TPM: New evidence Mitt didn't leave Bain in 1999, courtesy Mitt's SEC filings.

[bleever]

Oy, this is what passes for business sense these days? Publicly contradicting your sworn declarations to the SEC?

...I’ve found yet more instances where Romney made declarations to the SEC that he was still involved in running Bain after February 1999. To the best of my knowledge, no one has yet noted these.

The documents go into different aspects of Romney’s ownership of various Bain and Bain related assets. But in both Romney had to say what he currently did for a living.

Here are two SEC filings from July 2000 and February 2001 in which Romney lists his “principal occupation” as “Managing Director of Bain Capital, Inc.”

Romney’s argument is that it doesn’t matter what he said on these SEC filings. Even though he said he was running Bain, he really wasn’t. He was really running the Olympics and didn’t have any role at Bain. But absent any evidence, how is it that anyone can be expected to disregard what Mitt actually told the SEC at the time?

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/07/no_romney_didnt_leave_bain_in_1999.php


To quote Richard Pryor, "Who're you gonna believe? Me, or your lying eyes?"

[emulatorloo]

1. Excellent. Was pretty sure he was lying about when he left Bain.

Rec for the Greatest Page.

[elleng]

2. THESE!

&feature=related

[pnwmom]

3. Lying in sworn documents is perjury. How does he explain that?

[emulatorloo]

4. Factcheck.org really needs to do a correction.

And in a really public way.

I have seen lots of lying politicians, but Romney takes it to a whole new level.

[truebrit71]

14. No shit they do. Stephanopolous on GMA this morning was quoting them as gospel...

...stupid grinning little right-wing toady fuckwit that he is..

[progressivebydesign]

17. What has happened to Stephanopolous? Coordinated a Congr.l campaign event on his behalf in the 90s.

.. and he was SO passionate about Democrats, and so full of ideals. Does money do that to a person?? Shame.

[JDPriestly]

12. Lying to the SEC might be worse than perjury.

It might be a pretty serious misrepresentation -- fraud. Might depend on what the lie was about -- whether it was material, that is, really important and something that someone might base a decision on, or just something trivial.

This could be serious. Could be just another proof of sloppy dishonesty on Romney's part.

[madashelltoo]

5. Robme doesn't explain lies,

he's wealthy and privileged. He dismisses them. Fucker!

[Gothmog]

6. Romney is either guilty of securities fraud or he is lying about his role at Bain

Schedule 13ds are filed under oath and there are criminal penalties for making false statements in these documents. Romney is going to have a hard time explaining these documents

[Baitball Blogger]

7. This could be a little bit important.

[yodermon]

8. Pulitzer for Josh Marshall n/t

[myrna minx]

9. K&R - Wow! n/t

[JDPriestly]

10. So, did Romney work at Bain, or did he file fraudulent statements to the SEC

(and is that an offense of some sort???) or is there some other explanation?

Romney needs to discuss this with us. Did he lie on his SEC forms or is he lying now?

[bleever]

11. Anyone want to do some further perusal of other relevant SEC docs?

http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1093779/000089843001000644/0000898430-01-000644.txt

Courtesy Lee Fang, @lhfang

[eaglesfanintn]

13. So...

the 1% work harder than the rest of us. That's the reason they're CEO's and Board Chairman and so on. Yet, while still CEO, he was too busy working on the Olympics to actually run the company. So, he got something for nothing. Sounds like Socialism!

[MADem]

15. So--he's not lying to SEC, and he's lying to We, The People? Is that it? nt

[shanen]

16. Where are the weapons?

Again, I'm trying to mine this thread for ideas for ads that can be used as weapons against Romney (for the thread below).

However, I feel like the underlying theme of this thread is lies, and the problem with 'weaponizing' the topic of lies is the complexity. Romney's money is mostly a Class 2 lie of partial truths, and this is intrinsically complicated. Romney's fundamental position is "not a dollar more" and he is just trusting the lawyers and accountants to tell him what the bottom dollar is. Therefore Romney's claim is that it isn't his fault, because it's just so complicated.

Which slogan is the real Romney?

"Vote for me so that government of the corporations, by the lawyers, for the richest 0.1% of Americans, shall rule the earth."

"Vote for me so that government of the accountants, by the lawyers, for the richest 0.1% of Americans, shall rule the earth."

The thread on weaponizing ads:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=37926

[progressivebydesign]

18. Makes you wonder what sort of under the table deal was going on with the Olympics?

Maybe there is more to this than just lying on the SEC papers... perhaps it's something even more intriguing involving Bain and the Olympics. Has anyone done a thorough accounting of the money that flowed thru the Olympics and the sponsors involved?

[MADem]

19. RMoney got a homesteader's exemption on his Utah property taxes when he

was doing that Olympic thing. At the same time, he was filing papers as a MA resident to run for governor.

All he does is LIE.

He got trapped into paying full fare on his Utah property taxes, like anyone does who has a "vacation home" away from their state of so-called residence. I doubt he would have repaid if he hadn't been caught.

He's a sleaze. A cheat. A liar.

[DeSwiss]

20. K&R!!!

- And an extra for the Richard Pryor quote!!!!

[SnakeEyes]

21. Knowing about SEC filings

He may in fact not be lying to anyone. SEC filings can often pertain to past company actions. If so, Romney would need to be listed along with his title at the time.

[bleever]

22. Mitt's Funny Valentine to his 2012 candidacy:

(Emphasis added.)


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Proc-Type: 2001,MIC-CLEAR
Originator-Name: [e-mail]
Originator-Key-Asymmetric:
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TWSM7vrzLADbmYQaionwg5sDW3P6oaM5D3tdezXMm7z1T+B+twIDAQAB
MIC-Info: RSA-MD5,RSA,
NtgiikMmsR/W6FqoAtoI9k1pG1gqLygJn3gvNBAYUUCK/ar43nS3CcJlj7LwTJOs
NDHoRoqEgUkJctTi7zMaKQ==

<SEC-DOCUMENT>0000898430-01-000644.txt : 20010223
<SEC-HEADER>0000898430-01-000644.hdr.sgml : 20010223
ACCESSION NUMBER: 0000898430-01-000644
CONFORMED SUBMISSION TYPE: SC 13G
PUBLIC DOCUMENT COUNT: 1
FILED AS OF DATE: 20010214
GROUP MEMBERS: BAIN CAPITAL FUND VI LP
GROUP MEMBERS: BAIN CAPITAL INC
GROUP MEMBERS: BAIN CAPITAL INVESTORS VI INC
GROUP MEMBERS: BAIN CAPITAL PARTNERS VI LP
GROUP MEMBERS: BCIP ASSOCIATES II
GROUP MEMBERS: BCIP ASSOCIATES II-B
GROUP MEMBERS: BCIP ASSOCIATES II-C
GROUP MEMBERS: BCIP TRUST ASSOCIATES II
GROUP MEMBERS: BCIP TRUST ASSOCIATES II-B
GROUP MEMBERS: PEP INVESTMENTS PTY LIMITED
GROUP MEMBERS: W MITT ROMNEY

SUBJECT COMPANY:

COMPANY DATA:
COMPANY CONFORMED NAME: CHIPPAC INC
CENTRAL INDEX KEY: 0001093779
STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION: SEMICONDUCTORS & RELATED DEVICES [3674]
IRS NUMBER: 770463048
STATE OF INCORPORATION: CA
FISCAL YEAR END: 1231

FILING VALUES:
FORM TYPE: SC 13G
SEC ACT:
SEC FILE NUMBER: 005-60973
FILM NUMBER: 1544243

BUSINESS ADDRESS:
STREET 1: 3151 CORONADO DR
CITY: SANTA CLARA
STATE: CA
ZIP: 95054
BUSINESS PHONE: [phone]

MAIL ADDRESS:
STREET 1: 3151 CORONADO DRIVE
CITY: SANTA CLARA
STATE: CA
ZIP: 95054

FILED BY:

COMPANY DATA:
COMPANY CONFORMED NAME: BAIN CAPITAL FUND VI LP
CENTRAL INDEX KEY: 0001065042
STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION: []
IRS NUMBER: 043405560
STATE OF INCORPORATION: DE
FISCAL YEAR END: 1231

FILING VALUES:
FORM TYPE: SC 13G

BUSINESS ADDRESS:
STREET 1: TWO COPLEY PLACE
STREET 2: 7TH FL
CITY: BOSTON
STATE: MA
ZIP: 02116
BUSINESS PHONE: [phone]

MAIL ADDRESS:
STREET 1: TWO COPLEY PL
STREET 2: 7TH FL
CITY: BOSTON
STATE: MA
ZIP: 02116

www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1093779/000089843001000644/0000898430-01-000644.txt

[bleever]

23. "...the undersigned certify that the information set forth in this statement is true..."

(Emphasis added.)

17
<PAGE>

SIGNATURE

After reasonable inquiry and to the best of our knowledge and belief,
the undersigned certify that the information set forth in this statement is
true, complete and correct.


Date: February 14, 2001

BAIN CAPITAL FUND VI, L.P.

By: BAIN CAPITAL PARTNERS VI, L.P.,
its General Partner

By: Bain Capital Investors VI, Inc.,
its General Partner

By: /s/ Eva H. Davis
------------------------------------
Name: Eva H. Davis
Title: Attorney-in-Fact



BAIN CAPITAL PARTNERS VI, L.P.

By: Bain Capital Investors VI, Inc.,
its General Partner

By: /s/ Eva H. Davis
------------------------------------
Name: Eva H. Davis
Title: Attorney-in-Fact


BAIN CAPITAL INVESTORS VI, INC.

By: /s/ Eva H. Davis
------------------------------------
Name: Eva H. Davis
Title: Attorney-in-Fact


18
<PAGE>

BCIP ASSOCIATES II
BCIP ASSOCIATES II-B
BCIP ASSOCIATES II-C
BCIP TRUST ASSOCIATES II
BCIP TRUST ASSOCIATES II-B

By: Bain Capital, Inc.,
their Managing General Partner

By: /s/ Eva H. Davis
------------------------------------
Name: Eva H. Davis
Title: Attorney-in-Fact

BAIN CAPITAL, INC.

By: /s/ Eva H. Davis
------------------------------------
Name: Eva H. Davis
Title: Attorney-in-Fact

PEP INVESTMENTS PTY LIMITED

By: Bain Capital, Inc.,
its Attorney-in-Fact

By: /s/ Eva H. Davis
------------------------------------
Name: Eva H. Davis
Title: Attorney-in-Fact

/s/ W. Mitt Romney
------------------------------------
W. Mitt Romney

[Jessy169]

24. I'm sure Romney has at least two or three explanations for this

I don't see the SEC wanting to jump on this. It doesn't look like a serious issue to me. I just want to hear Romney's explanation. It is the second lie that tries to explain away the first lie that sometimes ends up being the whopper.