2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumwatch this great video from yesterday of Bernie shredding the media at a presser
https://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=bGv2SPB8pNUsilverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]At least for me.
cali
(114,904 posts)silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]I even tried logging out of YouTube first, but both links still take me to the front page.
What's the exact title of the video? Maybe I can find it that way.
On edit: Problem solved below!
DanTex
(20,709 posts)When Bernie says, (roughly quoting here), that the GOP has done a brilliant job dividing the American people on issues like gay marriage and abortion, how is this not tantamount to saying that economic issues are more important than social issues like those?
I mean, one could also alternately say that the GOP has done a great job dividing the American people on economic issues to distract from things like abortion and gay marriage. That we should get Americans together and work for gay rights and abortion and other social issues and not let economic issues divide us.
cali
(114,904 posts)And I don't think.he's saying economic interests are more important, he's responding to a.question about.people voting against their own economic interests.
DanTex
(20,709 posts)If you post this, without the spaces, it will work:
https://www. youtube .com/watch?v=bGv2SPB8pNU
cali
(114,904 posts)mucifer
(23,554 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)much appreciated!
libdem4life
(13,877 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)not manicured
slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)DanTex
(20,709 posts)Why are social issues the divisive ones, and economic issues the ones that people are supposed to come together on? Why aren't the economic issues considered divisive, and why shouldn't people come together based on social issues?
cali
(114,904 posts)a republican tactic
DanTex
(20,709 posts)And there's truth to it. And yet, it does carry the implicit assumption that what people really should be voting on is their economic values and not their social values. Which may be true. But there's still a prioritization there.
2banon
(7,321 posts)they are separate but directly linked in political context, most especially profound in Vulture Capitalist/Plutocratic societies. I believe one of the main reasons why people in our culture do not understand the link, is because it is rarely referenced, it is rarely illustrated, it is rarely pointed out in every day conversation, because it serves the oligarchs very well to confuse perceptions and thereby maintain divisiveness among the working poor and "middle" classes.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)economic self interests.
Bernie points out that the (R)s have divided the country on social issues and I think he is implying that it is because people end up on the (R) side of that divide that they then vote the way the (R)s want them too.
So, people vote against their own economic self interests because they are so fervently against the social issues of the other side that they vote on those instead of the economic issues.
Does that make sense?
silverweb
(16,402 posts)[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]Thanks!
And thank you, DanTex, for fixing the video URL!
Raine1967
(11,589 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)Raine1967
(11,589 posts)slipslidingaway
(21,210 posts)Rosa Luxemburg
(28,627 posts)I liked the way he answered the guy from the UK who asked him about Labour candidate Jeremy Corbyn my hero.