This is simply false: Bernie Sanders is wrong to ignore Black Lives Matter.

[cali]

One can't help but wonder. I think it's fine to hold him to a higher standard. But this is simply mendacious.
http://time.com/3996001/bernie-sanders-black-lives-matter/

[DanTex]

1. You're right, he should keep ignoring it.

More videos of Bernie looking confused while his supporters boo BLM activists are exactly what his campaign needs.

[cali]

6. the last thing he's done is ignored them

And he has not looked confused.

I'm shocked that a devotee of Hillary's would push lying narratives.

[DanTex]

8. In a way, you're right again. Now he's coaching his supporters to shout BLM protestors down.

I guess that's "progress".

[arcane1]

10. More fantasy.

Why are you still exploiting black people for lies?

[DanTex]

13. Did you wonder why the OP didn't actually post the text from the article? Hmm...

After protestors with the “Black Lives Matter” movement took the stage during a Bernie Sanders rally in Seattle Saturday to criticize the presidential candidate for not paying enough attention to issues of race, the Sanders campaign came up with a solution: It decided to shout down future protestors with the phrase, “We stand together.”

This is the worst idea in the campaign’s short life. Think about it: It involves hundreds of mostly white people shouting what is essentially “All lives matter” at the black people who dare to attempt to be heard.

[arcane1]

15. And whose idea was that, in that one location? A BLM rep.

I know the technique very well. You're not very good at it, but with practice you might graduate to YouTube commenter one day.

[DanTex]

16. No, it wasn't a BLM rep, it was a Bernie Sanders staff member. Speaking of "fantasy".

[arcane1]

17. Look, I sympathize. You have a near-impossible task, where even success is a sort of failure.

Anyone would slip up a few times if they were in that situation.

[DanTex]

20. So this is what you say when you lose an argument, huh. LOL. Good times.

[arcane1]

23. Without a role, a character is nothing.

Just vapor that fades with the wind...

[Fawke Em]

49. You're right. It was a black woman who has spent most of her adult life

supporting criminal justice reform who fully supports BLM.

I wish there was a splitting hairs smilie.

[cali]

21. the op didn't post the article because she can't figure out how to do it on her kindle

[Picking Dem]

35. Hope this helps

[cali]

59. thanks!

[Autumn]

57. Meet Symone Sanders, you might not come off looking so bad

http://www.essence.com/2015/08/12/6-things-bernie-sanders-press-secretary-symone-sanders

Earlier this week, Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders named appointed a new national press secretary: 25-year-old Symone Sanders, an outspoken #BlackLivesMatter activist who is passionate about achieving economic justice. Here's everything you need to know about the political aficionado.

[sibelian]

60. Well, THAT'S sinister.

He must be a very spooky guy.

Are his supporters gullible or complicit? Who can say, in these turbulant times?

We must remain ever vigilant, eh DanTex?

[cali]

69. making shit up is despicable. I'm sure you would NEVER do that so

you'll be glad to provide a link to Bernie encouraging his supporters to shout down BLM activists.

Oh, you can't do that?

Making that false claim is contemptible.

Shame on YOU.

[DanTex]

70. The link is in your OP. Did you read past the headline?

After protestors with the “Black Lives Matter” movement took the stage during a Bernie Sanders rally in Seattle Saturday to criticize the presidential candidate for not paying enough attention to issues of race, the Sanders campaign came up with a solution: It decided to shout down future protestors with the phrase, “We stand together.”

[cali]

71. that is not close to what you claim.

[DanTex]

72. "It decided to shout down future protestors with the phrase, “We stand together.”"

[Cali_Democrat]

109. Did you even read your own article?

[senz]

88. That is a blatant falsehood. Aren't you embarrassed?

Of course you're not.

[arcane1]

9. Seriously, every post they make is fiction.

Some people are extremely disappointed that this attempted take-down failed. And they are too sentimental to let it go

[senz]

92. It's getting predictable, isn't it?

Hope I can laugh about it some day. Am still disgusted. Ah! a song lyric already said it --

"Well I used to be disgusted. Now I try to be amused."

[ibegurpard]

11. Hillary and DanTex

The great white saviors...

[JI7]

14. But he isn't ignoring it . his press sec is helping to bring the movement

Into his campaign.

[George II]

45. His press secretary of three days?

[Fawke Em]

52. Three weeks ago, but who's counting?

http://www.essence.com/2015/08/12/6-things-bernie-sanders-press-secretary-symone-sanders

[George II]

53. Read your own link!

Dated August 12 (Wednesday):

"Earlier this week, Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders named appointed a new national press secretary"

How earlier this week becomes three weeks ago is beyond me.

[nadinbrzezinski]

27. Like this ignoring you mean

http://www.democraticunderground.com/1251516428

[George II]

46. Funny thing is, no one knows who....

....those "several prominent voices in, that’s right, the BLM movement" really are.

[nadinbrzezinski]

47. Except you were given an answer by another poster,

Here direct link

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1280&pid=35277

And here, to the thread

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=517306

Have an excellent day.

And to me you are just shit stirring, honest.

I prefer to play with... well...

[George II]

48. Nope, I never got those answers from another poster.....

....and your continued insults are duly noted. Thanks. Some day you'll give someone a direct answer.

Now, since you "prefer to", go "play with... well..."

[nadinbrzezinski]

50. I have given you direct ansswers

but that is ok. That is YOUR problem my "friend."

Have the last word, please. I will not put you on ignore, but I thought you were going to put me on ignore. I guess you will not do that either.

That is fine. continue to play your games. They are amusing.

[George II]

55. No games, and you haven't given me a single "direct answer"...

...otherwise you'd be able to tell me what those anwers were instead of vaguely alluding to them.

And you contradict yourself - you said I was given the names by another poster, NOT you!

So, if what you say is true, I'm sure you can tell me (and the rest of us) the names of these mysterious BLM people, can't you?

Based on history, I seriously doubt I'll be seeing any names.

[nadinbrzezinski]

67. Jesus you are playing games

W.E.B.B.I.E DuBois ?@fivefifths
Folks made demands loudly. They protested. They got the beginnings of a tangible policy. Passive voting probably wouldn't have yielded this.


Mavis Beacon @_CasanovaJr
If Bernie plays his cards right, the BLM interruption could be the best thing to happen to his campaign.


Uppity Panthro ?@BLUpfront
An amazing document. It would not exist if #BlackLivesMatter had not stepped up. Other campaigns will have to follow


deray mckesson @deray

The Sanders campaign just released the beginnings of a racial justice platform that has many strong elements, influenced by the movement.

[senz]

90. Of course they're playing games, nadin.

It's what they do. I'm just glad they're on the other side because like attracts like.

And I admire you for encouraging them to be better than they are. I do that kind of thing too. But it's a fool's errand. They're stuck.

[Live and Learn]

54. It doesn't seem that you have been paying attention.

Bernie did give one of them the mike and let her speak before he did in Los Angeles.

[senz]

85. He was the FIRST candidate to state that "Black Lives Matter."

Yours said "ALL lives matter."

And, DanTex, you ought to know by now that the disrupted rally WAS NOT a Bernie Sanders rally. It was a social security/medicare rally and Bernie was an INVITED SPEAKER. He was not in charge. So that wasn't "confusion" on his face.

Ugh.

And those "supporters" were supporters of SS/medicare, many of them disabled themselves.

Now aren't you ashamed to be saying those things? Rhetorical question, because of course you're not.

[Maedhros]

2. The author is clueless.

He should pass the microphone willingly over to those who most need to be heard.

After protestors with the “Black Lives Matter” movement took the stage during a Bernie Sanders rally in Seattle Saturday to criticize the presidential candidate for not paying enough attention to issues of race, the Sanders campaign came up with a solution: It decided to shout down future protestors with the phrase, “We stand together.”

From here:

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2015/08/bernie_sanders_after_protests.html

The next day Sanders spoke to a crowd of 28,000 at Portland's Moda Center. Black activists here said his campaign workers invited them to attend the rally, but they demurred. Instead, they held their own rally outside the Moda Center.

"They asked us to attend," Cooper said. "They didn't want us to run on stage and interrupt. I said, 'No, we're cool.'"

. . .

Cooper agreed to meet with Sanders in a private room at the Moda Center if activists from other groups could join them.

Cooper said he and six others met with Sanders, his wife, Jane Sanders, and Symone Sanders, a 25-year-old African-American woman promoted over the weekend to become the candidate's spokeswoman.

. . .

"I think the meeting was in direct response to Black Lives Matter in Seattle disrupting his speech," said Jonah Majure, a climate change activist who joined Cooper in the meeting. "He definitely did not seem like he agreed with the disruptions, but it puts more focus on him to address these structural issues."

The activists talked with Sanders for about a half-hour. They talked about police reform and wealth inequality. Mostly, they encouraged Sanders to reframe the way he talks about Black Lives Matter.

Not quite "ignoring" them, eh?

This smear campaign is getting tiresome.

[giftedgirl77]

4. You didn't read the while article...

[Maedhros]

18. I did.

The claim that Sanders is "ignoring" BLM is false on its face, and my post was an attempt to demonstrate that.

[senz]

94. It's all they've got. They're clinging for life to it.

Shows how scared they are -- of a good man. Pretty sad.

[giftedgirl77]

3. I have some key sections of the article I have pulled

for you to read:

After protestors with the “Black Lives Matter” movement took the stage during a Bernie Sanders rally in Seattle Saturday to criticize the presidential candidate for not paying enough attention to issues of race, the Sanders campaign came up with a solution: It decided to shout down future protestors with the phrase, “We stand together.”

This is the worst idea in the campaign’s short life. Think about it: It involves hundreds of mostly white people shouting what is essentially “All lives matter” at the black people who dare to attempt to be heard.

Snip>

That’s wrong. You cannot look at a group of people living in fear and dying in droves and tell them they are protesting incorrectly. It’s easy to sit back and critique the method when it isn’t your life on the line. But if someone were being choked, the last thing they would need is a passerby saying, “I’d love to help you out. But could you at least say “please?” Convince me why I should save your life, and do it politely.”

White people have the time and the luxury to wait for the system we created to work in our favor. Black people do not, and that has been made clear in the last few months. If a million microphones have to be torn from a million rich, white politicians in a rude fashion to get that message heard, then I support that 100%.

Snip

Maybe as you continue to critique a movement for PoC by PoC you take a step back & listen. We aren't you & we aren't our parents, this is our time to fight for ourselves, our kin, & our people just as ”you” did 40+ years ago. We're handling shit differently & don't need your approval.

[ibegurpard]

5. of course it's false.

Bernie will continue to shine a spotlight on this cause. He can't speak for black people because he's not black. But he's as outraged about thus shit as anyone else.

The people who wanted him to speak directly to this movement and who are still trying to make an issue out of this are betraying their true motivations. This issue is not a political football.

Take up the slogan. With Symone Sanders.

[Maedhros]

22. I greatly prefer Symone's message of standing together against racism,

than BLM's message of attacking white progressives.

[Vinca]

7. Every time BLM comes on the screen I change the channel.

Their cause is good, but their tactics are rude, disrespectful and annoying. You know what would make a difference? If all of the black community voted. Elect mayors, city council members, sheriffs . . . that's how to control your destiny. Yelling in the face of a 73 year old man who happens to advocate for you makes no sense.

[onecaliberal]

12. I agree that things will not change for them

Until they do all those things. A POTUS can't change local police.

[giftedgirl77]

25. You are exactly who should be reading the whole article.

Snip>

That’s wrong. You cannot look at a group of people living in fear and dying in droves and tell them they are protesting incorrectly. It’s easy to sit back and critique the method when it isn’t your life on the line. But if someone were being choked, the last thing they would need is a passerby saying, “I’d love to help you out. But could you at least say “please?” Convince me why I should save your life, and do it politely.”

White people have the time and the luxury to wait for the system we created to work in our favor. Black people do not, and that has been made clear in the last few months. If a million microphones have to be torn from a million rich, white politicians in a rude fashion to get that message heard, then I support that 100%.

Snip>

For the love of god people stop sitting on your perch critiquing our activism.

[mythology]

51. Feet stomping is something done by children, not serious grown ups

The protesters in Seattle weren't and aren't serious activists in my opinion. They want to get attention on themselves, which they did. But they don't present a serious case for why anybody should listen to them.

But maybe I just missed John Lewis or Martin Luther King shoving JFK out of the way to rant and rave.

If somebody wants respect, act in a way to deserve it. Act in a way that makes the people denying your rights look like they lack humanity. It wasn't the people doing sit ins in the 1960s who were dumping drinks on others. It wasn't the people marching for the right to vote carrying sticks and beating people or using fire hoses.

[MisterP]

19. today's theme is "Black people don't feel safe at Sanders rallies"

there's been plenty of trash talk online, and even harsh criticism of BLM as well as OA--but there's all too many reasonable people who read these posts and agree that a Sanders event is basically an Oathkeeper-overrun Ferguson and that this has to change: it's the new "but what if Iran uses its nukes on Israel?!!!1111"

of course this is all online chatter (like my own post! so meta!) and the real world's liking Bernie better and better (probably because he recognizes the real world)

[arcane1]

24. Some people play the roles they are supposed to play. That's one of those people.

It seems like only a few weeks ago that same person was claiming Sanders deliberately avoids having black people in his audiences.

When your only tool is a hammer and all that

[QC]

28. I remember when Skinner had to lock that person out of the LGBT group

because of his relentless homophobic bullying.

Now he is grieving over how mean this place has become.

It's very touching, isn't it?

[arcane1]

29. There was their "DU is filled with racists" phase a while back too.

Funny how that works.

[QC]

30. Some people are only here to antagonize and divide,

and they will use whatever tool is at hand, even if that means exploiting worthy causes.

[kwassa]

38. Are you calling somebody out? I believe that is against DU rules.

[senz]

86. That was a polite, mild statement about commenting style.

Are you just aching for an "Alert" to silence someone who doesn't happen to agree with you? I hope not.

[kwassa]

95. No, it wasn't. This entire subthread is an effort to claim ....

that 1strongblackman is really the banned poster Hamden Rice.

Which is wild bullshit.

[senz]

96. Have no idea who "Hamdem Rice" is (or was.)

But the comment I defended was, on its own, quite mild.

Boy, DU is a hotbed. Microcosm of society. Gawd I hope I don't get addicted to this place.

[kwassa]

98. The comment makes references to old DU wars, and doesn't stand alone.

As a newbie, you are not in a position to understand the reference. The mild comment has huge hostility underlying it, with lots of history.

[senz]

100. Oh lord.

Enough drama for everyone.

[kwassa]

113. Oh. A newbie complains.

Are you a new incarnation of a banned poster?

[Autumn]

56. One thing I learned on MIRT, the name can change but the habits remain the same.

It's interesting.

[sufrommich]

64. Are you accusing 1StrongBlackMan of being a troll? nt

[Bobbie Jo]

68. You won't get anything that resembles a

direct answer here.

Yuck.

[Autumn]

74. I made no accusations. 1StrongBlackMan has said he was here before under another

name. That's no secret. People know who he was, in fact some encouraged him not to tell who he was because what had gotten him banned would be used against him. Skinner has said people can return as long as they don't do what got them banned before.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024991522#post48

[sufrommich]

76. There is nothing in that link that has him giving his former

name on DU.

[Autumn]

77. Read the post, I linked to where he said in a post he had been here before.

I didn't say he gave his former name.

[sufrommich]

79. You're playing along in a sub thread where 1SBM is being

accused of being a banned homophobe with a specific name,did that escape you? If you didn't mean to add fuel to that fire than why mention that he used to be someone else? That makes no sense.

[Autumn]

81. Uh, it's a message board and I knew a bit on the subject so I joined the conversation.

[kwassa]

97. Here is a question for you.

You may not have meant to do this, but you are supporting this lie.

1strongblackman was here before. Was he Hamden Rice or not?

[Autumn]

101. Some say he is, some say he isn't. You are wrong, I supported

with his own words, that he had been here before and he had made a mistake arguing something he wouldn't ever do again. I ask you, what is the lie in the link I posted? Those are his words.

[kwassa]

104. You avoided my question completely, and continue to support the lie by doing so.

Nice work.

and you were on MIRT?

[Autumn]

106. I answered your question, if you don't like the answer I gave you that's not my problem.

[kwassa]

114. No you didn't.

I asked you if YOU thought 1strongblackman is Hamden Rice.

You didn't answer that question.

[Autumn]

115. Some say he is, some say he isn't.

That's the answer I gave YOU. He didn't say who he was before in his post. If you don't like the answer, that's just too bad because that's the only answer you get.

[Number23]

103. 1SBM is not and has never been Hamden Rice. He is not. End of story

As I said, this is an attempt by a very small and apparently beyond bored group to rekindle old hates and wounds. But looking at my PMs, this subthread has been incredibly illuminating to a shitload of DUers, including people I have never seen and definitely never communicated with before. So maybe it has served some purpose after all.

I love the alert in the message that Bobbie Jo posted. If you haven't seen it already, I suggest you check it out.

[sufrommich]

63. You should look in the mirror. nt

[Bobbie Jo]

66. No kidding.

Epic pot/kettle moment.

Wow.

[1StrongBlackMan]

32. If "that person" that you are talking about is me ...

then, you are a damned liar ... I have not been locked out of the LGBT Group and a cowardly liar at that.

[QC]

34. It was widely discussed at the time. Here are a couple of links:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=221&topic_id=174230&mesg_id=174487

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=437&topic_id=1827&mesg_id=1986

[Number23]

40. You need to edit your post

It is beyond apparent that the discussion and attention given to #BLM is being used by a very small group as a cudgel to churn up some old, long dead (or should be) DU grudges. And given the stuff from certain quarters on this web site for months on end SEVEN YEARS AGO, why anyone would want to dredge all of this back up is simply beyond me.

The issue is #BLM. The attempts by some to keep trying desperately to change the subject is what it is. But most people have completely ignored them and their bizarre attempts to highjack so many threads on #BLM and I think that's the best way to deal with it.

[Indydem]

44. It is unfathomable that your post was allowed to stand.

You are making an unsubstantiated slanderous claim against a respected member of this forum.

It is clear that the 4 that voted to allow this post to stand did so because they don't like 1SBM.

The DU is going straight to hell and people like you are directly responsible.

[Bobbie Jo]

65. Unbelievable

Some people seriously need to get a new hobby.

[LanternWaste]

78. Your implication coupled with your lack of valid evidence certainly illustrate

Your implication coupled with your lack of valid evidence certainly illustrate the measure of both your courage and your convictions.

[Bobbie Jo]

80. Results

Sadly, I wasn't on this jury.


ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Accuses a respected member of being a zombie of someone banned for homophobia. It is not true, and it shows the problems this poster has with black men that he thinks they are all the same person.

The Jury voted 3-4 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: OK...just followed the thread and the alerter appears to be right. That poster is accusing 1StrongBlackMan of being a homophobic zombie.

Jesus.....the shit people try to come up with and float on DU.


Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: I'm not sure who 1SBM is, but if he's being accused of being someone who he isn't, then the post should be hidden.
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Is this a joke or some kind of a test? Am I missing something? The post: "It was widely discussed at the time. Here are a couple of links". Umm...what am I missing? Leave it.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: 23,443 posts and a massive douchebag. When are some of these tools going to start getting banned from the site?
Reply

[Quayblue]

82. Jury results, this is a bunch of silliness

On Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:37 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

Results
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=518456

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

Poster says Sadly, I wasn't on this jury but posts the results she was sent just to repeat the alert which is nothing more than slander

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Fri Aug 14, 2015, 02:56 PM, and the Jury voted 0-7 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Posting jury decisions is not slander.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: Kids, stop throwing sand at eachother. Thank you!
Juror #3 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: People post jury results all the time. But if she wasn't on the jury, how did she get them?
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: This was a very tough call. I really had to study this. I think a couple of wrong things are going on here, including ganging up on 1StrongBlackMan for being on the more conservative side of DU (which he is, but not illegal) and a thread-jacking of the OP because of this argument. It looks like 1SBM finally got swarmed and hidden above, and this is a revenge alert.

I can't see hiding Bobbie Jo over this particular remark, though. It's just a straightforward remark opinion that he/she would have voted differently. If you want to read into it deeply, it's a confession that this person misuses juries to conduct what they see as social justice rather than enforce the ToS, but, IMHO, that's cause for reforming the jury system. We all already know that's a problem. And 1SBM already got jury-swarmed anyway: look above - he's been hidden. Mobbing achieved.

@Bobbie Jo - I personally request that you delete this remark. 1StrongBlackMan is not a sockpuppet even if you disagree with what he has to say. Consider becoming a peacemaker in that thread instead.
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: The results of a jury only show up for everyone to read if someone posts them. if anyone slandered anyone it was the person who posted the results. Everyone is pissed right now. No one should be banned. Everyone needs to take a moment and get their shit in order. Everyone is gunning for everyone. Stop it.
Juror #6 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: ALERTER, this is NOT a violation of TOS! This is quite a reach. LEAVE IT

[Bobbie Jo]

83. I'm not surprised...

Thank you for the head's up. That was quite a stretch there. At least the alerter will have to cool their heels for a day.

To juror #4:

I ADORE 1SBM. I thought he was treated badly here, and I wanted folks to see what is happening behind the scenes of this ugly saga. I certainly would have voted to hide if I were on that jury. Sadly, I was not.

I found the results elsewhere on the site for those who were wondering.

Thanks again, Quayblue.

[senz]

102. It would be kind of funny though if banned posters came back as zombies.

Hmm...might be good material for a nice little sci fi story. "Return of the banned zombie!"

In the meantime, this should help: http://www.cdc.gov/phpr/zombies.htm

The CDC on Zombie Preparedness.

Doesn't say anything about homophobic zombies.

That could be the sequel.

[Spirochete]

108. The Posting Dead!

[senz]

111. Ha! So that's what banned homophobic commenters look like...

and I didn't even know vampires wore glasses. Thanks, Spirochete!

[Duckhunter935]

37. FYI

On Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:43 PM an alert was sent on the following post:

I remember when Skinner had to lock that person out of the LGBT group
http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1251&pid=516727

REASON FOR ALERT

This post is disruptive, hurtful, rude, insensitive, over-the-top, or otherwise inappropriate.

ALERTER'S COMMENTS

This post is a dishonest, disgusting smear of a black poster. 1SBM is not HamdenRice. The efforts by a small group to rekindle old grudges and reinjure old wounds while having nothing to say about Black Lives Matter is a disgusting, dishonest tactic that says much more about the people doing it than could ever be said about their targets.

You served on a randomly-selected Jury of DU members which reviewed this post. The review was completed at Thu Aug 13, 2015, 08:59 PM, and the Jury voted 2-5 to LEAVE IT.

Juror #1 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: 1StrongBlackMan isn't named in the post.
Juror #2 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #3 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #4 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #5 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given
Juror #6 voted to HIDE IT
Explanation: It does seem to be going over the line. Damaging a person's character by using false information is a hide able offense, IMHO.
Juror #7 voted to LEAVE IT ALONE
Explanation: No explanation given

Thank you very much for participating in our Jury system, and we hope you will be able to participate again in the

[kwassa]

39. So, you are strongly hinting someone here is Hamden Rice.

Having followed both of these noters, I would say you have a lurid imagination.

I think you 1strongblackman an apology.

[Number23]

41. Implying that someone is a zombie, a homophobe and got locked out of the gay forum is okay

DEFENDING yourself against those bullshit charges is apparently the only problem.

[kwassa]

43. Yes, he got a hide for someone else's imagination and slander.

DU has reached new depths.

[DemocratSinceBirth]

73. That hide is shameful.

It suggests certain people aren't welcome.

[emulatorloo]

75. And it is shameful that the Hamden Rice smear post was NOT hidden

It suggests certain people can get away with lying and smearing if they are among DU's protected class.

[JustAnotherGen]

61. How long ago was this?

I've never known 1strongblackman to hold the tiniest bit of animosity in his heart towards the GLBT community? I'd like to know what kind of person I'm dealing with. How did you figure it out?

[sufrommich]

62. Shame on you for that disgusting accusation. nt

[1StrongBlackMan]

33. If that "same person" is me ...

that is NOT what I said. But some people hear only what they want to hear ... which happens to be one of the problems in the BLM dust up.

[GitRDun]

26. My guess is by now they have a plan...

With sufficient security so he is not pushed off the stage, the prepared chant seems harmless too, they'll be fine. Whatever they're doing, as long as Bernie can do what he needs to do and they're not being disrespectful, it'll go over fine.

They screwed up a bit the first time, but these are not dumb people..they'll get it right.

[Skwmom]

31. So Bernie has to turn over his microphone or he is ignoring them? They seem desperate to shut down

his message against the oligarchy.

[mmonk]

58. Some can see through what's going on in this regard.

[daredtowork]

84. Mendacious Lead, But Good Stuff in the Middle

I agree that the lead is mendacious, and I'm angry at the writer and Time for publishing a piece that sure to crank the outrage machine back up within the Bernie campaign. This we don't need. In fact, for those of us who are super paranoid about Hillary Money, we may even suspect this is the Hillary campaign stooping to Rovian tactics.

However, I'd set the outrage aside long enough to read the middle of the article. Bernie supporters do need to continue to listen to and acknowledge the point of the BLM movement. They are about achieving racial justice and getting their goals on deck on NOW. They are about being heard NOW. They are about inserting themselves into any and every conversation NOW. They are about getting their job done NOW. They are saying they have waited long enough.

If Bernie is "most likely to listen", shouldn't his supporters be "most likely to listen", too? Why does BLM have to grab the mic at the events of white politicians with cred? You might ask where *their* mic is that will get that same audience of thousands of white progressives? When we say "we are not here to listen to them". the next question you should ask yourself is "in what venue DO I listen to them?" In this context, lecturing BLM on their tactics is laughable.

I wish this author would revise this article. Especially the headline. It is misleading and sh*t stirring and will just make things worse instead of better. But we should read it anyway for the middle part and get the message.

[senz]

87. Time commenters set that dishonest reporter straight.

It's as if "truth" is getting popular! Andy Borowitz is right!

[nadinbrzezinski]

89. I hope it becomes more than just a passing fad

[senz]

91. Oh you and me both.

Otherwise, we're all in for some very, very hard times. The kind we read about in history books.

[senz]

93. Am even more glad to be a Bernie supporter after reading this thread.

Who'd want to take up with these other folks?

Of course there are also nice Hillary supporters, and I've talked with a few. They're probably embarrassed at the behavior of some in their ranks.

Hm. Wonder if Hillary would be? Not sure...

[senz]

99. It WASN'T a Sanders rally. Was NOT a Sanders rally.

It was an afternoon social security/medicare event. Bernie was an invited speaker. He was not in charge. He was a guest. The other (older) guy was in charge. Bernie behaved politely, stepped back, as a guest should. He was not in control of the mike. Or anything. His rally would be later that night.

The crowd? Most of them were there for the SS event, though of course they would have liked to hear Bernie speak. Many were older and/or disabled and fearful of losing the assistance that keeps them going. Bet they loved it when those two strong young women charged in and closed it down.

So stop calling it a "Sanders rally." Because it wasn't.

[pnwmom]

107. The event was heavily advertised as a Sanders event. He was the KEYNOTER.

Do you think all the people there were to see Rep. Adam Smith? (You don't even know the name of the "older guy.&quot Or the Council member or the folk singer?

No, they were there to hear Bernie Sanders speak about social security.

But you are right about how the audience felt. When Bernie decided to leave the stage without speaking, everyone was disappointed. The event "closed down" because with Bernie gone, there was no more reason to continue.

[Zorra]

110. Exactly. The author of that article was extremely misinformed.

It was not a Sander's rally. The microphone was not his to give.

[jfern]

105. The media is such a joke

that they failed to notice that his National Press Secretary has been speaking on BLM before he talks at his rallies.