2016 Postmortem
Related: About this forumHRC tweet flippantly "addresses" student load debt.
https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/631538115514007553HRC Tweet: How does your student loan debt make you feel? Tell us in 3 emojis or less.
Hint HRC, a lot of people who are still paying off student loans are in their 30's 40's 50's and beyond. (and as noted in the locked version) a lot of Millennials can't even afford to go to college. Instead of a flippant one off, how about you ask a substantial adult question on the subject and maybe we all can have an grown up conversation?
PatrickforO
(14,584 posts)why are we not making college MUCH more affordable?"
Something like that?
arcane1
(38,613 posts)SonderWoman
(1,169 posts)Emoji's don't discriminate.
PowerToThePeople
(9,610 posts)Ed Suspicious
(8,879 posts)azmom
(5,208 posts)ibegurpard
(16,685 posts)I don't view this as flippant. It's just the nature of the medium. I hate Twitter.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Weird.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)by the thousands and some highly-paid advisor told her she must get on social media and be hip, be with it, be in the now and in the know. Once again, re-acting and not leading. And on it goes.
whatchamacallit
(15,558 posts)Hillary -> https://m.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)eta wasn't during the mid to late 1990's that the 'fangs' were put into student loan collection laws?
LannyDeVaney
(1,033 posts)I follow her on Twitter and she followed up these requests by poking fun at it "backfiring" then included a link to her policy proposals.
This link:
Edit: Previous link was forward from twitter. Here is a direct link
http://hrc.io/college
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)rhett o rick
(55,981 posts)Here is her bottom line:
1. "Under the New College Compact, no student should have to borrow to pay tuition at a public college."
"No student should have to borrow" Of course not. I am glad you understand that. But what is your plan to make that happen?
2. "Schools will have to control their costs and show more accountability to their students."
How do you propose to make them control costs? And showing accountability to their students is absurd.
3. "States will have to meet their obligation to invest in higher education."
Or what? Saying that states "will have to" means nothing. It is not a plan.
4. "The federal government will increase its investment in education," More specifics please. How will the federal government increase its investment in education and how will that help students?
" and (the government) wont profit off student loans." NO ONE SHOULD PROFIT OFF OF STUDENT LOANS.
"And millions with student debt will be able to refinance it at lower rates." I assume you mean that you will support legislation to allow student debt to be refinanced?
There is no plan included in the above. Saying that states, schools, should do stuff, is't a plan.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)It's not like it was a one-off and nothign was said before or afterwards.
Context and all.
azurnoir
(45,850 posts)LannyDeVaney
(1,033 posts)azurnoir
(45,850 posts)from your link the actually 'wheat'
under the New College Compact, no student should have to borrow to pay tuition at a public college.
Schools will have to control their costs and show more accountability to their students.
States will have to meet their obligation to invest in higher education.
The federal government will increase its investment in education, and wont profit off student loans.
And millions with student debt will be able to refinance it at lower rates.
Thats my plan. Its ambitious and we should be ambitious. But its also achievable. And it would make a big difference in peoples lives.
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)How stupid of him was it to do something like that.
It's like these politicians don't know how to interact with real people.
Real people don't use emojis.
If this is what people are latching onto for their vitriol, it's hilarious. It's a throw anything at the wall kind of approach.
Better hope Bernie's team never uses an emoji on twitter or other social media.
AtomicKitten
(46,585 posts)Mnemosyne
(21,363 posts)DemocratSinceBirth
(99,710 posts)Most folks whose hearts are in the right place will forgive someone whose heart is in the right place.
cyberswede
(26,117 posts)I use Twitter a lot (I'm 49), and I'm still paying my student debt from grad school.
But I wouldn't be able to limit my choices to 3.
Puglover
(16,380 posts)Bernie supporter here but this is a total stretch. It is the lingo of the medium she is using.
elfin
(6,262 posts)She ( or her Twitter intern) fell into the "less/fewer"'grammar trap.
If items or things (such as emojis) can be counted, use "fewer."
I make grammar messes all the time, but would hope my candidate models better behavior.
stevenleser
(32,886 posts)Picking Dem
(106 posts)stevenleser
(32,886 posts)And welcome to DU.
Picking Dem
(106 posts)Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Please sum up the feelings you have about the crushing debt that is ruining your life with three frowny faces or less.
As if it is possible.
Flippant is being kind.
See why people think she is out of touch?
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)Just because you don't understand it doesn't make it flippant.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)she asked for 3 emoji or less. That is why I said three frowny faces.
Does this come anywhere close to describing how a debt that is ruining your life actually makes you feel?
It wasn't flippant, it was asinine.
Just how low are our standards supposed to be for her? If JEB did this you, I and everyone else with common sense would be all over him for it. But because it is Hillary she gets a pass. The standards for her should be higher, not extremely lower.
azmom
(5,208 posts)Response to TalkingDog (Original post)
Motown_Johnny This message was self-deleted by its author.
giftedgirl77
(4,713 posts)I can describe a lot of things in 3 emojis or less.
🐂💩
👌
😱
😤
👏
?????????
BuelahWitch
(9,083 posts)OKNancy
(41,832 posts)Hillary will put an -H at the end of the ones she writes personally.
Motown_Johnny
(22,308 posts)Remember that it took over a week to come up with the "I didn't want to carry two phones" excuse for the private email server? Over A Week for that nonsense.
She still doesn't have a stance on TPP. Well actually, she seems to have three. Shouldn't her staff figure out where she needs to be on this so she can look like she isn't a political weather vane?
When asked about the Keystone XL pipeline she responds that she won't answer that question until she is President. Just WTF was that?
Now someone in her staff asks people to sum up their feelings about the debt that is ruining their life with 3 frowny faces or less?
She is a horrible candidate. If she wasn't, she would hire staff that isn't horrible.