I'm starting to be surprised over the Clinton email thing.

[mmonk]

I really didn't think it would exact any kind of toll on her campaign but the numbers nationally keep moving where the clown car on the other side is being considered by way too many people in this country. I also know the Party heads will mostly likely not get behind our other candidates. Even as a supporter of another campaign, it's starting to bother me, especially given the unpredictable dynamics right now. Any thoughts looking ahead to the upcoming month?

[Sunlei]

1. I think 'USA media' will have Mrs. Clinton down to single % in polls in less then 6 months.

And then they'll start on Senator Sanders 40 years of 'work' letters and 'work' emails, and destroy him through media too.

[TheBlackAdder]

35. Play the long game. This is shiny tin foil that keeps media and Republicans distracted!

.



They will look at whatever excuse they can go after Clinton for. Fighting it at this stage does nothing.

The election is a long time away, and it's best to let them run down a debunked rabbit hole, then move on to other issues that will require more research and fighting in the future.



However, as a Clinton supporter who is leaning Sanders now, her support for TPP and KXL changed a lot of people.

But, the thing that really pissed off my family was her response to KXL, that we'll find out after she's in office!


That was extremely destructive to her campaign. If her campaign does not see how she came off as a negativism, then it is doomed.


.

[SonderWoman]

2. You didn't think being attacked 24/7 by the right and the left media would take its toll?

Meanwhile, she endures.

[mmonk]

3. What left media?

[BooScout]

5. The NYTS springs to mind....

You know the one that reported all those lies about her a couple of weeks ago?....and has been going after her for decades.

[mmonk]

8. Yeah, that's the only one that comes close I suppose.

I'm just used to the broadcast spectrum and also media consolidation.

[Warren Stupidity]

9. The NYT is to the left of Fox News and the New York Post.

However it is politically center-right.

[cascadiance]

33. Judith Miller probably hates being called a liberal too!

[Autumn]

4. It's not surprising. Many of us knew the media and the GOP would be attacking her

24/7 over her e mail actions and anything else they can find. That's what they do, she should have known that. She lived it during her White House years. The question is how much will the people endure before they become fatigued with having to defend her for her actions?

[kenn3d]

23. Right/Left Media Conspiracy?

I see almost no media defending Hillary's candidacy generally, much less any media salvation from her email albatross.
But this "opinion/commentary" from Monica Crowley in the Washington Times puts a new slant on the story that I'd not seen elsewhere.

The president craves a successor who will preserve his legacy
There is only one person who controls Hillary Clinton’s fate, and it isn’t Hillary Clinton.

Mrs. Clinton is careening toward possible criminal charges involving her alleged mishandling of classified material on her personal email server while she was secretary of State. And President Obama is driving the bus.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/aug/19/monica-crowley-why-obama-is-trying-to-torpedo-hill/

I'm not promoting this take on the HRC email situation, and I'm generally not happy about media feeding frenzy to destroy any political candidate, but I'd be interested to hear other DUers reaction to this story.

[Metric System]

25. Really? Linking to a conservative writer in a conservative newspaper?

[Tommy2Tone]

28. I agree

Huff Post has put up one anti-Hillary post after another and Salon has not exactly been a friend.

[kenn3d]

36. A great multi-wing conspiracy?

Yes. Right or Left, Conservative or Liberal, Mainstream or Fringe... Hillary just isn't getting much defense in the media now, period.
This seems to be true in print, broadcast, and online, all pretty much alike.

I'm an independent voter (strongly leaning progressive) who tries to choose by candidate rather than party affiliation. And my news feed dredges up my inquiry keywords without filtering sources by bias along the political spectrum. There most certainly is bias to be found in nearly all the media news and opinion I read. But while some pieces specifically favor a candidate or party, and some sources tend strongly to the left or right, almost nobody seems to be promoting Hillary now.

And I am still genuinely interested to know if President Obama is intentionally influencing her candidacy in any way.

[MuseRider]

6. It would be nice

to have debates to talk about.

[mmonk]

12. Agreed. With so little there, nothing will be cleared up in any manner.

[RKP5637]

15. Agree so much. The republicans are framing the discussion and democrats will again

have to play catch up which often happens.

[TheBlackAdder]

32. The first Dem debate will be after the second Republican one. Let them air their laundry first! nt

[DanTex]

7. The MSM, the far left, and the far right are attacking her in unison.

So yeah, that takes a bit of a toll in polls, but she's still way ahead in the primary and polling well for the GE.

None of this is really a surprise (except maybe the fact that the far left has embraced the MSM's faux-scandal-chasing). Like Nate Silver said, some kind of phony scandal was to be expected, and was already "priced in" to Hillary's status as favorite. It's got nothing to do with the substance of the email thing, because there is no substance.

[mmonk]

10. The far left really doen't exist much in this country. To me, it's more of a talking point.

[RKP5637]

17. To me, the far left went away in the 60's. And today, if any, are silenced by MSM unless some

act is committed by whomever and MSM wants to use whomever they think is the far left as a scapegoat.

[Purveyor]

11. Not having debates is taking it's toll. The only thing being talked about on DEM side are the

clinton emails, not DEM policies/positions.

A clusterfuck that can only be attributed to the DNC.

[mmonk]

13. I think you are right. No way to change the conversation.

[cyberswede]

16. Yep - I agree. nt

[RKP5637]

18. Definitely! That's what I was trying to point out in this post. There is a

serious error being made IMO. The republicans are yet again controlling the messaging.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251539636

[cherokeeprogressive]

34. ^THIS^ especially the last paragraph. n/t

[HappyPlace]

14. The inconvenience of inevitability....

Were we to have had a normal healthy dignified start to the season instead of this idiotic "superstar" start, we might have "had a conversation" instead of having the consummate insider shoved down our throats without so much as a chance to look at other choices.

Bernie.

Now.

[packman]

19. Drip - drip - drip

Sorry to say I do believe there is something to the e-mail thing. Eventually, this is going to hurt her and I am angry about that because - as much as I like Bernie - I really would have like to have seen a woman in the White House.

[MBS]

22. My feelings, too. n/t

[JayhawkSD]

20. The "email controversy" is an interesting conversation

It's sort of like someone is driving without a license and is arressted for speeding and driving without a license. The argument revolves around how fast he was going, some claiming that he was not even speeding, and no one cares that he was driving without a license.

The private server is an issue all by itself, whether anything on it was classified or not, and it was poor judgement for her to use it even if it was technically legal for her to do so. Doing so exposed her to the risk of exactly what is happening, and she had been in politics long enough to know that. She thought she was above the "rules" that govern the actions of lesser beings, and that is not an attitude we want in our president.

[artislife]

21. This

Because driving without a license was just dumb. This whole thing comes down to a dumb move and she is the one who made it.

[Metric System]

24. Nate Silver doesn't think general election polls mean that much this far out.

[mmonk]

26. Neither do I. But there is nothing humanly decent on the other side.

[Metric System]

27. They're all going to try to out-Trump each other in a race to the bottom of despicability.

[Erich Bloodaxe BSN]

29. Just another reason to stay with a better choice for the Dem nominee. nt

[fredamae]

30. When and IF any credible

evidence of wrong doing emerges from Anywhere Except MSM...then maybe there is a "there-there"...otherwise, I do wish everyone would wise up to the MSM BS for Entertainment Theater tactics.
just my vho.

[mmonk]

31. The general public does not seem very wise IMO.

Then we all pay.

[seabeyond]

37. we have a lot in a "revolution" pushing it too. constantly. non stop. as they ask for

democratic support from the democratic party's base.

the ironic.

[TheKentuckian]

38. I'm not asking for anything, I offer you the same as I've been force fed for years

Who else you gonna vote for.

Time to eat your peas.

[seabeyond]

39. at this point omalley. after that? whoever wins the primary.