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cali

(114,904 posts)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:58 PM Aug 2015

How did Bernie Sanders become a target for Black Lives Matter?

When Bernie Sanders’ presidential campaign rolled into South Carolina this weekend, wooing black voters was perhaps the top task on his to-do list.

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“We don’t know him,” is the refrain of black voters in South Carolina, a Washington Post report suggests.

To those who are familiar with his political career, however, Sanders would seem to be the last person in the presidential race who would need to justify his civil rights credentials. After all, which other candidate would allow two Black Lives Matter activists to hijack a campaign event in Seattle while he stood placidly by, chatting with his wife?

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But among some who know more about Sanders, the genuineness of his long record carries weight.

“If I asked a Republican candidate about Black Lives Matter, they wouldn’t care,” Justin Sewell, a black college student who attended Sanders’s rally in South Carolina, told the Post. “If I asked Hillary, she’d just say what’s convenient,”

“I believe [Sanders] really cares.”

http://news.yahoo.com/did-bernie-sanders-become-target-black-lives-matter-173555218.html

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How did Bernie Sanders become a target for Black Lives Matter? (Original Post) cali Aug 2015 OP
Coincidence? elleng Aug 2015 #1
He could use the Hillary BLM strategy: bvar22 Aug 2015 #2
No, that was handling them masterfully!! jeff47 Aug 2015 #3
#BLM seems perfctly happy with this kind of treatment from Hillary. bvar22 Aug 2015 #7
Actually, Black Lives Matter was and is not happy with Hillary's response. They've been Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #13
Because Bernis is the only candidate demwing Aug 2015 #4
How? It was a meme going back to his announcement in Vermont mmonk Aug 2015 #5
Through his actions Sanders has shown that he really cares. That means something Vattel Aug 2015 #6
Don't think he is--he's just the most publicly accessible candidate eridani Aug 2015 #8
Bingo. NuclearDem Aug 2015 #9
The event that was disrupted in Seattle WAS. NOT. A. SANDERS. CAMPAIGN. EVENT!!! Zorra Aug 2015 #10
Yep. I have posted this irrefutable fact so many times. He was merely one of many speakers Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author uponit7771 Aug 2015 #11
Considering that any other candidate would be a more appropriate target... hay rick Aug 2015 #12
I suspect you are wrong. And Bernie, as he has done his entire career has stepped Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #16
Don't forget Occupy n/t eridani Aug 2015 #18
Never. Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #21
well, for OA: there's been far more cooperation with Sanders and no more noisy incidents MisterP Aug 2015 #15
Wait. What. Violent? That is a gross mischaracterization. Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #17
they shoved a Senator, nu? screamed his face out (I can rewrite since it's not central to my point) MisterP Aug 2015 #19
I 100% agree with you that shoving Bernie was disgusting and I consider it a violent act. Luminous Animal Aug 2015 #20
that's actually a good point, because it's such a FINE point MisterP Aug 2015 #23
Because he is catching Hillary AgingAmerican Aug 2015 #22
They're not targeting Bernie, they're targeting his AUDIENCE. scarletwoman Aug 2015 #24

elleng

(130,918 posts)
1. Coincidence?
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:16 PM
Aug 2015

The first 'event' occurred after the Iowa Dem's Dinner, in which all of the Dem candidates spoke (and incidentally Martin O'Malley did very well,) but immediately thereafter Netroots Nation occurred, O'Malley and Sanders were 'caught' in blm's first 'event,' and things have moved on since then.

'Democratic presidential candidate Martin O’Malley was midsentence when the chanting began. “What side are you on black people, what side are you on!” rang the chorus of around four dozen mostly black protesters streaming into a convention hall in Phoenix, Arizona, on Saturday.'

http://time.com/3963692/bernie-sanders-martin-omalley-black-lives-matter/

Due to Bernie's popularity, his 'targetting' has continued.

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
2. He could use the Hillary BLM strategy:
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:38 PM
Aug 2015

Refuse admission to the main venue, lock them in an "Overflow Room", and let them out after the main media leaves.

jeff47

(26,549 posts)
3. No, that was handling them masterfully!!
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:19 PM
Aug 2015

I read it right here on DU. Over and over and over again. Mostly in posts in one group....

bvar22

(39,909 posts)
7. #BLM seems perfctly happy with this kind of treatment from Hillary.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:45 PM
Aug 2015

There is something happening here.....

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
13. Actually, Black Lives Matter was and is not happy with Hillary's response. They've been
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:07 PM
Aug 2015

interviewed many times and have said as such. An OP today and presumably the person who posted the OP said that their criticism of her response does not matter.

 

demwing

(16,916 posts)
4. Because Bernis is the only candidate
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:25 PM
Aug 2015

that can actually DO something to further the goals of BLM.

The only candidate that draws the crowds, the only candidate that marched with MLK, and the only candidate that gives a damn.

It was a smart move for BLM to focus on Bernie and avoid Hillary. Why waste their time?

mmonk

(52,589 posts)
5. How? It was a meme going back to his announcement in Vermont
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:40 PM
Aug 2015

and two rightwing journalists saying he wouldn't be able to reach minority voters (due to the demographics in Vermont that day). Before long, everybody started picking that theme up. Obviously calling him too liberal or socialist wasn't working.

 

Vattel

(9,289 posts)
6. Through his actions Sanders has shown that he really cares. That means something
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:40 PM
Aug 2015

to people like Justin Sewell. If enough people in SC realize it in time, Sanders could win the primary there.

eridani

(51,907 posts)
8. Don't think he is--he's just the most publicly accessible candidate
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 09:54 PM
Aug 2015

Naturally that makes him an easier target. The idea of going after all the candidates is fine--it just isn't doable.

Zorra

(27,670 posts)
10. The event that was disrupted in Seattle WAS. NOT. A. SANDERS. CAMPAIGN. EVENT!!!
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:24 PM
Aug 2015


One more time ~ The event that activists in Seattle shut down on August 8, 2015 was not a Bernie Sanders event. It was an even sponsored by SOCIAL SECURITY WORKS. Senator Sanders was invited to speak at the event by Social Security Works. The event the activists shut down was a rally sponsored by Social Security Works and was organized to help protect Social Security and Medicare.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251522109

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
14. Yep. I have posted this irrefutable fact so many times. He was merely one of many speakers
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:20 PM
Aug 2015

invited for an hours long event which involved more than a half a year of planning. His entire allotted time was taken up by the protestors and why he left the stage. The time allotted to him had expired.

And I am not sure the activists shut anything down. Bernie could have been the last speaker of the day and the protestors may have taken up his entire allotted time and when that was up, the organizers, as per the limitations of the time limitation their permit cut the mic.

Response to cali (Original post)

hay rick

(7,619 posts)
12. Considering that any other candidate would be a more appropriate target...
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 10:39 PM
Aug 2015

I do not believe the people pushing these attacks are being honest about their agenda. I also do not think they are recognized by a significant portion of the black community as speaking on their behalf. I expect the majority of #BLM sympathizers are more concerned with the wanton murder of black men than the current field of presidential candidates and might even think attacking the candidate with the best credentials on racial justice is counterproductive.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
16. I suspect you are wrong. And Bernie, as he has done his entire career has stepped
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:39 PM
Aug 2015

up to the challenge.

The activists from Black Lives Matter are totally honest about their agenda and black human beings all across every demographic are reacting positively to the movement.

NEAR EVERY SINGLE BLACK PERSON IN THIS UNITED STATES OF AMERICA IS SICK AND TIRED OF HAVING A TARGET ON THEIR BACK.

It has reached a critical mass.

My only critique is thus: As an ACTION activist with Queer Nation, Lesbian Avengers, Cop Watch Oakland, ACT UP, Food not Bombs, and Women's Action Coalition, the only mistake that Black Lives Matter made is not engaging with any of the candidates prior to taking any action because their is so much to be learned during a face to face meeting that can set the course for future action.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
15. well, for OA: there's been far more cooperation with Sanders and no more noisy incidents
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 11:35 PM
Aug 2015

Last edited Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:11 AM - Edit history (1)

for any campaign

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
20. I 100% agree with you that shoving Bernie was disgusting and I consider it a violent act.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:05 AM
Aug 2015

It really is a moment that plays over and over in my mind because it is deeply disturbing to me. But I am taking the lead from the campaign itself to let it go.

MisterP

(23,730 posts)
23. that's actually a good point, because it's such a FINE point
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 03:51 PM
Aug 2015

it highlights the fine game this primary's requiring--between legitimate political self-defense and between "rising above"

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
24. They're not targeting Bernie, they're targeting his AUDIENCE.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 09:49 PM
Aug 2015

Bernie draws crowds of white people. You're part of Black Lives Matter and you want to get a message across to all those white people who don't generally have to worry about being shot by cops when they're driving or walking down the street. So you go where the crowds are.

It's not about Bernie. It's about raising hell in an attempt to raise the consciousness of all those white people who are safely inside their bubble of white privilege - disrupt, disturb, and transgress in order to demonstrate the urgency you feel about your brothers and sisters being killed because of the color of their skin.

It's not about Bernie! It's about his audience! They are throwing out a challenge - are you going to care about what's happening to black people, or not?

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