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ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:34 AM Jul 2012

Romney repeats LIES already debunked about trade agreements and jobs plans

Romney repeats LIES already debunked about trade agreements and jobs plans

In Mitt Romney's response to this morning's weak BLS jobs report, I noticed two glaring LIES that have been debunked time and time again. Romney deviated from his usual pattern and took a few questions from the press. But I heard no one challenge two outright lies.

How can Romney expect to get away with repeating blatant LIES that already have been debunked?

WHAT'S YOUR OPINION?

(1) "President Obama has approved no new trade agreements in 3 and a half years".

See http://bobcesca.com/blog-archives/2012/06/fact-check-romney-says-no-new-trade-agreements.html for a fact-check of this same statement last month. Romny ignores trade agreements the President signed with Columbia, Korea, and Panama after months and months of Republican obstruction.

(2) "President Obama has announced no plan for creating jobs".

See http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2011/10/07/economists-president-s-plan-will-create-jobs-now-gop-s-won-t for a White House article on the President's American Jobs Act, introduced last fall. John McCain's campaign economist in 2008, Mark Zandi of Moody's, estimated that the AJA would create 1.9 million jobs, take a full percentage point off the unemployment rate, and increase the economic growth rate by two percentage points. But Republicans have refused to bring these proposals to a vote.

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Romney repeats LIES already debunked about trade agreements and jobs plans (Original Post) ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 OP
Romney is a Republican Botany Jul 2012 #1
Because the GOP lies with relish and impunity djean111 Jul 2012 #2
'we never seem to call them on it', Can't you just picrure split-screen ads ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #3
+1 . . .good stuff. . . . .n/t annabanana Jul 2012 #6
I do agree but to do so can be dangerous but if anyone could Obama could. SoutherDem Jul 2012 #4
You don't have to CALL him a liar.. Just SHOW him lying. annabanana Jul 2012 #7
Exactly! ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #9
'keep Obama out of 'you are a liar' mode'--I agree. I was proposing ProgressiveEconomist Jul 2012 #8
I agree it need to be pointed out and the split screen would be fine. SoutherDem Jul 2012 #10
You expected honesty? SnowBasket1988 Jul 2012 #5
 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
2. Because the GOP lies with relish and impunity
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:46 AM
Jul 2012

and we never seem to call them on it.
Oh, we rant in places like this - but I want to see Obama look into a camera and say Romney lies, and neatly lay out the lies.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
3. 'we never seem to call them on it', Can't you just picrure split-screen ads
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 11:09 AM
Jul 2012

showing Romney on one side and President Obama on the other? We would HEAR Romney lying while we SEE the President shaking hands with Columbians, Koreans, and Panamanians, we SEE screen graphics with dates and details of jobs legislation sent to Congress, etc.

Maybe MoveOn or some other Democratic PAC will run such ads after Labor Day, when voters start paying more attention to the election. Ads are rxpensive.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
4. I do agree but to do so can be dangerous but if anyone could Obama could.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 11:14 AM
Jul 2012

There is something about calling someone a lier which is considered a negative, even if the person did lie and the accusation is completely true.

Many lies have at least a thread, albeit extremely thin, of truth. When someone calls someone a lier and that thin thread of truth exist it can be made to look lie a rope. It makes great 30 second commercials with a sound bites giving just the accusation and the one thin thread. Now it looks like the lier is telling the truth and the one telling the truth is the lier. Basically it can work, but it can backfire.

So, I would rather keep Obama out of the "you are a lier" mode. But, Biden could do this, so could members of congress, and any spokesperson of the President.

Also, if we had a "liberal press", as the Republicans claim, we really wouldn't have to worry about this Romney would be called on the carpet each and everyday.

ProgressiveEconomist

(5,818 posts)
8. 'keep Obama out of 'you are a liar' mode'--I agree. I was proposing
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 09:19 PM
Jul 2012

silent video on one side of the screen of Obama DOING what Romney is saying the President did not do. This is the kind of ad that must be run by a PAC, with no "I am Barack Obama, and I approve of this message" at the end.

SoutherDem

(2,307 posts)
10. I agree it need to be pointed out and the split screen would be fine.
Fri Jul 6, 2012, 10:01 PM
Jul 2012

There are a lot who can call someone a liar, I just didn't want to hear the words come from President Obama's mouth even if it is the truth.

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