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Obama campaign now using the term ''Obamacare'' in campaign ads (Original Post) Tx4obama Jul 2012 OP
Be sure to reference thanks to RomneyCare, too TheCowsCameHome Jul 2012 #1
We should also adopt "Democrat Party", too.... NYC_SKP Jul 2012 #2
I've never really understood the Democrat/Democratic thing, since I've known PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #4
Ima proud member of da Democrat Party! flamingdem Jul 2012 #12
It drives me nuts too, and I will NOT use it. See below Tx4obama Jul 2012 #14
It's shocking when educated Republicans use the term flamingdem Jul 2012 #16
It's pure assholery. Orangepeel Jul 2012 #18
GOP strategists christen "Democrat [sic] Party" -- and the media comply flamingdem Jul 2012 #19
I just posted lower down on the thread about the origin of "Democrat Party" flamingdem Jul 2012 #20
In case you missed it PoliticAverse Jul 2012 #3
I for one like the term ''ObamaCare'', twenty years from now ... Tx4obama Jul 2012 #5
I totally agree! Cracklin Charlie Jul 2012 #10
He has his Mt. Rushmore with this flamingdem Jul 2012 #13
Amen! And that's JUST how I also spell it: ObamaCare (or ObamaCares) 66 dmhlt Jul 2012 #22
Love it! silverweb Jul 2012 #6
Hee hee! That was supposed to be a four-letter word! rocktivity Jul 2012 #7
A sure way to get the baggers to stop using it. bluerum Jul 2012 #8
Flippin' the muh-fuckin' script, kid alcibiades_mystery Jul 2012 #9
There's nothing wrong with the term Obamacare ilikeitthatway Jul 2012 #11
I think it should be plural -- ObamaCares LiberalFighter Jul 2012 #15
Good for him. bigwillq Jul 2012 #17
F O R T H E L O V E O F G O D ! ! ! Cosmocat Jul 2012 #21
Embrace it and explain it--the more people understand it the stronger he'll be. bklyncowgirl Jul 2012 #23
I remember a lot of us not liking this, but I now think this is a very smart move. Liberal_Stalwart71 Jul 2012 #24
Nicknaming it Obamacare davidpdx Jul 2012 #25
It's always interesting when insults become compliments, or vice-versa. bemildred Jul 2012 #26
The funny thing is davidpdx Jul 2012 #29
And they should. It's popular and helps countless people. Turn their word against them. HopeHoops Jul 2012 #27
Republicans may rue the day they dubbed it Obamacare.... yellowcanine Jul 2012 #28

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
4. I've never really understood the Democrat/Democratic thing, since I've known
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:20 PM
Jul 2012

lots of Democrats but no Democratics.

flamingdem

(39,328 posts)
12. Ima proud member of da Democrat Party!
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 11:09 PM
Jul 2012


That's funny because I'll admit that drives me nuts -- so why not just join 'em if they insist -- language is fungible.

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
14. It drives me nuts too, and I will NOT use it. See below
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 11:29 PM
Jul 2012

When I read the except below the other day I thought it was hilarious - Palin called Nancy Pelosi a dingbat and then several times seconds later Palin showed that SHE herself is the dingbat by saying 'Democrat Party'.



Former Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin called House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi a “dingbat” Friday in response to her celebration over the Supreme Court’s decision to uphold the Affordable Care Act.

“First off, Nancy Pelosi is a dingbat,” Palin said on Fox News’ “Hannity.“ ”She is the perfect spokesperson for this whole agenda of the far left running the Democrat Party.”

“I know a lot of Democrats who are absolutely embarrassed and disgusted with what her and Harry Reid’s leadership has provided the Democrat Party,” Palin continued, without naming anyone specifically. “They want to bail out of the Democrat Party specifically because of the things that she says, the things that she does, what it is that she represents.”

snip-

flamingdem

(39,328 posts)
16. It's shocking when educated Republicans use the term
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jul 2012

and I wonder if they fear censure from their brethren or if they're just Morans..

flamingdem

(39,328 posts)
19. GOP strategists christen "Democrat [sic] Party" -- and the media comply
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:54 AM
Jul 2012
http://mediamatters.org/research/2006/08/16/gop-strategists-christen-democrat-sic-party-and/136406

In recent months, media figures, including news reporters at CNN, The New York Times, The Wall Street Journal, the Chicago Tribune, and the Associated Press echoed Republicans by employing the word "Democrat" as an adjective to describe things or people of, or relating to, the Democratic Party -- including referring to the "Democrat" Party itself, even though that is not the party's name. The ungrammatical conversion of the noun "Democrat" to an adjective was the brainchild of Republican partisans, presumably an attempt to deny the opposing party the claim to being "democratic" -- or in the words of New Yorker magazine senior editor Hendrik Hertzberg, "to deny the enemy the positive connotations of its chosen appellation." In the early 1990s, apparently due largely to the urging of then-House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-GA) and Republican pollster Frank Luntz, the use of the word "Democrat" as an adjective became near-universal among Republicans.

Hertzberg pointed out in an article for the August 7 issue of The New Yorker that the word "Democrat" is a noun, arguing that its use as an adjective defies the rules of English grammar:

The American Heritage College Dictionary, for example, defines the noun "Democratic Party" as "One of the two major US political parties, owing its origin to a split in the Democratic-Republican Party under Andrew Jackson in 1828." (It defines "Democrat n" as "A Democratic Party member" and "Democratic adj" as "Of, relating to, or characteristic of the Democratic Party," but gives no definition for -- indeed, makes no mention of -- "Democrat Party n" or "Democrat adj".) Other dictionaries, and reference works generally, appear to be unanimous on these points.

Hertzberg noted that Republicans "as far back as the Harding Administration" have referred to the "Democrat Party," including late Sen. Joseph McCarthy (R-WI), who "made it a regular part of his arsenal of insults," and former Sen. Bob Dole (R-KS), who "denounced 'Democrat wars' ... in his [1976] Vice-Presidential debate with [former Sen.] Walter Mondale [D-MN]."

flamingdem

(39,328 posts)
20. I just posted lower down on the thread about the origin of "Democrat Party"
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:55 AM
Jul 2012

and can't believe the MSM picked up on it -- I don't watch much CNN

Tx4obama

(36,974 posts)
5. I for one like the term ''ObamaCare'', twenty years from now ...
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:24 PM
Jul 2012

Obamacare will be a GREAT reminder to America that it was the Democrats that provided more healthcare for Americans and that it was NOT the republicans

I think that the word 'ObamaCare' will be as popular in the future, in a positive way, as 'Medicare' is now




silverweb

(16,402 posts)
6. Love it!
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:26 PM
Jul 2012

[font color="navy" face="Verdana"]It will always be [font color="purple"]Obamacare [font color="navy"]to me, with a great big "Thank you, President Obama!" included.

rocktivity

(44,577 posts)
7. Hee hee! That was supposed to be a four-letter word!
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 09:45 PM
Jul 2012

What they have to do now is make it morph into "Obama Cares."


rocktivity

ilikeitthatway

(143 posts)
11. There's nothing wrong with the term Obamacare
Mon Jul 2, 2012, 10:46 PM
Jul 2012

Republicans tried to make it a slur and it backfired. Remember Hillarycare?

Big deal. Obama won this one. Now, the hilarious thing is going to be Romneycare. Keep the Obamacare name out there to hit back at Romney. The Right really can't hit Obama with anything regarding healthcare now. Obama is endorsing the term, and has their candidate cornered. They're giving Romney's healthcare plan a term: "Obamacare = Romneycare". It's brilliant! Obamacare helped this country get on the path to real healthcare. In the future, Obamacare will be noted as Obama caring for the health of the public at large. Remember how FDR turned out with Social Security. They branded him a Communist. He ended up saving the country with a system that's still intact today (even though the Right keeps trying to kill it).

Cosmocat

(14,574 posts)
21. F O R T H E L O V E O F G O D ! ! !
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 07:04 AM
Jul 2012

For once, just frucking ONCE, can the democratic party not run from a fricking WIN!

It just is bizarre how the media instantaneously flipped from their wanting the SC to nullify HCR to slam the president for it being put down to somehow spinning the Supreme Court upholding it as BAD for Obama and GOOD for republicans.

USA today yesterday - second page title "GOP PREDICTS REPERCUSSIONS FROM HC RULING." Title to editoral from fricken Lanny Davis, "Democrats need to be careful about gloating over HCR ruling!"

But, the reason they and their republican masters are somehow gloating about victory after a major loss is because from day one democrats have acted like absolute pussies about HCR when they SHOULD have been championing it.

Call it Obamacare, and say it is a great thing.

The republicans call it Obama care and say it is communisim, socialism, it kills jobs, it is the biggest problem to the deficit, it is the biggest tax increase in history, it beats baby seals and pet dogs, it spits on grandmothers - they just lie and make up shiite and scream real loud about and then the "liberal media" says, "gee, it is really unpopular ..."

They do this because they know full well democrats are fricken she dogs who are going to hide in a corner and let them do it.

Only way to counter it at this point is to own it and hail it.

Will the Ds do it.

Of course not.

bklyncowgirl

(7,960 posts)
23. Embrace it and explain it--the more people understand it the stronger he'll be.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 07:46 AM
Jul 2012

The Democrats have been shamefully lacking in explaining this program. They need to embrace it and make sure that people know what they'll be losing if the GOP wins.

 

Liberal_Stalwart71

(20,450 posts)
24. I remember a lot of us not liking this, but I now think this is a very smart move.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 07:50 AM
Jul 2012

He has to use the term "Obamacare" because Republicans took it and made it a prejorative. The Corporate Media was complicit in this and now we're stuck with the term. He can't just start calling it the Affordable Care Act because he may risk people becoming confused between that and "Obamacare."

It's the same problem that Obama/the Democrats had with the stimulus bill. It was difficult for people to understand that the stimulus was really called the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA). And when we drove down highways, roads or other construction projects and saw signs that read: "This project was funded by the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act," sadly most people didn't know that the sign referred to the "stimulus bill."

Anyway, the Democrats and Obama must do a better job selling this stuff to the American people.

That's the bottom line!

davidpdx

(22,000 posts)
25. Nicknaming it Obamacare
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 08:38 AM
Jul 2012

Maybe one of the worst backfires in history for the Republican Party. Well maybe not, there's always Iraq.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
26. It's always interesting when insults become compliments, or vice-versa.
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 09:36 AM
Jul 2012

Indicates that somebody lacks "strategic vision".

yellowcanine

(35,701 posts)
28. Republicans may rue the day they dubbed it Obamacare....
Tue Jul 3, 2012, 12:33 PM
Jul 2012

If people like it for the most part they will immediately give Obama a lot of credit. Right now all Obama has to do is remind people about some of the popular aspects of the law......keeping children on parents health care until age 26 - very popular and already in place - and not allowing pre-existing conditions to be a reason to deny coverage-also very popular.

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