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elleng

(130,948 posts)
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:38 PM Aug 2015

Clinton insider slams Biden’s ‘track record’ of losing.

Longtime ​Clinton ​confidante ​James Carville says Vice President Joe Biden ​has a “track record” of losing.

“He’s done it twice, and he hasn’t had the best track record doing it,” James Carville said Sunday​ ​of Biden’s previous presidential runs, speaking on​ John Catsimatidis’​ AM 970​ radio show​.

http://nypost.com/2015/08/23/clinton-insider-slams-bidens-track-record-of-losing/

OH CRAP, Get that guy OUTTA HERE, NO MORE carbuncle!!!

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Clinton insider slams Biden’s ‘track record’ of losing. (Original Post) elleng Aug 2015 OP
you got to love the alacrity of her crew. cali Aug 2015 #1
That is just James being James. leftofcool Aug 2015 #2
just Team Hillary being Team Hillary, you mean. virtualobserver Aug 2015 #27
Either does Hillary. She's 0 for 1 in presidential nomination contests. askew Aug 2015 #39
Have Mouth, Will Surrogate. It's what he's paid to be HereSince1628 Aug 2015 #3
He is that and always has been. leftofcool Aug 2015 #5
And in 6-8 months the same can be said of Hillary. Motown_Johnny Aug 2015 #4
Well he is right bigdarryl Aug 2015 #6
James is usually right, it is how he says it that just ticks people off. leftofcool Aug 2015 #7
He was elected and re-elected to the Senate six times. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2015 #8
I think James is talking about the presidency. leftofcool Aug 2015 #11
which his candidate also lost. karynnj Aug 2015 #38
While mostly accurate and direct on his delivery, I'm more mystified by who he married! TheBlackAdder Aug 2015 #9
They have been married for years. leftofcool Aug 2015 #10
I don't think they care about anything but the money that being political brings them. LiberalArkie Aug 2015 #26
Hillary would never attack another democratic candidate... catnhatnh Aug 2015 #12
James did not attack Joe Biden. He stated a truth or did you not know. leftofcool Aug 2015 #16
So then it is certainly not an attack for me to say catnhatnh Aug 2015 #20
Except that Clinton has ran only once for President, not "every presidential campaign" leftofcool Aug 2015 #21
Then losing once does constitute every....N/T catnhatnh Aug 2015 #24
except she is in one now dsc Aug 2015 #34
Post removed Post removed Aug 2015 #35
Carville is tough. I think he should be Hillary's campaign NYCButterfinger Aug 2015 #13
...he said as he backs the candidate with a record of 0-1. frylock Aug 2015 #14
Hillary in 2008 was much closer in delegates to the winner than Biden, who has won ZERO ericson00 Aug 2015 #29
closer in delegates means jack crap.. frylock Aug 2015 #30
Um Kurska Aug 2015 #15
? leftofcool Aug 2015 #17
His pony in this show has a 0% rate of winning presidential primaries. EOM Kurska Aug 2015 #18
Like I said, it is James being James. leftofcool Aug 2015 #22
A shot across the bow of the DNC? Buns_of_Fire Aug 2015 #19
lol. That is damn funny. snagglepuss Aug 2015 #32
getting a little defensive there, dontcha think? magical thyme Aug 2015 #23
Is that fool still around? tularetom Aug 2015 #25
I don't think he ever blew a 25 point lead for the Presidential primary jfern Aug 2015 #28
How could he? He never had one. Metric System Aug 2015 #31
and Hillary's hounds are UN-LEASHED! DonCoquixote Aug 2015 #33
James Carville is a Fucking Traitor who is sleeping with the enemy John Poet Aug 2015 #36
obnoxious I guess he forgot that HRC also lost the nomination karynnj Aug 2015 #37

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
2. That is just James being James.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:40 PM
Aug 2015

And he is not wrong on this. Joe does not have a good track record. That doesn't mean Dems don't want him in the race though.

askew

(1,464 posts)
39. Either does Hillary. She's 0 for 1 in presidential nomination contests.
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 11:09 AM
Aug 2015

As for "James", the guy is scum as are most of the people the Clintons have surrounded themselves with. That says a lot about the Clintons IMO.

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)
3. Have Mouth, Will Surrogate. It's what he's paid to be
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:41 PM
Aug 2015

The Rajun Cajun is the meanest mouth for hire this side of Ft Smith.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
7. James is usually right, it is how he says it that just ticks people off.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:50 PM
Aug 2015

I, on the other hand, think he is a hoot!

TheBlackAdder

(28,205 posts)
9. While mostly accurate and direct on his delivery, I'm more mystified by who he married!
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:52 PM
Aug 2015

.

Conservative Pundit Mary Matalin.

He's explained it before, but still a mystery to me.

.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
10. They have been married for years.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:54 PM
Aug 2015

I think they compliment each other but I would love to be a fly on the wall in their home.

LiberalArkie

(15,716 posts)
26. I don't think they care about anything but the money that being political brings them.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:33 PM
Aug 2015

Their political "beliefs" if you can say they believe in anything probably amounts to nothing. As one Democratic and one Republican, I would imagine they would have stronger beliefs if one was a Arkansas Razorback and one a Texas Longhorn.

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
16. James did not attack Joe Biden. He stated a truth or did you not know.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:01 PM
Aug 2015

Joe Biden ran for president twice and lost both times.

catnhatnh

(8,976 posts)
20. So then it is certainly not an attack for me to say
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:08 PM
Aug 2015

that Clinton lost EVERY Presidential campaign she ran and never was elected even once to a position as high in government as Biden has been elected twice...

leftofcool

(19,460 posts)
21. Except that Clinton has ran only once for President, not "every presidential campaign"
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:29 PM
Aug 2015

I don't see your statement as an attack. I hope Joe Biden runs the good race. He is my second choice and will poll right up with Hillary. Will be a great race if he gets in.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
34. except she is in one now
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 06:18 PM
Aug 2015

and it isn't, last I checked over. So yes, to say she has lost every Presidential campaign she has been in is a lie, plain and simple.

Response to dsc (Reply #34)

 

NYCButterfinger

(755 posts)
13. Carville is tough. I think he should be Hillary's campaign
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:58 PM
Aug 2015

manager. You're right, this is James being James.

frylock

(34,825 posts)
14. ...he said as he backs the candidate with a record of 0-1.
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 02:59 PM
Aug 2015

and for the record, THIS is what bashing looks like right here, Team Clinton.

 

ericson00

(2,707 posts)
29. Hillary in 2008 was much closer in delegates to the winner than Biden, who has won ZERO
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 04:36 PM
Aug 2015

in either 1988 or 2008. I love the Ragin' Cajun.

Buns_of_Fire

(17,180 posts)
19. A shot across the bow of the DNC?
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:04 PM
Aug 2015

From: HRC
To: DNC
cc: DWS

Look, you assholes. I've spent a lot of time and money and called in a lot of favors to get this far again. If you think you're going to screw me over by floating this 'Biden' crap, I suggest you rethink that strategy. Remember, Bill and I are on first-name terms with the people who own your asses.

I look forward to our next meeting, and hope you have a wonderful day.

-HRC

tularetom

(23,664 posts)
25. Is that fool still around?
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 03:32 PM
Aug 2015

Im happy I cut the cable if he's going to start showing up on all the pundit shows as a Clinton surrogate.

Somebody needs to tell him that mouthy hillbilly act of his isn't all that cute anymore.

Maybe Jon Stewart could pay another visit to him, just to put him in his place.

DonCoquixote

(13,616 posts)
33. and Hillary's hounds are UN-LEASHED!
Sun Aug 23, 2015, 05:39 PM
Aug 2015

Really, I love how you ran over the fact he Won with Obama, but somehow I think Obama's success does not matter, considering you slammed him all the way.

The only silver lining of Joe running is that we will see Hillary's people slam Obama, which will lead to a rather embarrassing confrontation with BLM

 

John Poet

(2,510 posts)
36. James Carville is a Fucking Traitor who is sleeping with the enemy
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 12:53 AM
Aug 2015

and ought to be horse-whipped for turning traitor on Kerry in the 2004 election. After doing what he did, he can just keep his damned mouth off any future elections. Hell, he probably did it because he didn't want a Democratic incumbent in office in 2008--- for the sake of YOU KNOW WHO...



Did Carville Tip Bush Off to Kerry Strategy (Woodward)

By M.J. Rosenberg | bio
I just came across a troubling incident that Bob Woodward reports in his new book. Very troubling.


On page 344, Woodward describes the doings at the White House in the early morning hours of Wednesday, the day after the '04 election.

Apparently, Kerry had decided not to concede. There were 250,000 outstanding ballots in Ohio.

So Kerry decides to fight. In fact, he considers going to Ohio to camp out with his voters until there is a recount. This is the last thing the White House needs, especially after Florida 2000.

So what happened?

James Carville gets on the phone with his wife, Mary Matalin, who is at the White House with Bush.

"Carville told her he had some inside news. The Kerry campaign was going to challenge the provisional ballots in Ohio -- perhaps up to 250,000 of them. 'I don't agree with it, Carville said. I'm just telling you that's what they're talking about.'

"Matalin went to Cheney to report...You better tell the President Cheney told her."

Matalin does, advising Bush that "somebody in authority needed to get in touch with J. Kenneth Blackwell, the Republican Secretary of State in Ohio who would be in charge of any challenge to the provisional votes." An SOS goes out to Blackwell.

The rest is history.

Does something about this story stink to high heaven!

karynnj

(59,503 posts)
37. obnoxious I guess he forgot that HRC also lost the nomination
Mon Aug 24, 2015, 07:47 AM
Aug 2015

Many people lose before they win a later election.

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