scope. as if sanders is not capable or needs to be protected.

he is stepping up and even when he does, groups get attacked.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
30. Sanders did not step up because of her damn article. This platform has been in the works
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:54 PM
Aug 2015

long before she wrote her article. He has been working with many women and representatives from women's orgs to get this right.

It is ridiculous to think that this comprehensive plan to address women's issues was rushed.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
32. i am out. you all enjoy your win with women. inbetween the twit, but not really twit cause being
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:56 PM
Aug 2015

polite and all the bullshit.

unbelievable.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
33. THANK YOU.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:56 PM
Aug 2015

Glad I'm not the only one that sees the spin.

I knew they were going to jump on this and try to play it like he just now decided to support women's rights.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
36. No, I'm observant.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:59 PM
Aug 2015

And some HC supporters are predictable and obvious.

I decided to pre-empt the spin that was going to be put on the article by them.

MuseRider

(34,120 posts)
37. I do not have an answer that could be directly from him
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:01 PM
Aug 2015

BUT judging by the way he talks about things and how he has run his campaign I believe I said it in my first post upthread.

"He has always felt comfortable to me as a woman, I always felt he was doing the right things but just not talking about them much. He tends to kind of put everyone in the same basket and essentially it should be that way if we were all equal. I am glad he is putting out more specifics since we are not. BLM has been very helpful, women have been too. I have not seen a lot of LGBT policy yet but I know how he feels about this. Equality is my pet issue so I am feeling really good about this but should read it thoroughly before I commit to much else. "

We talked about this over PM's a long time ago. I still feel that way. I think he thinks of all of us as equal. It is his nature I think. When we bring it to his attention he goes after it. I think this is just him but again, I do not know him or have anything other than my own observation to qualify this.

He is an issues guy. His campaign has been launched with broad issues that affect all of us. Now he can get down to specific issues for groups of people. It was always there, just not during the launch when he needed to garner as much attention from every group he could.

Secretly I think he is glad and happy when groups come to him and raise issues. This is what he has been asking us to do all along. He wants our participation and if we are quiet he will work on the things being brought to him, if we raise a stink he is available.

***I HATE that I used the term "pet issue" YIKES! Ick!

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
40. i hear ya.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:03 PM
Aug 2015

i agree with you. i find this part of his campaign very interesting. gotta get out of this thread.

i will read it later and maybe another thread will come along that we can actually have a good conversation.

things to do.

MuseRider

(34,120 posts)
44. There will never be a BS thread
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:09 PM
Aug 2015

that does not get like this I fear.

He has always been there for us, he is that kind of a guy.

You know it has been worked over the years. He is good for us but not as vocal as you want him to be. 2007 ERA, that says something. Maybe he is not for you but he is for me. We are cool.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
48. You're right, that is a hit piece.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:21 PM
Aug 2015

And I didn't know the piece in the OP (which on the face of it sounds pretty good) was written by someone who has been trying to mislead people about Bernie. Plus...who is defending this...

Thanks bmus, you are much more cognizant of these things than I.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
50. Hey you!
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:24 PM
Aug 2015

Remember when I said I was jaded and you didn't want to be like me?

This is what I'm talking about.


beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
57. I thought I was done with primaries after what happened in 2008.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:35 PM
Aug 2015

Until Bernie decided to run.

I didn't expect the attacks against him to happen quite so fast and be quite so vicious so I guess I am naïve.

He was a darling on DU until now, everyone knew and appreciated how hard he fought for us.

What a change, eh?

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
76. This primary is different.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:31 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie is our only chance to make large, worthwhile changes to business as usual in this country. I don't see anything comparable down the line. Unless the political revolution he has awakened takes off on its own. Hope so, they can count me in.

Didn't know Bernie had been loved on DU until the primaries. I do understand how important Hillary is to certain people. It's a completely different kind of importance from Bernie's though, because it isn't about what she'd do as president; it's about "her." Just, her. Okay, I don't quite understand it.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
77. That is why so many are flocking to him.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:38 PM
Aug 2015

It's his message and it's the same one he's always had.

He walks the walk and knows who the real enemies are, instead of fighting amongst ourselves we need to take on those who threaten our rights.

 

senz

(11,945 posts)
78. Yeah, people know he's the real deal and is talking about what really matters.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 11:37 PM
Aug 2015

I so agree with you that we need to take on those who threaten our rights. That might entail spending a little time on "other" forums, the kind with rightwingers, b/c it is possible to get a rightie to think. Their psychology is different from ours; as democrats and Democrats, we generally aren't hierarchical, but nearly all righties are, so sometimes one has to adopt a "higher up" attitude to get them to pay attention. And it helps to not let them know you're a female.

But Bernie's message is meaningful to all who are trying to get by, all who are working, raising a family, trying to live a decent life. Once they can see that, they start to come 'round. Once they understand that he affirms their existence and respects them. In this way, he is far closer to our nation's founders than any Republican. Washington and Jefferson would have barfed at the current Republican lineup.

 

seabeyond

(110,159 posts)
4. Bernie Sanders’s lack of policy proposals regarding women’s rights.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:35 PM
Aug 2015

now. besides the writer being a TWIT writing a hit piece.... per beam me up scottie

when we said this shit was not being addressed by sanders, we were not the only one. because people spoke, sanders LISTENED, a good thing, and ...

i will go read what sanders has to say

yea, sanders for listening, without calling the woman a twit

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
7. TWIT:
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:36 PM
Aug 2015
I want to support Bernie. I really do. He’s right on the money to call for expanding Social Security, the most effective anti-poverty program in the United States. And I am more than down to fight alongside him against rampant inequality and for better wages and working conditions.

But I have to ask. Why does Bernie struggle so much to talk about gender? Why is it like pulling teeth for him to talk about my identity as a woman in addition to my identity as a worker?

I took a look through his platform recently, and I didn’t exactly see women represented there. For one, most of the policies that would disproportionately benefit women (equal pay, paid family leave, paid vacation, and paid sick days) are housed within the “Real Family Values” section, a classification that implicitly characterizes women’s rights as valuable only insofar as they benefit a larger family unit.

And while the platform mentions abortion briefly, it fails to offer any recommendations about how to preserve and expand access. Due to the Hyde Amendment, federal funds cannot be used for abortion except in limited circumstances. This restriction means that, as a result of economic deprivation, poor women, who are disproportionately Black and Brown, can be forced to carry unwanted pregnancies to term. To reduce these barriers to women accessing basic health care services, Bernie should throw his support behind the EACH Woman Act, a recently introduced piece of legislation that, according to RH Reality Check, “would ensure that anyone who has health care or health insurance through the federal government also has coverage of abortion care.”


http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=519415

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
17. When my candidate is relentlessly attacked every day I get defensive.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:44 PM
Aug 2015

You are so sympathetic to Hillary's supporters but completely oblivious to what it's like to see another candidate called a racist, accused of having rape fantasies, being a gun nut, etc.

How about seeing it from my pov?

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
24. Thanks for proving you don't get it.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 07:50 PM
Aug 2015

I don't accuse Hillary of criminal negligence with regards to email, of being a racist, of being a weak woman, it would be nice if others stopped that kind of behaviour towards all candidates.

Response to beam me up scottie (Reply #24)

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
84. After what I've seen Glenn Greenwald called on this site, I'm not getting worked up about "twit".
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 11:52 PM
Aug 2015

Democratic politicians are a protected class here. Journalists, tv personalities, and writers aren't.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
52. what fanfare?
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:27 PM
Aug 2015

Does Hillary announce it when she rolls out a detailed policy platform? Why yes,mags. Yes she does. And so does every other candidate. Now don't bust a gut trying to diss Sanders.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
55. The big announcement- the "unveiling"
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:30 PM
Aug 2015

Honestly, I don't think Bernie truly understands women's issues any better than he does minority issues.

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
56. Well, if we all made the same money as men, we could go out and buy guns to protect
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:34 PM
Aug 2015

ourselves from abusive significant others who kill nearly 3 of us every single day.

That's how econ justice works for women who are in abusive relationship, doncha know!?

Two birds with one stone, protect the 2A and give women equal pay.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
61. Too bad Hillary doesn't back a federal minimum wage of $15/hr then, eh?
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:39 PM
Aug 2015

O'Malley and Bernie know how many women that would lift out of poverty.

And as usual the Bernie's is a GNUZ NUTZ meme rears its ugly head to show just how serious some people are about women's issues.

When you can't discuss the issues, deploy the bat squirrel.

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
63. what?
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:41 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie is pro 2A. He will tell you that himself.

You know a lot of country boys who own guns for hunting to feed their families have been known to shoot their wife or girlfriend.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
65. So are the majority of Dems including Hillary and Obama.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:44 PM
Aug 2015

I suppose they're equally supportive of country boys shooting their wives and girlfriends?

boston bean

(36,223 posts)
66. Voting against the Brady bill and sheilding gun makers
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:45 PM
Aug 2015

puts Bernie in a class by himself in democratic circles, anyhow.

beam me up scottie

(57,349 posts)
67. But that's not what you said.
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:47 PM
Aug 2015

"Bernie is pro 2A. He will tell you that himself."

He's also pro-gun control.

Moving the goalposts again?

Besides Hillary supports the death penalty, that makes her the pro-death candidate.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
72. Partisanship?
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 09:11 PM
Aug 2015

I thought you claimed he was a democrat?

Can you not fathom there are legitimate reasons a person would not support Bernie. I think I've been pretty clear about my reasons. And none of them have to do with me not being liberal.

You know, you and me got ours. It's not me I'm worried about in this election. I'm worried about people that need viable, passable solutions now.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
74. no. I've never claimed he was a dem. And I meant your devotion to hillary
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:20 PM
Aug 2015

Yes, mags,I've told you repeatedly that I can understand people not supporting Bernie. The reasons you give are based on false claims. And now,mags, we are well and truly done.

 

MaggieD

(7,393 posts)
75. As I have told you multiple times....
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 10:25 PM
Aug 2015

The fact that I call BS on BS claims about her does not equal "devotion" to her. There are several other actual Dem candidates I could support. But they aren't running. She is the best choice in scheme of available choices. IMO.

 

Armstead

(47,803 posts)
59. If he didnlt have an "unveuiling" you'd be saying....
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 08:36 PM
Aug 2015

"Where's his policy? He doesn't have one. he doesn't care about women."



BooScout

(10,406 posts)
73. I see he managed to cram Women's Issues under his Revolution umbrella...
Tue Aug 25, 2015, 09:17 PM
Aug 2015


<snip> "...not only are we going to expand policies that advance gender equality, we are going to vigorously defend the critical laws and programs which protect all working people in our country."

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