Amy Klobuchar defends Hillary Clinton amid email scandal

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Amy Klobuchar defends Hillary Clinton amid email scandal

By Rebecca Kaplan CBS

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/amy-klobuchar-defends-hillary-clinton-amid-email-scandal/

News August 24, 2015, 10:01 AM



Democrats are increasingly vocal about their concern that Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's campaign is suffering because of questions about her email, but she has a defender in Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar, a fellow Democrat.

"She's made it clear she has handed over the hard drive and 30,000-some emails and has been willing to go before a public hearing at Congress as well as debates," Klobuchar, who has already endorsed Clinton's 2016 bid, said Monday on "CBS This Morning." "I think there's going to be plenty of time to continue to discuss that, but key for me is really getting to the debate on real issues here with the economy, where our country is."


"A lot of us love the vice president. I'm obviously a supporter of Hillary Clinton. I think she has some great ideas, and being right close to Iowa I've seen her campaign and how well-run it's been and, you know, we go from there," she said. If Biden runs, "I think that there will just be one more strong candidate in the race."

Klobuchar is a proponent of women in politics and said she hopes there is a woman on the ticket for both parties. Not only can young girls see they can get those kinds of jobs, she said, but women get more done.
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[Bonobo]

1. Did she choose what emails to wipe or not?

If she did, wtf and where's the accountability?

And how do we know what she wiped?

Are those not reasonable questions?

[delrem]

2. No questions are reasonable!

You must be a Republican to suggest otherwise!

If you're a true Democrat then you don't ask questions about history, any part of history, and you don't ask questions about policy, any policy! Let me drill it into you once and for all: Hillary Clinton spent her life fighting for women, children, and the average American family. She's a steely eyed fighter for all that's decent in the world, and her enemies are evil. Now repeat that until you've got it!

[murielm99]

3. You need to keep up:

http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/state-department-confirms-hillary-clinton-email-violated-no-laws-or-policies/21851/

The State Department has confirmed that Hillary Clinton's emails violated no laws or policies.

This is overblown non-scandal is dying, as it should.

What will you do now? Benghazi, anyone?

[Bonobo]

4. Muriel, is that an answer to the question? nt

[murielm99]

5. If you can't read the link

and see that the investigation is being dropped, then don't bother to reply to me any more.

This was a non-scandal from the beginning.

[Bonobo]

6. I don't read blind links, but it seems pretty clear that you won't answer the question because she

DID wipe emails without supervision.

Whether that is pursued as a legal matter is not of primary interest to me since that fact alone is not something I am comfortable with.

Furthermore, you replied to me, so, ummm, you see how weird it is to tell ME not to reply?

[murielm99]

18. I don't communicate with closed minded people.

You won't read the links? Closed mind. Good-bye.

[FlatBaroque]

13. Maybe the State department should clue in the FBI

that it's no problem.

[murielm99]

17. If you read the articles on the non-scandal,

you will see that they are going to drop it.

I am sure it will be done quietly, the way Whitewater was. The information might show up on page 23 of some major newspaper.

[frylock]

16. You need to keep up? This was established weeks ago..

now the FBI is involved, and I don't think they give two shits about State's policy.

[Sancho]

8. Actually, someone probably knows what's on the "missing emails"!!

First, over 90% of the work emails were already captured when sent or received by .gov computers, so the ONLY email that's missing must have been SENT AND RECEIVED by a non-government computer (like the yoga studio).

Next, we KNOW that Google and McAfee BACKED-UP the entire server, so likely Hillary's lawyers and other government agencies have access to copies now. They just don't think there's anything there, and they also don't have legal reason to ask for the yoga schedule and wedding plans!! She is not required to produce those by FOIA or any other legal theory.

Finally, what evidence is there that ONE SINGLE email of 30,000 spams and condolences and cake recipes have EVER surfaced? Not one. With all those officials, staffers, copies, and computers - not ONE SINGLE yoga schedule or cake recipe? You'd think that SOMEONE would produce an email just for fun!!! If I was the wedding shop, I'd get the free advertisement and produce the missing cake recipe if I had it! It's so stupid that even the wedding shop and yoga studio didn't save emails from 5 or 10 years ago.

It's true that Hillary has a right to keep emails to her doctor or personal notes to friends about their kids or phone numbers of donors secret from the public. Remember when Jeb released thousand of emails with personal information? Is that good politics?
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-pn-jeb-bush-emails-and-ebook-20150210-story.html

It's entirely likely that Hillary has copies of the server if she wanted to produce it, but the State Dept. doesn't want it!!
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clintons-email-server-traced-to-home-based-service-ap/
In November 2012, without explanation, Clinton's private email account was reconfigured to use Google's servers as a backup in case her own personal email server failed, according to Internet records.
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Then, in July 2013, five months after she resigned as secretary of state, Clinton's private email server was reconfigured again to use a Denver-based commercial email provider, MX Logic, which is now owned by McAfee Inc., a top Internet security company.

Really, this CT has gone on long enough for even the craziest people - it's worse than birth certificates at this point.

https://www.hillaryclinton.com/p/briefing/factsheets/2015/07/13/email-facts/
http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/12/myths-and-facts-on-hillary-clintons-email-and-r/204913
http://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2015/08/14/ap-exclusive-top-secret-clinton-emails-include-drone-talk
http://mediamatters.org/research/2015/08/14/state-dept-shuts-down-foxs-anonymous-speculatio/204941
http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-politics/wp/2015/08/19/clinton-lawyer-no-undisclosed-e-mails-left-on-server-turned-over-to-fbi/
http://www.dailynewsbin.com/news/state-department-confirms-hillary-clinton-email-violated-no-laws-or-policies/21851/

[Bonobo]

9. Sancho... a public servant simply should NOT have even the potential to erase emails inappropriately

That is precisely why there are guidelines for such things.

It is as much about preserving Hillary from the appearance of misbehavior as it is about preserving the public's right to know about how their public servants are conducting their jobs.

[seabeyond]

10. It is as much about preserving Hillary from the appearance of misbehavior... bullshit

[Sancho]

11. so...you think that...

Public servants should reveal all of the following public and private:

email
text messages
videos (security and family fun)
search history on the internet
voice mail
travel logs
paper documents
faxes and fax records
visitor logs
???

Email is only one small way to communicate even though is seems to get a rise out of people for some reason. Disclosure laws are simply designed to provide a work record. Hillary has complied!!! She has provided more than any other public servant in history to date!!

What you want is silly. She complied with all guidelines and laws in place, and with new technology new guidelines will be produced, but no one should be able to tell the future and comply with something not yet foreseen!

Remember, we didn't even have email on your phone a decade ago!! Nor messages!! Nor digital phone cameras!! Nor body cams!!

Can you tell me the guidelines for 2020 now? Will all public servants have to wear body cams at all times?

Her personal stuff was reviewed by staff and lawyers (and likely is available now). No one wants it or cares. She does NOT want to pull a Jeb and reveal personal phone numbers, medical records, SS numbers, addresses, etc. and she does not have to and so she doesn't!!! It's pretty simple. It's also a security risk to reveal her travel schedule and habits.

The various government agencies have no interest in her personal stuff - and they have likely looked at it anyway. Hell, they can't even "agree" about what important in the pure government stuff!!! Why deal with making the yoga schedule "secret" or not? Why do background checks on the cake baker? It's simply an even bigger waste of time and money.

I repeat - on CNN this morning again - the IG has said AGAIN that Hillary did NOTHING outside of the guidelines and laws at the time, and she has revealed more than any other major politician ever! At this point, nothing will satisfy those who can't be satisfied. It's just like birth certificates all over again.

[Bonobo]

12. What I want is not silly.

What I want is public servants who are not given the opportunity to play fast and loose with information.

Whether that be Hillary or some future Republican SOS. Allowing an SOS to use their own staff and lawyers to review what emails are to be revealed and delivered is not appropriate and it is an invitation for abuse.

Period.

[Sancho]

15. Then you are saying that EVERYTHING is public!!!

Think about it! First, the biggest problem Hillary (and Obama and Bill Clinton) have is usually NOT the Chinese! It's the GOP operatives who leak stuff - and many of them are government staffers, FBI, NSA, or CIA!

Bush and Cheney kept EVERYTHING secret and deleted it all! All the other SoSs have revealed nothing. Hillary was constantly in the room with State Dept. staff, not to mention lawyers with top secret clearance. I doubt no communication on earth was reviewed more often.

Her plan worked well - she kept the repubs from leaking stuff. Now there's an imaginary scandal. I'll repeat - her server was backed up and then, for security reasons as it went into storage it was erased.

The White House and State Dept. right now could look at her personal emails on those copies (and likely have already). She said that the server was wiped. She never revealed what copies (on paper, thumb drives, etc.) were saved. In fact, it's likely that McAfee was involved because they are encryption specialists, and the backup are also likely encrypted.

Her lawyers said they turned over work related emails (again). They did not reveal, and they likely won't volunteer, that they also have personal emails. Maybe the FBI has looked at those too, but probably attorney-client privilege holds if they want to invoke it. At any rate, none of that personal stuff is subject to FOIA anyway.

Now, to the point. Why stop at email which is a drop in the bucket? To satisfy you, every public servant would have to be recorded in all media and all of it revealed to the public? Every minute of everyday. Otherwise, there's always a chance that someone communicated something that the public should know!! That's pretty unreasonable.

We're not in the days of Star Trek yet: "Computer, play back what happened a year ago.", but we're headed in that direction!

[tblue37]

7. I wish people would refer to it more accurately as the "email pseudo-scandal" or the "trumped up

email scandal," because the only "scandal" is the way the RW invents fake "scandals" to hang around Hillary's neck.

[FlatBaroque]

14. What you "wish" does not comport with the reality of the situation.

Poor victimized Hillary.

[stevenleser]

19. Actually it does. The state dept says no lawbreaking or policy breaking after completing their

Investigation. This manufactured scandal is over.

[morningfog]

20. You keep saying that. But watch. It will still be a live issue two and three months from now.