When not a single member of Congress has endorsed you.....

[BooScout]

I would submit that it is you that is the problem and not those that refuse to endorse you.

Warning....angst and teeth gnashing ahead.

[HerbChestnut]

1. I don't think it's that big of a deal.

Everybody knows that Clinton was (was) far away the front runner when the campaigns began and has heavy political sway over the party. Couple that with the fact that Bernie is an Independent, not technically a Democrat, and it's pretty easy to see why the Democratic members of congress would gravitate toward Clinton.

[GitRDun]

76. I think you have it right

I don't think it says anything about anyone personally, it shows how the political system works.

There is a tremendous amount of money and influence that surrounds the Clintons. Hillary is the favorite, but the sheer magnitude of Bill and his foundation in terms of money, connections etc. is very attractive.

Contrast that with Bernie Sanders, a nice old guy from Vermont who really isn;t all that connected.....follow the money.

[earthside]

2. When you are the top choice of the oligarchy ...

I would submit that it is you that have become an oligarch.

Warning....denial, angst and teeth gnashing ahead.

[cantbeserious]

9. Yes - Hillary Is A Member Of The 1% - She Would Be No Better Than Any Other Corporate Candidate

Just slightly different around the edges that do not matter to the Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks.

[Thinkingabout]

56. So if you work hard and play by the rules and are able to write books and make lots of money would

it make you a bad person?

[Joe Turner]

61. If you are referring to Hillary

Play by the Rules would certainly not apply.

[Fawke Em]

78. THIS!! +100000

[Gothmog]

3. How will Sanders get anything done if elected?

[djean111]

11. re you really suggesting that the DEMOCRATS won't work with him? Wow!

And I would like to point out that the GOP is going spend a lot of their time "investigating" Benghazi and email-gate, waste of time that those things are. Or, are you suggesting that the GOP is going to stop hating Hillary? Oh my! such fun this morning!

[eridani]

33. He won't--not without a political revolution. He says so himself.

Which may happen--he appeals to the 63%.

[Gothmog]

97. Do you really think that Sanders has coat tails or could help win down ballot races?

I can tell you that we in Texas are terrified of the effect that Sanders would have on down ballot races. The term socialist does not play well here.

[eridani]

98. Yes, because he is getting alienated voters involved.

Clinton doesn't have a snowball's chance in hell with the 63%.

Socialism is losing power as a snarl word, and has been for some time. But I do think the campaign should be doing some reframing, talking about public goods instead of Norway and Sweden.

Public goods by definition are straight out of Karl Marx. The more your property is worth, the higher the property taxes you pay to support the fire department. (From each according to his ability.) But they don't send a truck out unless you have a fire. (To each according to his means.) The difference between Democrats and Republicans is that they think public goods should be restricted to the white and/or the wealthy, and we think they should be for everyone.

[Gothmog]

108. My county party chair was attacked for merely attending a Sanders rally and was called a socialist

See http://www.democraticunderground.com/107827740 Sanders would be a drag on down ballot races in most states where the word socialist and socialism are not accepted. I know that there are some in my state party who are terrified of the effect that Sanders would have on down ballot races

[eridani]

110. Then it's about fucking time that Dems in Texas started to defend PUBLIC GOODS!

Obama is called a "socialist." And Clinton will be too if she gets the nomination. Deal with it.

[jeff47]

66. Well, he's gotten more things passed through this Congress than anyone else

You know, the Republican, do-nothing Congress we currently have?

Sanders has been attaching amendments to a lot of pills and getting them passed.

Clearly a guy who can get Republicans to pass things could never possibly get things passed by Democrats.

[Fawke Em]

79. Do you have a link for that info?

I'd love to pass that around!

That's golden!

[jeff47]

86. Not in a convenient, message-board-ready format.

(Hint to Sanders team: Get on that)

[Fawke Em]

88. Oh - I can do that if you have the link.

I've been known to start a few memes on Twitter.

[jeff47]

93. Basically, a news article referenced Congress.gov

https://www.congress.gov/member/bernard-sanders/S000033?q=%7B%22congress%22%3A%22114%22%7D

Which has all the information on everything Sanders has sponsored or co-sponsored, and whether or not it passed. Unfortunately, the news article just breezed right by any real statistics, so it isn't at all useful.

[Fawke Em]

109. It's a start. Thanks.

[Gothmog]

83. Do you have links to this these amendments?

[jeff47]

85. Congress.gov isn't hard to find.

https://www.congress.gov/member/bernard-sanders/S000033?q=%7B%22congress%22%3A%22114%22%7D

[jfern]

90. He sponsored a major Veterans bill passed last year

And got it through a Republican House.

[Doctor_J]

91. how will Hillary?

[ibegurpard]

4. endorsements will come

If and when it becomes clear that a "betrayal" of Hillary will not come with danger of political payback from her.

[HerbChestnut]

10. I think Sanders will only get endorsements...

Once he officially seals the nomination. The fact of the matter is that Democratic members of congress have everything to lose by endorsing Sanders over Clinton at the moment. Do you think that Bernie cares whether he gets endorsed or not? No way. But you can bet that if Clinton gets nominated and a member of Congress didn't endorse her there will likely be some kind of consequences for that member.

[ibegurpard]

17. precisely

Political bravery is not a typical politician trait.

[libdem4life]

25. I think they are creating the Biden option to press the issues with Warren along

for the Progressives, at least first.

[cantbeserious]

5. Not The Right Question To Ask

Bernie's Policies De-legitimize The Basis Of Power That His Colleagues Rely Upon For Their Status.

HRCs policies do otherwise.

What does that say about HRC And Maintaining The Status Quo?

Ultimately, No One Is Brave Enough To Bite The Hand That Feeds.

What Does That Say About America?

[DeeDeeNY]

45. +1

Your first line says it all.

[azmom]

87. It says we only have an illusion of democracy.

[djean111]

6. I think the angst and teeth-gnashing are actually from those who are expecting that stuff like this

makes any difference at all to Bernie supporters. Really, you expect supporters to switch because of endorsements? Bwahahaha!

I think endorsements are nice. Some are politically driven, and not a statement against another candidate per se.
Sorry, no angst and teeth gnashing here, just a happy certainty that I personally am supporting Bernie because of deeds, records, and issues, and not because of endorsements. What seems like a problem to YOU is not a problem for others, hard as that evidently is to understand.

[Bonobo]

7. ...a badge of honor considering the mutual back-washing and general sleaze inherent among them. nt

[cherokeeprogressive]

70. Yep. A body whose approval rates in the low teens AT BEST. Who cares who they endorse? n/t

[cali]

8. lol. I submit it his much more to do with the dominant role

of the Clintons in the party, the fact that the party establishment has been lining up behind Hillary for years, that Bernie is both a (democratic) socialist and an independent, a reluctance to land on hillary's famous hit list, and a desire to win.

[djean111]

14. Months ago, a Hillary supporter here said that OF COURSE Warren would be endorsing Hillary -

because Warren is a Democrat, and had better endorse Hillary.

Which rather neatly, if unintended, sums up the importance of endorsements from Congress.
I cannot imagine switching support from any candidate to any other candidate because of endorsements.
Not even if Warren dutifully endorses Hillary.

Oh, and the GOP are not going to stop investigating Benghazi and email-gate. Those are, IMO, stupid things, but to think that the party in power in Congress wants to work with Hillary is really delusional.

[SonderWoman]

12. Hillary will be able to form loyal alliances and coalitions.

[RichVRichV]

104. Because Republicans are known for coalitions and compromise.

And Bernie supporters are the ones looking for rainbows and unicorns.

[Autumn]

13. Strangely enough, I don't have a problem with that at all.

[Puglover]

15. Nor I.

The OP predicted gnashing of teeth. Just a bit of eye strain here from the involuntary roll that they took when I read the OP.

Hey you.

[Autumn]

74. Hey you.

[beam me up scottie]

16. But that's not the reaction they were hoping for!

Shame on you for disappointing the op!

[Autumn]

94. I'm sorry. I tried to gnash my teeth and wail but then realized I don't give a fuck

not even a flying fuck who Congress endorses. They just don't impress me at all. I would value the endorsement of a crack addicted lady of the evening standing on a street corner earning an honest living more than theirs.

[beam me up scottie]

96. Well that's because that lady deserves respect.

Selling your body isn't immoral, selling out your constituents is.

The real whores wear expensive clothes and commute to DC.

[L0oniX]

52. Like we are supposted to be suprised that the 1% won't endorse Bernie.

[global1]

18. Your OP Is Going To Look Awfully Silly When Bernie Wins The Nomination And All...

the Dems in Congress endorse him.

[leftofcool]

21. They obviously do not. Almost all have endorsed Hillary and that includes the Progressive caucus.

[onehandle]

23. Bookmarked...

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[striegl]

39. She didn't win in 2008

Hillary had over two times more endorsements than Barack, yet she didn't win the nomination. What's your point about endorsements? That they don't determine who gets nominated for President?

Endorsements are nice but they don't actually vote in the primaries.

[onehandle]

48. There is no Obama.

'Simply put, Clinton has more support from Democratic primary voters this summer than she did in 2007. Moreover, no one in her polling position has lost a primary in the modern era.'

http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/bernie-sanders-youre-no-barack-obama

[George II]

47. I knew she was ahead of where she was in 2007, but those numbers are amazing!

Still 60+ % in the important states of Florida, Ohio, Illinois.

Seems that when it comes to endorsements, Sanders has flat-lined.

[Agschmid]

19. Unrec.

[beam me up scottie]

20. Couldn't find any decent hit pieces today so you went with diy flamebait?

Better luck next time, practice makes perfect they say.

[neverforget]

29. I wish I could recommend your post.

[beam me up scottie]

34. Aw thanks!

neverforget ---

[fredamae]

22. It demonstrates their political

weakness...and reveals a huge part of the problem(s) with Dems in DC.
They are political cowards- imo -because Campaign Money is at risk IF they should be so bold as to step out of their "proper place" and endorse anyone But the establishment candidate.

But, that's just my opinion.

[NorthCarolina]

24. Endorsements by politicians mean squat to me. I'm capable of making my own choice.

I can't tell you who in Congress "endorsed" Obama when he was running, or which ones have "endorsed" Clinton this go round...because quite frankly..I don't really care.

[Mnpaul]

60. I don't get it either

I'm not going to vote for someone on the basis of an endorsement. I'm perfectly able to make this decision on my own.

[NorthCarolina]

62. Well, basically what they are saying

is it doesn't matter who you support, if you don't support the establishment candidate that is, because the fact of the matter is that political endorsements equals "delegates" at the convention, and those delegates are truly what matters; not public preference. Small 'd' democracy.

[onehandle]

26. Yeah, but you're talking about Democrats.

The 'Not Hillary' Party is more of a... What do you call it?...

Ah, yes.

A 'Third Way.'

[leftofcool]

30. Ouch!

Good one.

[BooScout]

43. Sounds like someone obsessed with porn made that one up...

[corkhead]

27. Bernie's not the choice of the status quo. What a surprise.

[corkhead]

58. Apparently if you are not allowed to post you can still send annoying PMs

[MoveIt]

63. ugh alert that trolling

[jeff47]

67. Time to click that "Alert Abuse" link. (nt)

[cherokeeprogressive]

71. LOL she's shat in my Inbox as well n/t

[SoapBox]

89. OMG

That is the person that was sending me PMs about a week ago...I was shocked.

I Blocked and Alerted...don't tell me that they aren't gone?!?!

Total harassment.

[sibelian]

101. THAT one again.

Just block/ignore. It's stalking.

[Fawke Em]

77. Nor the choice of the Congressional elite.

That he hasn't been endorsed by many in that lot makes me like him more.

[Gman]

28. Since a great many millions rely on their jobs at corporations

to put food on the table and a roof over their heads, a pro-business candidate is the best candidate. The issue then becomes corporate responsibility and labor protections. Hillary can take care of both of those and do it well.

Bernie has pretty much peaked anyway. He won't be much of a factor in the grand scheme of things. It worked out very well in the 90's.

[MoveIt]

31. What stage is "And then they sneer at you?" n/t

[DrBulldog]

32. The real leader, the real creator, the real innovator, the real builder, the real solution-finder

is nearly always - at first - in the EXTREME MINORITY. History has taught us that.

[SheilaT]

35. I have never been swayed by endorsements.

Perhaps endorsements matter to low information voters, but not to this one.

[leftofcool]

36. They matter at the Convention. Super Delegates, ya know.

I bet you forgot about that.

[Cleita]

37. If you are referring to Bernie, it means that he

is truly outside the corruption that is present day Washington. While the rest of them are playing power politics among themselves, Bernie is reaching out to the people with his message. The power of the people is the only endorsement he needs.

[HERVEPA]

38. Congrats on almost identical post # 12,4222

[rock]

41. Remarkable: 124,222 is approximately the many times the post

"Clinton voted for Iraq War" has been posted on DU!

[HERVEPA]

46. Nope. That's hardly ever an OP headline.

But it is contained in at least 34,321 other posts. But please, tell me again, why would anyone have voted for that war when we all knew the info being given out was fake.

[beam me up scottie]

49. *crickets*

You would think they'd know better than to bring that up.

[rock]

51. Cite them

[John Poet]

40. Congress has an approval rating lower than Satan's....

so it would seem that getting their endorsements might not necessarily help anyone.

[leftofcool]

44. Sine many will be super delegates at the convention, it really does matter.

[TBF]

42. Having the support of millions of Americans

who are not bought & paid for is more important than the paid representatives. Or at least it should be. We shall see.

[L0oniX]

50. ~

[whatchamacallit]

53. Badge of Honor IMO

[-none]

54. Evidence that some of those endorsers should be primaried.

We need many more people in Congress with the people in mind.

[Vinca]

55. Bernie is not a traditional politician like 99% of those in Congress.

He will not line up and do tricks on command for donations and play lap dog to a party line that is promoting the "presumed" candidate. That's why I support him. If the votes come in and he's beating Hillary, her endorsements will jump ship as fast as they jumped on.

[NorthCarolina]

57. I suppose if Cronyism is part of your political litmus test

it might be important to you. For me personally, political endorsements by other politicians means squat because cronyism doesn't necessarily legitimize a candidacy. I do believe that avoidance of the discussion of issues by placing importance on the non-important is par for the course for establishment candidates. I have seen the reference to political endorsements translate to delegates, however this validates precisely Sanders words on the degradation of our democracy; wherein public opinion be damned because the oligarchy owns the delegates, and factually THEY are the only ones that matter; Diebold can handle the rest.

[Thinkingabout]

59. Excuses does not erase the fact Bernie has not gotten any endorsements, having worked with others

in my lifetime, I knew the importance in teamwork. In Congress it most important you work with others, this is how bills are passed, you can sponsor all the bills and if you do not have teamwork those bills will not get passed. You have to work across lines and talk with others to even get the message out you want a bill passed and why it is important, WTH happened.

[TheBlackAdder]

64. ZOMG! These crappy OPs need to stop! That 'Warning' is passive aggressive BTW!

.


Just another OP that's sole purpose is to poke a stick in other people's cages. Nothing more!


.

[cherokeeprogressive]

68. LOL... when a body that ranks in the low teens AT BEST when it comes to approval ratings...

Angst about which of them endorse you is completely misplaced.

[jeff47]

69. There are several diseases with higher approval ratings than Congress.

I'm not sure running on "Congress likes me" is a terribly smart strategy.

[Daniel537]

72. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiight

Because when people look for leadership and courage, they look towards the US congress.

[2pooped2pop]

73. dems will support dems or lose backing

Sanders is an independent. Actually with most of the people in congress, if they did support Sanders, I would lose a little respect for Sanders because he is not like the others.

[senz]

75. Ding ding ding! We have a new meme! Last one didn't work out so good.

Hey, when all else fails, you can talk about his funny hair or his beloved out-of-wedlock son.

[ericson00]

80. but itsssss the CORPORATIONS!!!

n/t

[Rosa Luxemburg]

81. Hillary was endorsed in 2008 election but didn't win

[leftofcool]

82. Obama got a few more thus more super delegates at the convention.

[frylock]

84. those endorsements should really influence a lot independants, first-time, and disaffected voters..

especially with congressional approval ratings being through the roof.

[azurnoir]

92. when that same Congress consistently has a <20% approval rating among voters perhaps

lack of their 'endorsement' isn't such a bad thing afterall

[leftofcool]

99. Actually it is, It has to do with super delegates.

[azurnoir]

111. so you're saying the rank and file do not matter it's the party 'officials' who are the in control

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of the choice of candidate?

[hrmjustin]

95. I wouod have thought he would have at least one by now.

He probably will get some but it is interesting he didn't get one.

[HappyPlace]

103. He's got mine!

HappyPlace heartily endorses Senator Bernie Sanders!

Yes, I do!

[freshwest]

105. He got Jesse Ventura's endorsement. He and Alex Jones are best buds, but AJ wants Cruz as POTUS.

Also fully in favor of Rand's national and state by state personhood laws. So we'll see how this shakes out. AJ is on the SPLC list, too.

[hrmjustin]

106. Oh good God!

Ventura is a truther as well i think.

[freshwest]

107. Yes, but he was a GOVERNOR. That's gotta count for something. Maybe Jesse's just catching a ride.

Yes, Jesse's definitely a Truther, but I haven't heard anything about Sanders on that issue. I don't think he's ever gone in for the False Flag stuff, really.

I don't know how many of BS's supporters are in that group. I believe they've suffered from a Libertarian infiltration like Occupy did and they don't know what to do with them. AJ called for Libertarians and Ron Paul supporters to get into Occupy because he said they were getting with the anti-capitalist folks.

Their philosophy also does not work with BS's AFAIK, even though he is clearly not a pure socialist at all. He is willing to push MIC programs which benefit capitalists and gives jobs. So the fact that a lot of socialists have endorsed him may not be what some people expect. IDK if he sought endorsements from any of these folks.

[BooScout]

112. LOL.....that's something to brag about for sure!

[sibelian]

100. No, it's not *Congress* that the president is supposed to serve

It's the POPULACE. The LAND and it's PEOPLE.

[thereismore]

102. ...then you are not an establishment candidate. nt