Did Bernie cancel a meeting with BLM scheduled AFTER Netroots?

[Skwmom]

Last edited Thu Aug 13, 2015, 07:36 PM - Edit history (1)

It's something I've come across lately and I didn't read that until today. After the Netroot's protest, I remember seeing footage of him being asked how to solve institutional racism (I believe it was) and it seemed like he was sitting down with some people. In addition, I never heard mention of a scheduled Sander's BLM meeting until recently when Hillary and Bush met with BLM members. And if that was the case (that Bernie cancelled a meeting with BLM), I find it EXTREMELY hard to believe it wasn't being screamed from the rooftops until now.

Amazing how they requested a meeting with Bush (and met with him before his speech). Also, they limited their chanting to just repeating BLM and that didn't take place until his speech was wrapped up or wrapping up. Does that even qualify as a protest?

Interesting how both the dynasty candidates get advance notice and are asked for meetings, and there was no distorted spin afterwards or outright lies used against them.

Plus, only the progressives have been called white supremacists. That one really has me scratching my head. Oh well, the Corporate/Moderate wing of the Democratic Party and the Republicans must both be happy with that attack against progressives.

I guess they are right when they say politics makes strange bedfellows....

I've updated the title.

[SonderWoman]

1. It was screamed from the rooftop.

Along with numerous articles written about it.

[orpupilofnature57]

2. Name one . Keep the superlatives and give a fact.

[Snotcicles]

3. I think it is pure BULLSHIT! I could be wrong, but I think it's pure BULLSHIT! nt

[SonderWoman]

4. Name one what?

[Skwmom]

5. Really, because I read a lot of articles and I NEVER heard that assertion made. n/t

[SonderWoman]

12. Here:

http://www.newrepublic.com/article/122329/bernie-sanders-and-martin-omalley-failed-their-blacklivesmatter-test

http://www.theroot.com/articles/politics/2015/07/how_bernie_sanders_and_martin_o_malley_botched_blacklivesmatter_at_netroots.html

http://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/reporters-notebook-sanders-slips-omalley-misses-blacklivesmatter-wins-n394746

There's dozens more articles mentiining he cancelled, even Elon James the NRN organizer said so.

[orpupilofnature57]

33. Thank You

[bvf]

8. Citations, please.

And don't be coy this time. What articles? Where?

[orpupilofnature57]

23. One of the " Numerous Articles "

[SonderWoman]

26. See post 12.

[arcane1]

6. I remember reading here that he had something planned after the NRN speech...

but canceled it after the protest. I don't recall if that was linked to an article or not.

But I would expect every possible corner of this topic to be exploited at some point or another, just to keep the concept alive. People were counting on this being the end of him and aren't willing to let this go without kicking & screaming.

[Maedhros]

7. He definitely DID meet with them in Portland OR:

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/08/bernie_sanders_after_protests.html

Cooper said Sanders gave pat responses to their suggestions. He told them to look at his website. He reminded them he once walked with Martin Luther King Jr.

"They were almost distraught," Cooper said. "They kept saying, 'This is what we're fighting for.' We said, 'We're not saying that's not true. We're saying all you're doing is talking about it. We need direct action. What are you going to do? While you are just talking, people are dying.'"

The next evening, at a rally in Los Angeles, Sanders workers did just as Cooper said he had suggested.

"It is very important that we say the words 'black lives matter,'" Symone Sanders told the crowd. "But it's also important to have people in political office who are going to turn those words into action. No candidate for president is going to fight harder for criminal justice reform and racial justice issues than Senator Bernie Sanders."

Cooper said he'll wait to see what happens next.

"Maybe he's finally going to start making a change," Cooper said. "Maybe he listened. Hopefully we got into his head. We'll see."

The bolded portion, IMHO, demonstrates the disconnect that is at the core of the BLM/Sanders kerfluffle.

"We need direct action. What are you going to do? While you are just talking, people are dying.'" A very good point, which was echoed by Symone in her introduction ("But it's also important to have people in political office who are going to turn those words into action. No candidate for president is going to fight harder for criminal justice reform and racial justice issues than Senator Bernie Sanders.").

Bernie has pledged to take action once elected. But what, exactly, does BLM expect Bernie Sanders to do right now besides include the issue of racial violence and injustice as a plank in his platform? He has done that, yet BLM still calls him out for "ignoring" them. It's disingenuous.

[Skwmom]

15. Interesting how this feeds the new he's just a politician meme. n/t

[Maedhros]

21. The objective of all of this is to damage his candidacy.

If one charge is answered, a new one will immediately be brought forth.

[orpupilofnature57]

34. A sign of guilt & fear, wouldn't you be horny for debates ? Hmmmm

[orpupilofnature57]

24. Anything but the issues .

[Supersedeas]

38. each side will try to frame this to push an ideological wedge

[sufrommich]

9. He cancelled interviews with both Elon James White of TWIB Nation

and Goldie Taylor for TheGrio.Both were scheduled to happen right after the speech,both James and Taylor confirmed that he cancelled without explanation on their Twitter accounts that night.

[aikoaiko]

14. Honest question: Are they #blacklivesmatters or allies?

Or maybe thats not a meaningful distinction.

[sufrommich]

18. Elon James White was the host of Netroots Nation and is a

big voice in #blacklivesmatter,Goldie Taylor supports them but I don't think she's directly connected to them,not that I've seen anyway, but I could be wrong about her.

[orpupilofnature57]

27. Oh it is, and their not leaders in BLM.

[Skwmom]

20. Then I wonder what the footage I saw was from.

I believe it was even on the MMM (Manipulate the Masses Media) CNN or MSNBC.

[sufrommich]

22. I don't know.I have both White and Taylor on my twitter feed.

Both were asked that night if Sanders cancelled their interviews and both affirmed he had.

[kath]

25. I recall reading that he then arranged to meet with them the next day ( or for some of his aides to

do so). But I don't recall seeing anything later about the next-day meetings.

[sufrommich]

31. That could be,I just remember what came across my twitter feed that night.nt

[Skwmom]

32. Maybe that is where the footage was from. n/t

[snagglepuss]

10. Are you saying BLM is spreading this rumor? Do you have a link?

[Skwmom]

17. No I am not saying they are spreading this rumor. But I heard it referred to when reading

about the Clinton and Bush meetings and wanted to know if it was true.

[brush]

11. This is old news

That happened almost a month ago after the Net Roots event.

No one is "starting" this meme now. Have you been asleep for a few weeks?

[Rosa Luxemburg]

28. I was thinking the same thing

http://www.essence.com/2015/08/12/6-things-bernie-sanders-press-secretary-symone-sanders 3 weeks ago

[GoneFishin]

13. I can't wait to see the videos of protestors screaming spittle into Jebya's and Hill's faces.

Oh, there aren't any videos? But weren't we told that all candidates were going to be protested?

Oh, they shared wine and cheese in a private room? Well, that will sure get them to bow down. Take that Jebby and Hills.

Hmmm.

[SonderWoman]

16. Have you read the news?

http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/black-lives-matter-activists-interrupt-jeb-bush-rally-n409066

[Skwmom]

19. They chanted as Bush wrapped up, they had a meeting before hand

Which is what I said in my post.

I also watched a video.

[orpupilofnature57]

29. The Secret Service will protect Hillary or they'll say the ran out of room at the event to paying

Customers .

[giftedgirl77]

30. Google is your friend.

It's easier to dispel a rumor by doing a little research then going on a message board & potentially starting 5 more. Especially since the 2 groups you're doing it to should be natural allies.

[orpupilofnature57]

35. + 1000 !!!!!!!

[Zorra]

36. No. Because the Phoenix Sanders' rally was a few hours after the NN

event, Bernie sent a representative because of the time factor.

Because of the time factor, this had been planned beforehand, and Bernie did not cancel anything'

[BainsBane]

37. Yes, apparently he cancelled all of his meetings after the netroots protest

according to articles printed at the time.